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Firstly I'm new to these forums, Hi! 

 

Secondly, I'm very confused with all the Paragon and Renegade options. I try to be the good guy wherever possible so I guess I want to be a Paragon, I Have seen many "Best ending" videos on Youtube and they all say you need to Kill the reapers, I tried this and it didn't turn out well. The world burnt and nearly every Character in the game that I cared about died, so I then looking into why I didn't survive and also why the world burnt and my friends and I presume my romance also died, (Samantha Traynor) and the pages and forums that I found said stuff about "Effective Military strength" and Paragon and Renegade Points.

 

I have no idea what they were on about so I thought that I'd come here.

 

Also I kinda want to play the same kinda story line as before (as in having Traynor as the romance and being the good guy, so if it is not possible for me to get these apparent "best endings" then I understand)

 

Thanks in advance for any help given!

 

PS I'm late to this game and franchise because I never saw interest in it until I played Dead space and found you could get another Rig buy playing Mass effect 3 so I went out and got it, I started to play it and I like it a lot, So now I want to complete it to the "Best Possible way" 



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You get military assets by completing various objectives in the game. Major quests give large assets while minor ones - small. You should scan planets to gather more assets, complete the side quests on CItadel, when you overhear conversations. All those assets add to your Effective Military Strength. After a certain number you will be able to get the "Best Ending".

Multiplayer also contributes to the EMS score. I didn't try to do it with ME3-only character but with imported characters you can get the needed EMS without ever playing multiplayer.

More information on EMS here: Link


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Hi, and welcome to Forums, @TheGearinator!

 

There is such a thing called Paragade(mixing between Paragon & Rengade), true Paragon(Full on Paragon), and true Reneagde(Full on Renegade). On a first playthrough, I would suggest that you keep on the path of your alignment: Paragon(Upper right dialogue most of the time). Select Charm options when they're available as they are Paragon options as well, but their text will be in blue on the Upper left corner.

 

Make sure you download the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut DLC. It will add in new scenes for Priority: Earth, and it will greatly lessen the amount of Effective Military Strength(EMS) required to achieve all possible endings. At default, you Galactic Readiness(GR) will be at 50%. Your GR times your Total Military Strength(TMS) will equal your EMS. Your EMS is what counts the most. EMS of 3,100 is ensured to give you all possible endings with the Extended Cut DLC installed.

 

To actually get your EMS higher, make sure to complete every side mission, every side quest, and if you have DLCs, do them as well to gain even more EMS. Making peace between the quarians and the geth will greatly help you EMS. To increase your Galactic Readiness, you must increase each percentage value of the sections of the Galaxy at War. To do this, play Multiplayer matches to increase each section of the galaxy above 50%. 100% is the max value, and once you get the hang of Multiplayer, you can keep it at a high percentage constantly. By raising your GR, you raise your EMS closer to match your Total Military Strength. Once your EMS matches the value of your TMS, that means your Galactic Readiness is at 100%.


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Is this the ending you got?

https://www.youtube....h?v=pe_UgzvRclk

 

TMS - Total Military Stength

GR - Galactic Readiness. Will always be at 50% unless you play multiplayer

EMS - Effective Military Strength.

If you ems says 1000, you have 2000 TMS

 

To get the best ending(breath scene) you need to have at least 3100 ems(6200 tms). Of course you need to have the extended cut dlc installed. I believe you can still download it for free. This can be done with dlc, if you have them, a save import from ME2 and through multiplayer if you choose.

