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[Pierce Miller]

It seems they die just the same as a NORMAL person though when they bleed enough though.

They could easily use that blood to make sure their attacker never did it again.

[Master Warder Z_]

They could easily use that blood to make sure their attacker never did it again.

 

Funny man.

 

A yard of Steel in the heart kills a mage just the same as a normal person.

[BloodKaiden]

What evidence can you present that Templars are more likely to abuse their power than ordinary guards?

Umm, Kirkwall?

[Pierce Miller]

Funny man.

 

A yard of Steel in the heart kills a mage just the same as a normal person.

I'd rather that than being roasted alive in a metal suit. One is easier to avoid.

[Master Warder Z_]

Umm, Kirkwall?

 

Which the Devs have cited more times then you have posts, that that was an extreme for both factions.

[Master Warder Z_]

I'd rather that than being roasted alive in a metal suit. One is easier to avoid.

 

Right, tell that the circles that have been annulled.

 

I'd say the Templars know what they are doing when it comes to killing mages.

[Medhia_Nox]

Some people really have a distorted view of DA mages.

 

I don't believe the fiction has supported the types of mages being proposed in this thread at all.

 

Mages are mentally unstable (they hear voices and occasionally their bodies get invaded by alien personalities) people with talents that - as presented in the DA:O mage origin with the mage who lights himself on fire - are as dangerous to themselves as they are to others.

 

I have seen only a tiny handful of mages who I would deem "superior" and it had nothing to do with their magic and everything to do with their personalities (which any man can possess).

 

And blood mages are filth who can't do real magic - so that hardly counts.

[Pierce Miller]

Right, tell that the circles that have been annulled.

 

I'd say the Templars know what they are doing when it comes to killing mages.

Blood magic can't be countered by the Templars, Prepare to see a lot more of it in DAI.

[TK514]

The recent article on Skyhold would suggest the resolution to the Mage/Templar issue is 'either' rather than 'both'.

[Pierce Miller]

Some people really have a distorted view of DA mages.

 

I don't believe the fiction has supported the types of mages being proposed in this thread at all.

 

Mages are mentally unstable (they hear voices and occasionally their bodies get invaded by alien personalities) people with talents that - as presented in the DA:O mage origin with the mage who lights himself on fire - are as dangerous to themselves as they are to others.

 

I have seen only a tiny handful of mages who I would deem "superior" and it had nothing to do with their magic and everything to do with their personalities (which any man can possess).

 

And blood mages are filth who can't do real magic - so that hardly counts.

Blood magic is in many cases a superior version of the original thing, The chantry fears it for a reason.

[Hellion Rex]

The recent article on Skyhold would suggest the resolution to the Mage/Templar issue is 'either' rather than 'both'.

Yup, sounds very much like one or the other, and you do it early in the game to boot.

[TTTX]

I hope there is an option for peace.

 

But we probably going have to work at it.

[BloodKaiden]

well if there really isn't a peace option I'm with the templars
the safety of Thedas is more important than their freedom
(I'm still hoping for peace and its not a cop out if the player has made the right choices there should be something rewarding at the end not
some depressing Kirkwall- like scenario where everyone goes crazy

Yeah except now mages are not really the problem in Thedas anymore. Demons are the main threat and should be the main focus much like the Darkspawn were doing the Blight. Why this war between T and M is even such a big deal is beyond me. At least at this time with the Breach.

[MisterJB]

Superior as a being. Mages are to humans what humans are to monkeys.

First, you must determine what exactly makes one superior to even determine who is so.

The difference between man and monkeys is that of intelligence. If our intelligence makes us superior to them; by your logic, altough, if I wanted, I could argue that superiority is subjective; then the intellignece of mages is in no way superior to that of humans. In fact, one could argue that the need to adapt and survive without the tool that is magic would make normal humans more intelligent.

But you claim that magic is what makes one superior. If we accept that, then it is the natural ability to kill that makes one superior? In that case, many animals would be our superiors for they can kill us without the need for tools.

