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[feainn]

Gutted about Vivienne! But I'm actually quite happy with the romances, although I wish there were more available romances for the ladies. But beggars can't be choosers!

[Calders]

Saying she's an "unappealing" love interest because she's not conventionally beautiful is sexist, much as it is in the real world when women who aren't "conventionally"beautiful either get shamed for it or treated differently, because they aren't "appealing enough" or "worthy" of anything. It boils people down to just their appearances, which goes for more than just Cass but other reactions to even characters where it's, "I'M SO LET DOWN. I'M STUCK WITH THE UGLY CHICK".

 

Its not about shaming anybody, but we live in the real world and appearance is part of attractiveness (not the only thing that makes people attractive but it is significant).  I don't see how being honest about what you find attractive can ever be considered sexist... its just the way it is.  Maybe in an ideal world everybody is equally attractive but back in the real world what you call 'conventionally attractive' is just a different way of saying 'what most people find attractive'.

[Gileadan]

I agree Cassandra's Romance seems like it will be overly dramatic as you said she shoves her sword at your neck when you first meet her and you will have to work hard to earn her love "By agreeing with her always and not going against her in anything ever".

Who says it's not the other way around and she only likes a guy with a spine who stands up to her when the situation warrants it? Not everyone likes a doormat.

 

We can't know until we get there.

[AlexiaRevan]

 

 but we live in the real world and appearance is part of attractiveness (not the only thing that makes people attractive but it is significant).

That...is actually the issue . Maybe in your real world , apparence is all that matter . But claiming in the real world in GENERAL that is how it is : Is wrong . Because in the real world , EVERYONE has a different taste . Everyone . You may base your taste on how attractive is someone , it doesn't mean it is the real world . It mean YOU have that critera , it is not in the real world .

 

 

 Maybe in an ideal world everybody is equally attractive 

 Again , that is a bad way of voicing it . Because what you can find UGLY for someone else it Is beautiful . If you say everyone will be equaly attractive , that is like saying 'In a perfect world everyone will be white' . Again bad wording there . 

[Acerbus Wings]

Its not about shaming anybody, but we live in the real world and appearance is part of attractiveness (not the only thing that makes people attractive but it is significant).  I don't see how being honest about what you find attractive can ever be considered sexist... its just the way it is.  Maybe in an ideal world everybody is equally attractive but back in the real world what you call 'conventionally attractive' is just a different way of saying 'what most people find attractive'.

 

Again:

 

Being attracted to a certain type of attractiveness = Not sexist

 

Saying, "You aren't conventionally beautiful so you are the unappealing choice"= sexist.

 

Shrugging your shoulders and going, "BUT MOST PEOPLE FIND THIS ATTRACTIVE" is insulting. As I said, you basically imply that anyone who does not fit into that mold is not "worthy", which happens in the "real world" and leads to injustices such as no one stepping up to help the "unattractive" woman being beat up on the subway but instead move in front of the "attractive" woman who is not in immediate harm or when an "unattractive" woman goes to a party and hears derisive comments like, "Ugh, I thought you said you were bringing a girl" or "Maybe if she looks better I'll count her". These are real world, actual events that imply a woman's worth IS her attractiveness.

 

Overall, if all a character needs is an appearance mod to make her to your liking and not the rest of her character, than yes, you are being sexist.

[BobZilla84]

Who says it's not the other way around and she only likes a guy with a spine who stands up to her when the situation warrants it? Not everyone likes a doormat.

 

We can't know until we get there.

I just have a feeling we will be jumping Hurdles to be with Cass and I will at least once to see it then back to Scribbles.

[Gago]

I was really looking forward for a Vivienne romance. I guess I will settle for Josephine.

[ilikesocks]

Yep, wrong thread. Sorry guys, lol.

[AlexiaRevan]

Okay guys, since the release of that gameinformer article, do you think you'll repeat your endgame decision from DA2 and side with the Templars or the mages? I feel like I'm of the minority for siding with the Templars and feeling okay with it. Just curious as to your thoughts, guys!

And just to say, I sided with the mages plenty of times. So don't stone me to death?
Ooh and also, even siding with the Templars as much as I did, I don't know if I'll feel comfortable sentencing a Mage to be tranquil. Unless he did something terrible, like murder my mother and reanimate her dead body along with other women's body parts. XD
(Joking!)

Not stoning but...(throw mushroom) how could ya side with tha Templar ! lol Kidding aside...I plan on siding with the Mages or maybe try and stay neutral . 