 

If you do a default ME3 playthrough without dlc and multiplayer you can still get the breath scene by gathering all possible assets and by "saving" Anderson

Spoiler

 

If your ems is below 1750 and you chose to destroy the Collector base in ME2, destroy will be the only ending you get. The doors to the Normandy will not open

 

If your ems is below 1750 and saved the Collector base in ME2, control will be the only ending available. The crew will live, but stuck on the planet repairing the Normandy

 

The Collector base is assumed to be destroyed for an ME3 default playthrough

 

If your ems is above 1750, control and destroy are the only options available

 

If you ems is above 2800, synthesis, control amd destroy wil be available

 

As I mentioned above, Shepard will live if your ems is above 3100 and you choose destroy

 

Here's a chart with all assets that can be gathered

 

Since you are romancing Samantha, a very good choice, click the link in my signature under Samantha Traynor fan group for some helpful tips in romancing her


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You get military assets by completing various objectives in the game. Major quests give large assets while minor ones - small. You should scan planets to gather more assets, complete the side quests on CItadel, when you overhear conversations. All those assets add to your Effective Military Strength. After a certain number you will be able to get the "Best Ending".

Multiplayer also contributes to the EMS score. I didn't try to do it with ME3-only character but with imported characters you can get the needed EMS without ever playing multiplayer.

More information on EMS here: Link

 

 

Hi, and welcome to Forums, @TheGearinator!

 

There is such a thing called Paragade(mixing between Paragon & Rengade), true Paragon(Full on Paragon), and true Reneagde(Full on Renegade). On a first playthrough, I would suggest that you keep on the path of your alignment: Paragon(Upper right dialogue most of the time). Select Charm options when they're available as they are Paragon options as well, but their text will be in blue on the Upper left corner.

 

Make sure you download the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut DLC. It will add in new scenes for Priority: Earth, and it will greatly lessen the amount of Effective Military Strength(EMS) required to achieve all possible endings. At default, you Galactic Readiness(GR) will be at 50%. Your GR times your Total Military Strength(TMS) will equal your EMS. Your EMS is what counts the most. EMS of 3,100 is ensured to give you all possible endings with the Extended Cut DLC installed.

 

To actually get your EMS higher, make sure to complete every side mission, every side quest, and if you have DLCs, do them as well to gain even more EMS. Making peace between the quarians and the geth will greatly help you EMS. To increase your Galactic Readiness, you must increase each percentage value of the sections of the Galaxy at War. To do this, play Multiplayer matches to increase each section of the galaxy above 50%. 100% is the max value, and once you get the hang of Multiplayer, you can keep it at a high percentage constantly. By raising your GR, you raise your EMS closer to match your Total Military Strength. Once your EMS matches the value of your TMS, that means your Galactic Readiness is at 100%.

 

 

Is this the ending you got?

https://www.youtube....h?v=pe_UgzvRclk

 

TMS - Total Military Stength

GR - Galactic Readiness. Will always be at 50% unless you play multiplayer

EMS - Effective Military Strength.

If you ems says 1000, you have 2000 TMS

 

To get the best ending(breath scene) you need to have at least 3100 ems(6200 tms). Of course you need to have the extended cut dlc installed. I believe you can still download it for free. This can be done with dlc, if you have them, a save import from ME2 and through multiplayer if you choose.

 

If you do a default ME3 playthrough without dlc and multiplayer you can still get the breath scene by gathering all possible assets and by "saving" Anderson

Spoiler

 

If your ems is below 1750 and you chose to destroy the Collector base in ME2, destroy will be the only ending you get. The doors to the Normandy will not open

 

If your ems is below 1750 and saved the Collector base in ME2, control will be the only ending available. The crew will live, but stuck on the planet repairing the Normandy

 

The Collector base is assumed to be destroyed for an ME3 default playthrough

 

If your ems is above 1750, control and destroy are the only options available

 

If you ems is above 2800, synthesis, control amd destroy wil be available

 

As I mentioned above, Shepard will live if your ems is above 3100 and you choose destroy

 

Here's a chart with all assets that can be gathered

 

Since you are romancing Samantha, a very good choice, click the link in my signature under Samantha Traynor fan group for some helpful tips in romancing her

 

 

Well thanks everyone with the help and answers given.

 

But just to clear things up I need an EMS of 3100 to survive (with Extended cut) and to raise that I need to do the main quests and seen as I can't find a match on multilayer to raise the GR I have to do all side quests to get this level of EMS?

