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[Icy Magebane]

Will he do things for lyrium?

Why do you ask?  Would that make you more interested in playing as a Cadash Inquisitor?

[Tamyn]

Yeah that's straight up unrefined lyrium from the Dust Town mines. The stuff companions are guzzling down has a very small concentration of already refined lyrium.

 

What were all those glowing blue stalagmites that instantly refilled our mana when touched in the Deep Roads?

[Ravensword]

Will he do things for lyrium?

He'll do all kinds of things for a taste of that Andrastian Azure, so he can, in the parlance of Thedas, master Andraste's taint.

[The Elder King]

Alistair would still take lyriums in the Warden because he's addicted. A templar in withdrawal is a drooling mess...in theory. Gaider started Alistair stopped assuming in and then re-starting sometimes after DAO to continue using templar abilities, so it means he wasn't using it in DAO, and he was fine. It's a plothole...or Alistair's special blood makes him immune to the lyrium side-effects.

[Ryzaki]

Meh I preferred the whole lyrium isn't necessary it just makes them stronger and is a good tool to use to keep the templars in line thing.

 

Alas it wasn't to be.

[Master Warder Z_]

Meh I preferred the whole lyrium isn't necessary it just makes them stronger and is a good tool to use to keep the templars in line thing.

 

Alas it wasn't to be.

 

Right; And are you sure you don't just feel that way because you are anti chantry?

[Pierce Miller]

Right; And are you sure you don't just feel that way because you are anti chantry?

I'm as anti-chantry as they come but I much prefer it when Templars need lyrium to use their abilites, It just makes more sense lore-wise in my mind. 

[Master Warder Z_]

I'm as anti-chantry as they come but I much prefer it when Templars need lyrium to use their abilites, It just makes more sense lore-wise in my mind. 

 

It doesn't really make much sense if they can learn and use the abilities without Lyrium i agree.

 

Also Alistair was so stoned, he forget he was using lyrium the entire game! Heh.

[Solas]

does anyone have a link to gaider's words on alistair + lyrium?

[Master Warder Z_]

does anyone have a link to gaider's words on alistair + lyrium?

 

Here ya go baldy.

 

Even if Templar magic was recognized as spellcasting, it’s not innate to the Templars, if they just stopped taking lyrium eventually they would lose the ability. Although as Alistair proves, they can use the ability for a long time afterwards. I think part of that was just the requirements of gameplay, for us to have a specialization as well, so some of that story doesn’t quite match up with the gameplay, and I think eventually we’d like to work the lyrium requirement back into the gameplay as well.

 

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[Icy Magebane]

It doesn't really make much sense if they can learn and use the abilities without Lyrium i agree.

 

Also Alistair was so stoned, he forget he was using lyrium the entire game! Heh.

That would explain his bizarre sense of humor.  Raised by flying dogs? Anders love cheese? 

 

At least now we know for sure wtf he was smoking...

[Magdalena11]

I guess I just look at Cullen's use of lyrium as one of the costs of running an inquisition.  I assume his medication is covered under the companion/adviser health plan?  If not, it's a uniform allowance.  They're not going to make an adviser many fans have been hoping to finally get to romance a ravening lunatic constantly on the verge of withdrawal.  Not unless they make Leliana a delusional, hallucinating wacko and Morrigan a conniving, evil maleficar who goes out of her way to consort with demons.

 

Templars, including PC ones, are supposed to need lyrium to access talents to disrupt magic.  The red lyrium thing complicates things, but I think it's fair to assume that Cullen isn't going to be selling the  Skyhold throne to pay for his fix.  We're going to assume that food and beverages aren't going to be billed and itemized.  Let's let Cullen's lyrium and Vivienne's awesome mage hats just be part of the scenery.

[Solas]

Thank you!

[Master Warder Z_]

The Warden doesn't actually touch it. Lyrium vapors.

 

It sure is funny to watch them stagger back and wave their arms like they just don't care.

[Ryzaki]

Right; And are you sure you don't just feel that way because you are anti chantry?

 

Nope it was more interesting that it was possible for everyone to be able to combat magical abilities given time and effort. It'd been a good way for mages and non mages to one day be on a more decent field.

 

Also since when was I anti chantry?

[Br3admax]

Nope it was more interesting that it was possible for everyone to be able to combat magical abilities given time and effort. It'd been a good way for mages and non mages to one day be on a more decent field.

It still made no sense, given the nature of Templar abilities. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Also since when was I anti chantry?

 

Since about 2011.

 

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[Ryzaki]

Since about 2011.

 

._.

 

Well you'd be wrong then.

 

Oddly enough disagreeing with a religion and finding a group has too much power =/= i want them completely destroyed or brought down low. They provide Thedas with a perfectly useful function they just need oversight like every other group with far too much power.

 

 

It still made no sense, given the nature of Templar abilities. 

 

Actually people from magical bloodlines having an easier time would make sense. They are magical abilities.

 

And how does magical templar skills from lyrium (that only work against mages and demons) make anymore sense.

[Master Warder Z_]

Well you'd be wrong then.

 

Oddly enough disagreeing with a religion and finding a group has too much power =/= i want them completely destroyed or brought down low. They provide Thedas with a perfectly useful function they just need oversight like every other group with far too much power.

 

Like i said Anti Chantry.

 

There should be no restrictions, no hampering of influence!

 

It is the Maker's will!

[Br3admax]

Oddly enough influence=/=power either. 

[Ryzaki]

Like i said Anti Chantry.

 

There should be no restrictions, no hampering of influence!

 

It is the Maker's will!

 

Edit: Nope. Forget it.

[Ryzaki]

Oddly enough influence=/=power either. 

 

Edit: Oh screw this. I am not squabbling with people who are telling me what I mean. Have fun talking to an empty room.

[Fistian Handsome]

Alistair would still take lyriums in the Warden because he's addicted. A templar in withdrawal is a drooling mess...in theory. Gaider started Alistair stopped assuming in and then re-starting sometimes after DAO to continue using templar abilities, so it means he wasn't using it in DAO, and he was fine. It's a plothole...or Alistair's special blood makes him immune to the lyrium side-effects.

 

Doesn't Allistair say he was recruited into the wardens right before they had him start taking lyrium though?