[BubbleDncr]

I guess Cullen and Solas being limited in scope, but otherwise being equal confuses me? Is scope just referring to the amount of players they're available to? But their romance still has the same amount of content and depth as the others?

 

Edit: nvm, late to the party, read all gaider's posts about it.

 

Yay!

[The Hierophant]

@ ilikesocks - i think you got the wrong thread?

[Calders]

Shrugging your shoulders and going, "BUT MOST PEOPLE FIND THIS ATTRACTIVE" is insulting. As I said, you basically imply that anyone who does not fit into that mold is not "worthy", which happens in the "real world" and leads to injustices such as no one stepping up to help the "unattractive" woman being beat up on the subway but instead move in front of the "attractive" woman who is not in immediate harm or when an "unattractive" woman goes to a party and hears derisive comments like, "Ugh, I thought you said you were bringing a girl" or "Maybe if she looks better I'll count her". These are real world, actual events that imply a woman's worth IS her attractiveness.

 

Well the less attractive girl at least has a chance that somebody will step in to help her, a man being being beaten up has no chance... and if its a woman attacking him then many will probably think its funny! Anyway we are way off topic now so I guess we will just have to agree to disagree

[shedevil3001]

i'll be siding mages on my first playthrough, but i will be doing a templar side too, then i'll decide which i prefer, so far in dao and da2 i prefered siding mages, though i don't hate the templars, well not all of them anyway, not sure if i will do a neutral run yet 

[VWS Blaze]

Gotta say I'm pretty bummed out that Vivienne isn't romancable, as she seems like the most interesting female character to me personally. Especially with the tally being 4 males to 3 females before this announcement I was sure she'd be the final romance and bring it to a balanced 4 males, 4 females total.

I definitely think Bioware have given those planning to romance male characters some great choices. Cullen, Blackwall, Iron Bull, and Dorian I would pretty much all get down with if I swung that way lol. Not so sure about Solas, but who knows. Either way that's at least 4 sweet options.

For those of us looking to romance females though....ya I'm disappointed. I like Cassandra fine in terms of character (judging by DA2), though I'm not sure why they went out of their way to make her face so incredibly edgy in Inquisition. I mean I actually like me some chicks with a wider jawline but hers is kinda ridiculous now imo. I don't know anything about Josephine's character, but she seems like she'll be kind of a distant character to me. Don't ask me why, I just get that vibe from her. Plus I'd prefer my LI to be a companion so I can have them along. Then we have Sera, who I actually find to be the most attractive of the lot...but what on earth is up with that hair? I mean pardon the stereotype and all but it strikes me as like the most tomboy lesbian type of cut anyone could possibly come up with. Would it have killed them to give her any remotely normal type of hair? Hell I'd prefer if she were bald rather than what she's got now.

Anyway, thanks for letting us know all the romances. At least I know not to waste my time trying to get into certain characters pants now lol. Still think the overall assortment of character types is great

[Acerbus Wings]

Well the less attractive girl at least has a chance that somebody will step in to help her, a man being being beaten up has no chance... and if its a woman attacking him then many will probably think its funny! Anyway we are way off topic now so I guess we will just have to agree to disagree

 

I'll end it on this last note:

 

The "unattrative" girl still got beat up and had to carry herself home. No one helped her at all,during the beating and after. That actually happened. To say, "WELL OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE SUFFERED THE SAME" derails from her experience and the fact it is still a real issue.

 

I would argue that it is not off topic since it relates to the wider problem of reactions such as, "Cass is an unappealing romance because she isn't conventionally attractive"and "maybe if she gets a mod to make her better I'll go for her" (which are similar to comments real-life women hear) but topic can rest at that.

[Urazz]

Okay guys, since the release of that gameinformer article, do you think you'll repeat your endgame decision from DA2 and side with the Templars or the mages? I feel like I'm of the minority for siding with the Templars and feeling okay with it. Just curious as to your thoughts, guys!

And just to say, I sided with the mages plenty of times. So don't stone me to death?
Ooh and also, even siding with the Templars as much as I did, I don't know if I'll feel comfortable sentencing a Mage to be tranquil. Unless he did something terrible, like murder my mother and reanimate her dead body along with other women's body parts. XD
(Joking!)

I could have easily sided with the Templars if Meredith actually had a good reason to call for the Right of Annulment and didn't go crazy.  it wasn't a mage of the Circle that destroyed the Chantry but an apostate who was right there for Meredith to capture and give everyone a sense that justice was fulfilled.