 

And because I'm playing a Paragon character does this mean that I will need more or less EMS to do the Renegade ending which is also the best ending, Apparently. or is the Paragon and Renegade not related to the ending?



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Well thanks everyone with the help and answers given.

 

But just to clear things up I need an EMS of 3100 to survive (with Extended cut) and to raise that I need to do the main quests and seen as I can't find a match on multilayer to raise the GR I have to do all side quests to get this level of EMS?

 

And because I'm playing a Paragon character does this mean that I will need more or less EMS to do the Renegade ending which is also the best ending, Apparently. or is the Paragon and Renegade not related to the ending?

Make sure you have all of the Multiplayer DLCs installed to actually get a match. You won't find anyone if you are one DLC short. The Multiplayer DLCs are Free, and so, it's a no-brainer. You can reach EMS of 3,100 without Multiplayer, but it will mean you will have to do more work in Single Player.


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Well thanks everyone with the help and answers given.

 

But just to clear things up I need an EMS of 3100 to survive (with Extended cut) and to raise that I need to do the main quests and seen as I can't find a match on multilayer to raise the GR I have to do all side quests to get this level of EMS?

 

And because I'm playing a Paragon character does this mean that I will need more or less EMS to do the Renegade ending which is also the best ending, Apparently. or is the Paragon and Renegade not related to the ending?

 

Your alignment (Paragon, Renegade, or anything in-between) has no impact on your choice of ending.  That is based solely on your EMS and Collector Base decision at low EMS (If you did not import, the game will assume the base was destroyed, thus making destroy the easiest ending to get).  If you do most of the side missions, it is fairly easy to get all ending options, and playing a few rounds of multiplayer will almost guarantee them.  However, be warned, I believe the multiplayer bonus no longer can be increased once you have started the "Cronos Station" mission.

 

Also welcome to Mass Effect  :)



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If you ever promote at least once in Multiplayer, you will permanently gain the N7 Spec Ops asset. This asset will accumulate as you promote. I believe at first promotion, it is only 50 points of EMS. Mine is currently 3,075 'cause of some self-forced promotion. ;(

 

EDIT: Fixed to "Multiplayer." DERRRR



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Make sure you have all of the Multiplayer DLCs installed to actually get a match. You won't find anyone if you are one DLC short. The Multiplayer DLCs are Free, and so, it's a no-brainer. You can reach EMS of 3,100 without Multiplayer, but it will mean you will have to do more work in Single Player.

 

Ok thanks, I didn't realise I needed them I just  thought they were optional.



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Your alignment (Paragon, Renegade, or anything in-between) has no impact on your choice of ending.  That is based solely on your EMS and Collector Base decision at low EMS (If you did not import, the game will assume the base was destroyed, thus making destroy the easiest ending to get).  If you do most of the side missions, it is fairly easy to get all ending options, and playing a few rounds of multiplayer will almost guarantee them.  However, be warned, I believe the multiplayer bonus no longer can be increased once you have started the "Cronos Station" mission.

 

Also welcome to Mass Effect  :)

 

Well thanks for clearing that one up but in doing so you opened another, what is the point in Paragon and Renegade points if they don't do anything? or do they do something that I don't know about?



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Renegade and paragon have no role in the ending. You choose the one that fits your character the best.



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Eh it's not necessary to play multi player to get enough assets, and it's not particularly difficult to do.
Are you doing an me1>2>3 import?
And I assume you are playing femshep and not impostershep if you are romancing traynor.
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Well thanks for clearing that one up but in doing so you opened another, what is the point in Paragon and Renegade points if they don't do anything? or do they do something that I don't know about?


Reputation points are more important in me3.

