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[Ryzaki]

$60 once > $1000 a week per class. 

 

*cackles*

[Ravensword]

I think it's safe to say that Merrill is a lot happier w/ Hawke than w/ her clan who have either packed up and left or are food for the carrion birds. Let's not forget that her quality of life is much better w/ Hawke than w/ the Dalish.

[Swoopdogg]

Since the Dalish are isolationist, I imagine the inquisitor will not be allowed to return and live among his people, especially after the entirety of the campaign. Think of it like a situation similar to what happened to Ashitaka in Princess Mononoke. He knows he will never be able to return, but he also knows he has to leave. The Dalish Inquisitor knows he needs to leave to set things right, but that by doing so will mean he can never again live among his people. Even if he was well-loved by his clan, the Dalish have strict rules for their culture.

 

I imagine making the sacrifice to be with either Josephine or Cassandra will be a bit easier at that point. Tragically easier, maybe, but still easier.

[Eveangaline]

Since the Dalish are isolationist, I imagine the inquisitor will not be allowed to return and live among his people, especially after the entirety of the campaign. Think of it like a situation similar to what happened to Ashitaka in Princess Mononoke. He knows he will never be able to return, but he also knows he has to leave. The Dalish Inquisitor knows he needs to leave to set things right, but that by doing so will mean he can never again live among his people. Even if he was well-loved by his clan, the Dalish have strict rules for their culture.

 

I imagine making the sacrifice to be with either Josephine or Cassandra will be a bit easier at that point. Tragically easier, maybe, but still easier.

 

Feynriels mom was allowed to come back just fine after having a human kid and living in a human city for decades.

[DeityDi]

I wouldn't say "just fine". The part of that "just fine" was because the Keeper owed Hawke, and the part of it was because her son is a mage and the clan needed a new First.

[Swoopdogg]

Feynriels mom was allowed to come back just fine after having a human kid and living in a human city for decades.

do not try to ruin my Princess Mononoke comparison

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I wouldn't say "just fine". The part of that "just fine" was because the Keeper owed Hawke, and the part of it was because her son is a mage and the clan needed a new First.

 

I'm pretty sure neither of those things are true. The debt between the Keeper and Hawke was even when when Merrill went back to Kirkwall and Feynriel was never going to be Keeper. 

[Br3admax]

I wouldn't say "just fine". The part of that "just fine" was because the Keeper owed Hawke, and the part of it was because her son is a mage and the clan needed a new First.

She left because of the way they would treat her son, not her. 

[Swoopdogg]

The difference between Feynriel's mom and the Elven Inquisitor is that the Elven Inquisitor is getting involved in human politics and major global affairs. Feynriel's mom pretty much just stayed in the alienage (I mean I know she had a half-human son, but it still pales in comparison. If "human interaction" has some kind of score count)

[Icy Magebane]

do not try to ruin my Princess Mononoke comparison

lol...

 

I guess I shouldn't bring up the fact that the Inquisitor only left on a temporary misson, but wound up in a totally unforeseen situation that s/he may or may not even wish to be a part of... 

 

I also don't see the Inquisitor remaining with the group as mandatory, although it probably will be for the sake of the story.  I could easily imagine a Dalish no longer caring what happened to the Inquisition after the Fade Crisis is resolved... I mean, why would they want to remain surrounded by humans longer than necessary?  Why would they care about the ultimate fate of this group if the only reason they were working with them was to save the world?  Even if we aren't allowed to do it, I can see why a Dalish would want to return home.  I also don't see anything stopping them from doing so... I mean, why would the clan care if you left for a while and came back?  So long as you don't bring a shemlen baby mama along, that is...

[DeityDi]

She left because of the way they would treat her son, not her. 

If if wasn't for her, there would be no elf-blooded son to begin with. They would've treat him worse than her, but that doesn't mean she's welcome either.

Also, she left because she was stupid enough to fell in love with human. And from that moment she had no choice.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The Dalish inquisitor will likely get trouble without dating anyone, i wouldn't be surprised if their clan see's them as a traitor, ie: was sent to spy on the humans but joined them instead

 

You really think they are going to be somehow oblivious to a mitigating circumstance like a giant hole in the sky with demons swarming out? Even crazies like Veleanna understood the circumstances that would necessitate working with humans.

[Willowhugger]

You really think they are going to be somehow oblivious to a mitigating circumstance like a giant hole in the sky with demons swarming out? Even crazies like Veleanna understood the circumstances that would necessitate working with humans.

 

Velanna was like the worst Grey Warden ever.

Well, no, because Sophia Dryden.

 

But I don't know what my Warden was thinking recruiting her.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

You really think they are going to be somehow oblivious to a mitigating circumstance like a giant hole in the sky with demons swarming out? Even crazies like Veleanna understood the circumstances that would necessitate working with humans.