 

I actually help both the Templars and the Mages but I just felt that you can't reasonably side with the Templars with Hawke's background/family.

[Asdrubael Vect]

Yeah this is the worst companions and romance options in DA series, and all stuff about realistic and equality is a total crap like as we are not related to the Orlais Chantry..if people would know about this mounths ago they can do petition and now our only hope is for story DLC  when we as i hope would have new companions

 

if females have mostly all exept dwarf Li, for all who would play as males non-humans, mages Inquisitors this is a slap on their faces...they do not have romaces and companions who are not pro Orlais, Orlais Chantry, Templars or some exiled criminals...even mage as Vivienne who as we know is not a romance option is a loyalist pro Oralis empire and pro Chatry Circle

 

most of our party is pro Oralis/Chantry and Tempalars and devs even make Lelianna her old girlfriend Josephine and butcher Cullen with Cassandra more valuable in our Inquisition and not replaceble/executable as all others no matter what...those advisors is a bullshit and they put bastards to be our generals...putting Lelianna and Cullen was a very, very bad solution for many reasons, more bad if they allow us to romance companions of previous heroes like Morrigan, Merril and others

 

many do not like that despite that we have 2 kingdoms and many factions who we must choose most of our companions from those faction who are emenies of many players or some who are not connected to anything...we do not have any companion, advisors and romances who represent dalish, Orzammar/Kal-Sharok dwarves, "barbarians", rebelion mages, Nevarrans, Tevinters(not some criminal exile with shame like Dorian who is noone and represent a betrayal of Venatory fanatics-old gods worshipers), Tal Vashots(Bull is just another Qunari spy)...those chars who represent them was put on a sh*t multiplayer

 

DAO-Da2 was much, much better in this things..all of our companions and li's was different,  was a representation of some group and have their own desires

 

DAI is the first game of Bioware then many want to get rid and even execute of mostly all companions and especially advisors what we have and cantrid of them no matter what we would do and how we feel about them.

 

Companions and Li's of DAI does not equal in terms of genders, races and representation of faction/alliances

[AresKeith]

Yeah this is the worst companions and romance options in DA series, and all stuff about realistic and equality is a total crap like as we are not related to the Orlais Chantry..if people would know about this mounths ago they can do petition and now our only hope is for story DLC  when we as i hope would have new companions

 

 

And you honestly think that would work?

[Asdrubael Vect]

And you honestly think that would work?

as you see they add races and have +1 year to develop somethink

 

they add Bull for anyone and add Cullen and Solas

[AresKeith]

as you see they add races and have +1 year to develop somethink

 

they add Bull for anyone and add Cullen and Solas

 

They added races because fans wanted them, true. Part of thinks Bioware wanted it also

 

But they added Cullen and Solas because they wanted to, so a petition would fail

 

 

DAI is the first game of Bioware then many want to get rid and even execute of mostly all companions and especially advisors what we have and cantrid of them no matter what we would do and how we feel about them.

 

And you don't speak for the many

[Pierce Miller]

They added races because fans wanted them, true. Part of thinks Bioware wanted it also

 

But they added Cullen and Solas because they wanted to, so a petition would fail

 

 

 

And you don't speak for the many

I still don't understand why Cullen is in DAI, Hope there's a good explanation. Seems very odd to me.

[theflyingzamboni]

Yeah this is the worst companions and romance options in DA series, and all stuff about realistic and equality is a total crap like as we are not related to the Orlais Chantry..if people would know about this mounths ago they can do petition and now our only hope is for story DLC  when we as i hope would have new companions

Fortunately for you they said a long time ago that they were absolutely not adding new companions as DLC. The companions released with the base games are it, so I guess you won't be losing out on anything.

[AresKeith]

I still don't understand why Cullen is in DAI, Hope there's a good explanation. Seems very odd to me.

 

There's already an explanation on his character bio on why he got recruited 

[Asdrubael Vect]

They added races because fans wanted them, true. Part of thinks Bioware wanted it also

 

But they added Cullen because they wanted to, so a petition would fail

 

 

 

And you don't speak for the many

1)yeah and many fangirls does not have any effect  ...of course we know that Cullen as lelianna is Gaider favorite characters

 

2)for thousands at least who does not like this and whote on officional fan sites of DA in my country, i can...many is not a entire world offcourse but still it is oficional that majority does not like Orlais and Templars

[Pierce Miller]

There's already an explanation on his character bio on why he got recruited 

I know, Still seems odd. I hope his character has changed a lot over the years.