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If you ever promote at least once in Multiplayer, you will permanently gain the N7 Spec Ops asset. This asset will accumulate as you promote. I believe at first promotion, it is only 50 points of EMS. Mine is currently 3,075 'cause of some self-forced promotion. ;(

 

EDIT: Fixed to "Multiplayer." DERRRR

 

So if I manage to get "promoted" in multilayer I get more war assets as well as GR?

 

I put it in "" because I have no idea what it means I presume its similar to ranking up in COD for example?



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Eh it's not necessary to play multi player to get enough assets, and it's not particularly difficult to do.
Are you doing an me1>2>3 import?
And I assume you are playing femshep and not impostershep if you are romancing traynor.

 

I have never played any mass effect game before this one, i had no interest in the series before Dead Space 3 so I only got ME3 (probably a mistake to not played the previous ones by the looks of things) does it make much of an impact? 

 

and what is "Impostershep"?



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The only time paragon or renegade actually mean anything is getting peace between the Geth and Quarians(only with an import this can be done). Renegade or paragon has to be at least 4 bars full with high reputation which can be obtained throughout the game, if you do everything.



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I have never played any mass effect game before this one, i had no interest in the series before Dead Space 3 so I only got ME3 (probably a mistake to not played the previous ones by the looks of things) does it make much of an impact?

and what is "Impostershep"?


I highly recommend you stop playing and go start from me1 and take that character all the way through (femshep obviously).

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I have never played any mass effect game before this one, i had no interest in the series before Dead Space 3 so I only got ME3 (probably a mistake to not played the previous ones by the looks of things) does it make much of an impact? 

 

and what is "Impostershep"?

Since you're doing an ME3 default playthrough, you don't need multiplayer or any dlc. Just need the extended cut. Gather as many war assets as possible and have TIM either kill himself or you kill him via renegade interrupt "saving" Anderson. I did this back in Oct 5 2012 on my only pc playthrough and my ems was at 2930 and still got the best ending.  Look at the spoiler I put in my earlier post and you will know why I got the best ending.



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I highly recommend you stop playing and go start from me1 and take that character all the way through (femshep obviously).

 

Well then, I have to get some money first, but if it really makes that much of an impact what kinda scrub am I to argue with someone who is clearly much better and well informed than my self, I shall save some money and get the other two games as well then. 

Thanks!



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Playing through all 3 will increase your attachment to the world bioware created and the characters (which is why this forum is still active 2 years later I think).
I'd say it's like no other game I have played in that respect.
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Since you're doing an ME3 default playthrough, you don't need multiplayer or any dlc. Just need the extended cut. Gather as many war assets as possible and have TIM either kill himself or you kill him via renegade interrupt "saving" Anderson. I did this back in Oct 5 2012 on my only pc playthrough and my ems was at 2930 and still got the best ending.  Look at the spoiler I put in my earlier post and you will know why I got the best ending.

 

how do you get TIM to kill him self? I think I shot him last time I played through, but Anderson also survived. or is killing him yourself "saving Anderson"?



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Playing through all 3 will increase your attachment to the world bioware created and the characters (which is why this forum is still active 2 years later I think).
I'd say it's like no other game I have played in that respect.

 

Hell I don't need much more connection with the characters in ME3 I almost cried at the end when I evidently messed up and everyone died and I felt like I failed everyone. But I love good stories and further connection with characters so I shall eventually go back and play the others. 

 

Thanks!



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how do you get TIM to kill him self? I think I shot him last time I played through, but Anderson also survived. or is killing him yourself "saving Anderson"?

When you talk with him on Mars, Thessia, Chronos and on the Citadel, always take the left dialogue option(investigate) which opens up more dialogue. If your playing as a paragon always choose the upper left dialogue(blue). Doing that will have him kill himself. If playing as a renegade, choose the bottom left dialogue,(red) but instead of him killing himself, you, the player, will get an renegade interrupt to shoot him.

 

Killing TIM or having TIM kill himself is "saving" Anderson. He will eventually die because of his wound.



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I assume you have never met wrex?

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I assume you have never met wrex?

Nope