Id say it would depend on the clan, some more anti-human Dalish would probably rejoice at the the thought of humans getting killed by demons & would see the Dalish inquisitor as a traitor for trying to save them

[Lady Shayna]

My Dalish rogue, Aralan, is definitely not looking for love, especially not with shemlen.  If either Cassandra or Josephine can break through his armor, I will take my hat off to them, but I will try not to make a decision before I play the game.  As for returning to the Dalish, he secretly harbors thoughts of giving his people a homeland or city where they can settle and try to rebuild their ancient knowledge, and he'll give up return to his clan and even the approval of most Dalish to attempt that dream with some like-minded Dalish and city elves that may be willing to try.

 

Otherwise, I'll play it by ear.

[Willowhugger]

Id say it would depend on the clan, some more anti-human Dalish would probably rejoice at the the thought of humans getting killed by demons & would see the Dalish inquisitor as a traitor for trying to save them

I admit, I have the suspicion the Dalish probably have a standing policy to at least give a token help to anti-End of the WorldTM events by humans.

The last time they didn't, it didn't work out for them.

[Icy Magebane]

Id say it would depend on the clan, some more anti-human Dalish would probably rejoice at the the thought of humans getting killed by demons & would see the Dalish inquisitor as a traitor for trying to save them

The demons are also attacking Dalish clans...  I have a hard time believing that even the most racist Dalish clans are that short sighted.

[Br3admax]

If if wasn't for her, there would be no elf-blooded son to begin with. They would've treat him worse than her, but that doesn't mean she's welcome either.

Also, she left because she was stupid enough to fell in love with human. And from that moment she had no choice.

Except the Keeper said she didn't really have to leave, and she agreed. 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Id say it would depend on the clan, some more anti-human Dalish would probably rejoice at the the thought of humans getting killed by demons & would see the Dalish inquisitor as a traitor for trying to save them

 

But demons also kills elves. Even the most militant Anti-human Dalish would prefer to survive even if humans do to.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

The demons are also attacking Dalish clans...  I have a hard time believing that even the most racist Dalish clans are that short sighted.

Im not so sure, they were willing to wait out the blight at 1 time even though it would have destroyed them eventually so i could see a extremely anti-human Dalish clan not caring to help their supposed main enemy even if it leads to their own destruction in the end. Especially if they don't realise how dangerous the demon threat is.

[TheJediSaint]

Velanna was like the worst Grey Warden ever.

Well, no, because Sophia Dryden.

 

But I don't know what my Warden was thinking recruiting her.

Vengeful Dalish mages can make good weapons, so long as you keep them aimed at Darkspawn.

[Willowhugger]

Vengeful Dalish mages can make good weapons, so long as you keep them aimed at Darkspawn.

I lament the lack of a dialogue option. "You're like Morrigan, except somehow even less likable."

[LobselVith8]

The Dalish inquisitor will likely get trouble without dating anyone, i wouldn't be surprised if their clan see's them as a traitor, ie: was sent to spy on the humans but joined them instead

 

I don't think the Dalish will spurn the elven Inquisitor for becoming a leader of the Inquisitor, particularly given the circumstances of the Breach, and how the crisis with the veil tears threats all of them; we have at least one other Dalish who joins the Inquisition because she wants to make certain the organization doesn't overlook the needs of the People (and it's possible more Dalish characters will be created after Inquisition is created). Her name is Neira; she serves as the First of her clan.

 

 

According to her profile, "Neria was born into the Ralaferin clan, and was chosen as Keeper Elindra's apprentice. Trained from youth to defend and serve people, she takes great pride in her magic and her role as Elindra's First. Now within the Inquisition as a Dalish emissary, Neria does all she can to see that the interests of the Dalish are not forgotten amidst the chaos."

[Kimarous]

I have a hard time getting into a specifically "Dalish" mindset. Granted, while my first (and main) character was elven, he was Surana - Mage origin. The actual "elven" aspect seemed to play a much smaller role overall, and from a roleplaying standpoint, my Surana saw "elf" as a tertiary part of his identity... at best. Above all, he was a Warden; next, a mage. Elf might be next, but there are so many other nuances he might focus on - a leader, a lover, a friend, a hero - that the only time he really cared about his "elf" status was when people specifically brought it up or fellow elves were in trouble. The whole "elvish culture" aspect went completely over his head, and since I've never played any of the other elf origins, that's the same general viewpoint I see elves from.

 

I will bring this up, though. I've seen plenty of people who want to play atheistic or pro-Qun humans despite the Trevelyan family being very pro-Chantry. There is a "whether you like it or not" clause to compensate... but why can't the Dalish origin be the same? We know just as much about Levallan's backstory - have you even SEEN a human before? Are you just as sick of Dalish doctrine as a human might be of the Chantry's? Just because your origin is Dalish doesn't mean you have to embody all the inconsistent fundamentalist teachings of the disparate clans across the world. If I do a Levallan run at some point (and I probably will), I'll play however I darn well please and I sure as hell am not going to be the Dalish equivalent of Fenris.

[KaiserShep]

Dalish Survivor: Oh mercy! spare me shemlen!

 

PC: Nope

 

Dalish Survivor: Curse you Shem! Curse you to- *the Dalish is caught off as a sword is ran into his face*

 

Varric: You'd think some people would lay off the slurs when begging for their lives.