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[Talagen]

Well, this has to be one of the worst train wrecks I have seen in a long time.  Terrible part of all this is I can't stop looking.  Hopefully they will lock this soon so I can stop.

[Ceoldoren]

All these arguments on who got less and who got more seem so pointless now. It is what it is guys. straight men did not get slighted by having the same amount as everyone else. And straight women got a few more options, yes. But it's not the end of the world.

[Bellethiel]

Straight women already had more options in DA2.

I understand that you would be content with DLC romance then?

[LiaraShepard]

I understand that you would be content with DLC romance then?

 

as an additional romance? sure, why not? It's not that straight females had less content than others without Sebastian....

[Sporothrix]

I'm sorry but I whole-heartedly disagree. I'm SUPER disappointed that I'm getting less options than straight people again, but I'm not being punished. That's a weird mentality to have about this. One group got extra. That doesn't mean the rest are being 'punished'.

 

I think you should hold your judgment until it becomes known how those advisor romances work in action. Since there are valid reasons to suspect it won't be as good experience as during companion romances.

[jtav]

What really bugs me is the way writers are being treated like Pez dispensers. The goal is to tell a good romance story, not to fill a quota.

[LiaraShepard]

I think you should reserve your judgment until it becomes known how those advisor romances work in action. Since there are valid reasons to suspect it won't be as good experience as during companion romances.

 

to be fair, I don't think the advisors will be as bad as in ME3. Let's wait and see. I think you'll have them from early on, they cannot die till the end, they seem more plot important than some of the companions. But that's just my feeling.

[QueenofFereldan]

The only reason the advisor romance may not seem to have much is because they don't always follow you. But what if you have options to have them tag along from time to time, like in Redcliffe?

[Bellethiel]

as an additional romance? sure, why not? It's not that straight females had less content than others without Sebastian....

But I do not understand why they're pointing him out as obvious advantage since you did not have him unless you paid extra.

[Gannayev of Dreams]

Good time to be a female Elf.  It's raining romance!

[just.somebody2]

You cheeky, Monkey! After I professed my weakness for his puppy eyes and everything!

Spoiler

Have you seen the face he makes if you give him back to Denarius? Hearbreaking... I didn't do it, but I've seen it!




Also, that is true - Being Arishok would change his duty and mentality, though there's only so much that one can do about a Mage that they don't control. Either force it to submit, or kill it - and if you prove your strength I don't think they'll mess with you. A La, Hawke beating Arishok in single combat.

He's a mage, so they should all want to gang up and kill him, but he also beat the Arishok in single combat.



And with LI's wondering about family, I'd love to see what happens. Expanding on the "All that Remains'' ending where your LI meets you at your estate to comfort you (Or Aveline if you went 'Forever Alone' Hawke).

I'm wondering how the individual missions will play out.

Humans being part of the nobility.
Dwarves being former Carta members.
Qunari being Vashoth/Tal'Vashoth.
and Elves being Dalish.

Silly Goose, I love his puppy eyes too!

 

Spoiler

Oh god don't remind me, I looked it up on youtube and I felt like such a douchecanoe just watching it.

 

Yeah probably. I don't wanna duel Sten though.

 

Imagine some variation with Viv coming over to get you off your mopey butt and stay with you a bit, Aw Tru Fwiends.

 

Oh and Qunari are mercenary, dunno if they are part of a band of Tal-Vashoth or other mixed race gang, I guess we'll see.

 

I also wonder how we'll placate a LI if they have a fundementally different view from our PC. If we even can.

[Ray561]

it would have been interesting to see how the response would be if the extra romances were only for straight..

I would still be pissed (seeing as I wanted more bi options) but many many female gamers who are saying to others that they should stay calm would rage

if the extra romances were for straight males I a straight male would agree with them because we are almost always getting more.

[LiaraShepard]

But I do not understand why they're pointing him out as obvious advantage since you did not have him unless you paid extra.

 

well, I would pay extra to have an additional romance...because I really care about romances and I like multiple options.

[TK514]

I am disappointed in Blackwall.  I expected him to be the older, mentor type who wouldn't have been so cruel or irresponsible as to pull a Thane on someone else.

 

Ah well.  I didn't romance anyone in the BG series, I won't miss it here.

[Sporothrix]

But I do not understand why they're pointing him out as obvious advantage since you did not have him unless you paid extra.

 

I don't remember paying anything extra, wasn't that DLC already in the box?

[TK514]

I don't remember paying anything extra, wasn't that DLC already in the box?

 

I certainly got it for free.  Day one, even.

[Pierce Miller]

well, I would pay extra to have an additional romance...because I really care about romances and I like multiple options.

agreed I'd love the additional content.

[Jaison1986]

if the extra romances were for straight males I a straight male would agree with them because we are almost always getting more.

 

Ah, so the mask comes off. So what are you saying is that, so long the straight males get less, all is good, right?

[vutha_ixen]

I'm actually bi but thast not important right now

and I understand your point seeing these extra romances as gifts but sadly not for me and I certainly won't roll

a female character just because of romance

I'm just pissed that they favoured one group with these extra romances there was absoluetly no reason to

maybe as payback for straight gamers who got more in ME 3 but about the gays and lesbians?
Instead of making Solas bi or something like that we get two more options but only for straight females..ughh

Then I hate to say it but you are personally gating the extra content. As Leldra stated they are rewarding mentally flexable people, not a specific gender or race. This has nothing to do with other games. The biggest problem with making Solas bi is they already had his character's backstory. The had undoubetedly either finished or been well into his writing, and likely has some Voice Acting done for him. To change something so fundamental about his character at such a stage would weaken him as a person. That and I believe that someone on the romance pannel at GaymerX said it best when she said "bi isn't a compromise".

[LiaraShepard]

I certainly got it for free.  Day one, even.

 

I think it was part of the pre-order edition.

[nikkylee]

Listen, I am sorry that everyone is upset by their "lack" of options, and I certainly haven't read the entire thread but seriously people... you have the freedom to play other games. I'm a straight women, and I won't even claim to have it as bad as homosexual players because OMG but my options to experience a romantic story in a game are EXTREMELY more limited than a straight man's. You know what? It sucks, just like this game might suck for you but it's not like there are no options at all.

 

I saw a few people mention ME3 so I might be restating a point, but in ME3 when straight females complained about being limited to potentially NO options at all people went on and on about how it's optional content and stop whining and blah blah blah. How is no options there LESS UNFAIR than 2 options here?

 

In the end, you can make the choice to seek out any of the hundreds of other places where you are still big men on top. The very fact that you're so upset by the inequality yet some of the same people are first in line to come shouting at the "feminIsts" or who just write them off completely for bringing up the inequality they see in gaming is quite honestly flabbergasting.

 

I'm sorry you didn't get the options you wanted, I really am, and I am not trying to write off anyone feeling let down but to act like this is some attack from Bioware is silly. Honestly Iron Bull and Blackwall don't appeal to me yet (visually, since we know almost nothing about them) so I'd have been upset had they been my only options as originally planned. That's my problem, not a display of unfairness and personal hate on the part of the devs.  

[Sporothrix]

The only reason the advisor romance may not seem to have much is because they don't always follow you. But what if you have options to have them tag along from time to time, like in Redcliffe?

 

And what if not? Right now we don't know anything, but it's valid to suspect we will only see them in short periods of time between missions, basically long distance relationship, making it automatically a lesser option than romance with companion.