 

Then, it is the added characteristic of magic that makes one superior? Mages are just like humans but then you add something fantastic and bam, they're superior?

What about mages who lack intelligence or assertiveness when compared to humans who have? Are they still superior? Does magic trump every other characteristic in the superiority meter?

 

Is it then the ability to affect our surroundings that makes us superior? Humans have built civilization whereas monkeys cannot. Thus we are superior.

But then, what of normal humans like Emperor Drakon or Calenhad who built empire and kingdoms when compared to mages who didn't? Are they not superior then?

 

Or perhaps it is simply the dominant lifeform that is superior? Humans rule the planet thus, we are superior.

But normal humans rule most of Thedas. Thus, are they not the superior ones?

[AresKeith]

Yup, sounds very much like one or the other, and you do it early in the game to boot.

 

*Game starts off with a peace summit, can't make peace after* Booooooo

 

Unless we can and have to choice only one faction 

[DeityDi]

Yup, sounds very much like one or the other, and you do it early in the game to boot.

I've missed something again. What is that you're both talking about?

[AresKeith]

Blood magic is in many cases a superior version of the original thing, The chantry fears it for a reason.

 

Except it really isn't

[Master Warder Z_]

Seriously, i will say it again.

 

The Pro Templar folks need to get together and go bass fishing!

[Pierce Miller]

First, you must determine what exactly makes one superior to even determine who is so.

The difference between man and monkeys is that of intelligence. If our intelligence makes us superior to them; by your logic, altough, if I wanted, I could argue that superiority is subjective; then the intellignece of mages is in no way superior to that of humans. In fact, one could argue that the need to adapt and survive without the tool that is magic would make normal humans more intelligent.

But you claim that magic is what makes one superior. If we accept that, then it is the natural ability to kill that makes one superior? In that case, many animals would be our superiors for they can kill us without the need for tools.

 

Then, it is the added characteristic of magic that makes one superior? Mages are just like humans but then you add something fantastic and bam, they're superior?

What about mages who lack intelligence or assertiveness when compared to humans who have? Are they still superior? Does magic trump every other characteristic in the superiority meter?

 

Is it then the ability to affect our surroundings that makes us superior? Humans have built civilization whereas monkeys cannot. Thus we are superior.

But then, what of normal humans like Emperor Drakon or Calenhad who built empire and kingdoms when compared to mages who didn't? Are they not superior then?

 

Or perhaps it is simply the dominant lifeform that is superior? Humans rule the planet thus, we are superior.

But normal humans rule most of Thedas. Thus, are they not the superior ones?

Physically and mentally humans and mages are the same except for the fact that mages possess magic, that added plus is what makes them superior to humans.

[Medhia_Nox]

If there's no option for both, I truly hope there's an option for neither.
 

[Pierce Miller]

Except it really isn't

I'd rather the ability to control minds over any other spell, You could get a lot done with it.

[Patchwork]

The recent article on Skyhold would suggest the resolution to the Mage/Templar issue is 'either' rather than 'both'.

 

It could be like the elves verses werewolf scenario in DAO, there's a peaceful resolution but only one side joins your forces. 

[Puppy Love]

I think both sides are pucktards and as head of the inquisition I'd like to reserve the right to pull the rational minded people from  both sides into my orginizations and annihilate all the extreme sociopaths from both sides...  won't happen though...  will have to "support" one side or the other, and that's just stupid.

[Pierce Miller]

It could be like the elves verses werewolf scenario in DAO, there's a peaceful resolution but only one side joins your forces. 

Peaceful resolution? I doubt it 

[Master Warder Z_]

Physically and mentally humans and mages are the same except for the fact that mages possess magic, that added plus is what makes them superior to humans.

 

You basically ignored the point where JB called into question the ability of the individual mage to even control their magic though.

 

The fact they can melt themselves with a fire spell sort of sours you huh?

 

Better to just ignore that can happen