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[Icy Magebane]

Eh, he was surplus to my needs, so I just let him rot in his cell and went on my way.

lol... well at least you didn't kill an unarmed man without proof or even a hint that he might be a criminal.  That's better than some of what I'm hearing here...

[SnakeCode]

lol... well at least you didn't kill an unarmed man without proof or even a hint that he might be a criminal.  That's better than some of what I'm hearing here...

Some people just have to metagame. They can't help themselves.

[Milan92]

Take Zevran next time. He'll try to convince you of how your support of Harrowmont is a bad idea. The guy really is spineless.

 

Yeah, I know

[Icy Magebane]

Some people just have to metagame. They can't help themselves.

I don't even mind if they do that, but when they become self-righteous about people who make decisions based on how the character views the situation, that's when I have a problem.

[AresKeith]

Eh, he was surplus to my needs, so I just let him rot in his cell and went on my way.

I pretty much did the same when I wasn't playing an elf

[TheJediSaint]

lol... well at least you didn't kill an unarmed man without proof or even a hint that he might be a criminal.  That's better than some of what I'm hearing here...

There was overwhelming evidence that he was a complete tool.  I think that's enough for certain player characters.  It's not always metagaming.

[Shadow Fox]

Sure you can do it, but as Steelcan said, murdering someone who has done you no wrong and is locked in a cell makes little sense... especially when they can help you with the task you actually came to Denerim to accomplish: gain the support of the nobility over Loghain in the Landsmeet.  If the Warden has no direct knowledge of his crimes, it makes even less sense, considering the fact that every other person you've come across in Howe's dungeon has been an innocent bystander and has been tortured at some point... killing Vaughn without evidence is hard to justify...

Unless you talked to Soris first.

[Ryzaki]

Eh, he was surplus to my needs, so I just let him rot in his cell and went on my way.

 

Yep. Besides it's pretty easy to headcanon a Cousland of hearing the rumors of Vaughn's...proclivities. It's not exactly secret.

 

My mage on the other hand. She's just a troll (and an elf) so she just left him there cause screw him.

[LobselVith8]

Unless you talked to Soris first.

 

That's a good point, since Soris mentions Vaughan Kendells took his bride when you encounter him in the dungeons. It wasn't too difficult for my Surana Warden to make the decision to rid Denerim of Vaughan after speaking with Soris and freeing him from his prison; Shianni also realizes you're the one who saved Soris when you encounter her in the Denerim Alienage. With the demise of Arl Urien (who was apparently killed by the Antivan Crows who were hired by his son, according to Bodahn Feddic) and Vaughan, Alienage culture in Denerim might be a little better than it previously was.

 

Perhaps if the Denerim Alienage doesn't become a beacon of hope for people with the elven Warden turned Bann giving it's inhabitants more prosperity (and it's impossible to say how it's faring once the Hero of Ferelden disappears due to the circumstances surrounding the Breach), Skyhold might serve a similar function for the elves in the Alienages if the Inquisitor is Dalish, who might head to the location looking for a better life for themselves and their families - since the dwelling is supposed to attract merchants and the like. Maybe Dalish and Qunari elves might head to Skyhold as well.

[TheJediSaint]

Yep. Besides it's pretty easy to headcanon a Cousland of hearing the rumors of Vaughn's...proclivities. It's not exactly secret.

 

My mage on the other hand. She's just a troll (and an elf) so she just left him there cause screw him.

Charges:  Being a douche in the presence of a player character.

The sentence:  Death.

 

[Master Warder Z_]

@ LobselVith8

 

Bann Urien was at Ostagar. Howe's dungeon was the residence of several missing nobles. I'd take a rumor that Bodahn heard with a grain of salt.

 

Seriously, i mean how many soldiers, nobles and knights died on the field out there?

 

It took them SEVEN years to just finally tally all the dead.

[SgtSteel91]

I'm sure with Alistair as King he will make sure people like Vaughan can't hurt the Alienage. IMO Alistair's the type of Goody-Two-Shoes who would do that as King.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Wait... non-elves kill Vaughn? Why? Unless you're RPing a psycho.

 

Look, I'm cool with the Dalish, but killing him makes no sense from a Human or even a Dwarven perspective. My Cousland was disgusted by him sure, but the dude was a noble and his vote counts towards the Landsmeet.

 

What's the point in playing different origins if you're making the exact same choices?

My non-CE characters aren't psychos. They rescued Soris first who talks about what happened in the City Elf origin if you didn't play it. So those characters are just as informed of the facts as my City Elf, thus they reached the same conclusion: Letting a murderer and rapist take control of an arling is bad and innocent people will be saved by eliminating him.

[Master Warder Z_]

Letting a murderer and rapist take control of an arling is bad 

 

Depends on what you consider bad i suppose.

 

The Kendels apparently did decent enough with the Arling to have had it at least since the reclamation.

 

Beyond that, the PC isn't a seer nor do they write the storyboards.

 

Vaughn could have done and pulled a Stennis on everyone.

 

 

I think people tend to forget Nobility acts like Nobility, The Law is what you say it is, you have noble right, it isn't pretty nor nice, but that's Thedas.

[SgtSteel91]

I think you're forgetting that Thedas isn't a real place.

 

It's a video game. A power fantasy, if you want to boil it down to its core. If you want to kill Vaughn because you don't like him, then go for it.

 

Because it's not real. It's just a game to have fun. And people have fun by brining their own justice to what they perceive to be injustices.

[Master Warder Z_]

I think you're forgetting that Thedas isn't a real place.

 

No that's abundantly clear.

 

I'd be slightly disturbed otherwise, what with all the casual admittance of just stabbing some one locked in a cage.

[Mistic]

I think people tend to forget Nobility acts like Nobility, The Law is what you say it is, you have noble right, it isn't pretty nor nice, but that's Thedas.

 

Fair enough, but only the Human Noble would really care about it, wouldn't they? Maybe the Mage Warden too, since they are considered Fereldan too. Perhaps even the Dwarf Noble, because they understand nobility, even if it's from a different country and race. But the Dwarf Commoner, the Dalish Warden and, of course, the City Elf wouldn't be very compelled to respect that right.

[SgtSteel91]

Fair enough, but only the Human Noble would really care about it, wouldn't they? Maybe the Mage Warden too, since they are considered Fereldan too. Perhaps even the Dwarf Noble, because they understand nobility, even if it's from a different country and race. But the Dwarf Commoner, the Dalish Warden and, of course, the City Elf wouldn't be very compelled to respect that right.

 

Those who respect that right could just make Alistair King too, who is above everyone in Fereldan and who is the kind of person to not let people like Vaughn do whatever he wants to the elves.

[Master Warder Z_]

 who is the kind of person 

 

To be ruled by people like Vaughn.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Why would an orthodox Dalish Elf even pursue a romantic relationship with a human to begin with?

[Master Warder Z_]

Why would an orthodox Dalish Elf even pursue a romantic relationship with a human to begin with?

 

To be honest that was my first thought on the matter.

[Mistic]

Why would an orthodox Dalish Elf even pursue a romantic relationship with a human to begin with?

 

Because love is blind. Or because humans are sexy, take your pick

 

From a RPG point of view, because the character could start as an orthodox Dalish and end up as an unorthodox Dalish. Character development and all that.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Because love is blind. Or because humans are sexy, take your pick

 

From a RPG point of view, because the character could start as an orthodox Dalish and end up as an unorthodox Dalish. Character development and all that.

Well then we have our answer. An orthodox Dalish Elf would have to be LESS orthodox to pursue a romantic relationship with a human.