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I'm reading the lyrium page on the wiki now, and I can't find any reference. Do we know if a templar can 'get clean' and get over his addiction? Or is it always fatal if they stop using?

fatal is a strech but short of dying and being resurected theres no way to get clean. At worst you go mad at best suffer psychosis

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Can I Deny him Lyrium and watch him suffer? Then when he goes mad with withdrawal kill him?
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I always was amused there were Lesser, Greater, and in-between Lyrium potions which are all the same size.

Someone's cutting the Lyrium quality.

You need the good stuff, man.

That would be the Master Lyrium potions then, you either pay a fortune for them or employ your own 'Healer' to make you the good stuff.



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That would be the Master Lyrium potions then, you either pay a fortune for them or employ your own 'Healer' to make you the good stuff.

 

That's why you need to go Thedosian Columbia!

 

Aka Orzammar!


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That's why you need to go Thedosian Columbia!

 

Aka Orzammar!

 

Nah, I have my own supply chain.

 

see hT2yFhH.jpg


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Since it's liquid you probably could. Maybe that's what red templars do lol

It's more intense that way.

Nah, I have my own supply chain.

see hT2yFhH.jpg

Alistair will sell his entire kingdom just for this one room.

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Nah, I have my own supply chain.

 

SHOPIT.COM?



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SHOPIT.COM?

 It was the best image I could find.



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It's more intense that way.

Alistair will sell his entire kingdom just for this one room.

Kings and Wardens get their first batch for free.



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fatal is a strech but short of dying and being resurected theres no way to get clean. At worst you go mad at best suffer psychosis

 

Hm...so there really isn't much hope at a good outcome, huh?



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Hm...so there really isn't much hope at a good outcome, huh?

well i find maddness to be ball constant genius ideas heh id be urza from magic the gathering lol
Jokes aside no, its a noble goal to uphold templar ideals to safegaurd mages and non-mgaes but theres a cost

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well i find maddness to be ball constant genius ideas heh id be urza from magic the gathering lol
Jokes aside no, its a noble goal to uphold templar ideals to safegaurd mages and non-mgaes but theres a cost

 

Makes sense I suppose. Oh well, I'm sure the inquisition can have access to all the lyrium they want to :D.



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Makes sense I suppose. Oh well, I'm sure the inquisition can have access to all the lyrium they want to :D.

we have at least one templar and some seekers use lyrium to some extant we got lyrium for years
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Kings and Wardens get their first batch for free.


Well, that's all well and good until Alistair uses up his entire stash.

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Interesting topic although Bioware will probably hand wave the only reason I would want to interact with Cullen in DA:I.


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Well, that's all well and good until Alistair uses up his entire stash.

It's first order only, any further orders and he needs to pay. Fereldan is lovely and I love dogs, so I'll happily take it off his hands.



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It's first order only, any further orders and he needs to pay. Fereldan is lovely and I love dogs, so I'll happily take it off his hands.

You're sick. Get em addicted then started introducing fees. Deaths to good for you ;)



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Dudes, i am crying with laughter (which is highly inappropiate right now because I have nightshift and people are trying to sleep here).

This became my favorite thread in an instant
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I fully maintain that Cullen's hallucinations of Amell mage and crazy ranting at the end of the Mage quest in the Tower weren't due to demons tormenting him but the fact he was going through lyrium withdrawal.

 

Which...honestly, is entirely possible.

Lyrium is a hell of a drug.


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I fully maintain that Cullen's hallucinations of Amell mage and crazy ranting at the end of the Mage quest in the Tower weren't due to demons tormenting him but the fact he was going through lyrium withdrawal.

 

They were, absolutely. The demon only gave him the hallucinations about Surana or Amell. The ranting, shouting, lashing out, paranoia, weepiness etc are all well-recorded symptons of lyrium withdrawal, which he had to be going through for at least a couple weeks by the time you get to the tower (seeing as you hear rumors of the disaster as far back as in Lothering). Most of what people consider just Cullen being a jerk in that scene is actually Cullen going through weeks of withdrawal from a drug that's killing his nervous system each day he stays in that cage.


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They were, absolutely. The demon only gave him the hallucinations about Surana or Amell. The ranting, shouting, lashing out, paranoia, weepiness etc are all well-recorded symptons of lyrium withdrawal, which he had to be going through for at least a couple weeks by the time you get to the tower (seeing as you hear rumors of the disaster as far back as in Lothering). Most of what people consider just Cullen being a jerk in that scene is actually Cullen going through weeks of withdrawal from a drug that's killing his nervous system each day he stays in that cage.

It can't have smelled too good either in there.

Yeah, I had to mention it.


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They were, absolutely. The demon only gave him the hallucinations about Surana or Amell. The ranting, shouting, lashing out, paranoia, weepiness etc are all well-recorded symptons of lyrium withdrawal, which he had to be going through for at least a couple weeks by the time you get to the tower (seeing as you hear rumors of the disaster as far back as in Lothering). Most of what people consider just Cullen being a jerk in that scene is actually Cullen going through weeks of withdrawal from a drug that's killing his nervous system each day he stays in that cage.

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I fully maintain that Cullen's hallucinations of Amell mage and crazy ranting at the end of the Mage quest in the Tower weren't due to demons tormenting him but the fact he was going through lyrium withdrawal.

 

Which...honestly, is entirely possible.

Lyrium is a hell of a drug.

 

Y'know, when you put it that way, it makes sense. I still think the torture he went through played a part in his ranting, but the Lyrium withdrawal definitely adds to it.

 

Which means, as one post said, it could be possible for us to see it again if Cullen is taken captive if we send him to Redcliffe and they deprive him of Lyrium. 



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Y'know, when you put it that way, it makes sense. I still think the torture he went through played a part in his ranting, but the Lyrium withdrawal definitely adds to it.

 

Which means, as one post said, it could be possible for us to see it again if Cullen is taken captive if we send him to Redcliffe and they deprive him of Lyrium. 

 

Cullen: THE MAGES! FILTHY MAGES! I'LL KILL YOU ALL! I'LL EAT YOUR HEARTS! I'LL BUTCHER...

Inquisitor: *gives him an injection in the neck*

Cullen: Oh....thank you, Maker. Oh, yeah, that's the stuff. I love you man.

 

Varric: I'm going to need to spruce this up for the chronicle.



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Cullen: THE MAGES! FILTHY MAGES! I'LL KILL YOU ALL! I'LL EAT YOUR HEARTS! I'LL BUTCHER...

Inquisitor: *gives him an injection in the neck*

Cullen: Oh....thank you, Maker. Oh, yeah, that's the stuff. I love you man.

 

Varric: I'm going to need to spruce this up for the chronicle.

 

...Well, maybe not speaking of filthy mages...XD I don't think my mage would take that well.