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[aTigerslunch]

From what I picked up, this ME Next will be going along the same timeframe as ME1, but diverge from it, explore other parts of the universe.

[Han Shot First]

I won't predict much, except one thing: it will follow a "stranger in a strange land" sort of story/plot. Whether that is in another galaxy, or an isolated part of the Milky Way - doesn't matter. This is what we will get. Calling it right now. It is so incredibly predictable and so incredibly tempting from a writing standpoint as an easy-out for the ME3 ending debacle that it's almost impossible that they won't choose it.

 

What he said.

 

A direct sequel to ME3 is the setting I'm most interested in, but some of the rumors and a few of the dev quotes have left me with the impression that a sequel won't be happening. I also think we're going to get the stranger-in-a-strange land setting. 

[iggy4566]

its going to be **** or meh ether way watching progress for the next ME is like watching Jackass you want to to look away but you can't look away due the dumb actions making you laugh.

[Tonymac]

its going to be **** or meh ether way watching progress for the next ME is like watching Jackass you want to to look away but you can't look away due the dumb actions making you laugh.

 

Not only that, Iggy - I want them to get it right.  There is so much potential in the ME universe.  I played ME2 before I played ME1 - yet I was still blown away by ME1 because of the story being so amazing.  There was a ton to see and do, and we had the citadel to run around on.  I fought battles with a Reaper in the background!  There was a huge story and you got to discover so much - uncover the Reaper threat and all of that.  The game just felt epic.

[MrIllusion]

A sequel to ME3 is tricky because of the three different endings. I'm trying to figure out how Bioware can create a sequel without retconning or establishing a single cannonical ending, thus invalidating players who chose different paths in their play-through.

 

In all three endings, the Reapers are no longer a threat. So if the sequel was far away in terms of timeline, Bioware can just write the Reapers out of the storyline to introduce the next big bad. With a savegame import from ME3, they can have different starting prologues (like how they did for ME2):

 

Red - Reapers are gone. People remember the war was won at great cost but not much of the details. 

 

Blue/Green - Reapers go back into dark space after some time. Fast forward a few hundred years and the Reapers (and Shepard) become a distant memory. People remember a great war was fought in the past but not the specifics.

 

 

But the green ending is hard to simply ignore. Once synthesis occurs, the gaming world has to acknowledge that in some form. This can be accounted for if the next ME takes place far enough into the future where the technology behind synthesis has been discovered naturally. In that case, all Bioware needs to do is create different prologues:

 

Green - Synthesis at end of ME3. Fast forward a few hundred years and the origins of synthesis become forgotten, even though people erroneously link it to the Reapers..

 

Red/Blue - No synthesis at end of ME3, but the technology is discovered in the future based on Reaper technology. Fast forward a few hundred years and people credit Reaper technology for making synthesis possible. But they do not know exactly how it happened.

 

The only caveat is it has to be in the distant future (at least long enough for people's memory to become fuzzy). 

[TruthSerum]

A sequel to ME3 is tricky because of the three different endings. I'm trying to figure out how Bioware can create a sequel without retconning or establishing a single cannonical ending, thus invalidating players who chose different paths in their play-through.

In all three endings, the Reapers are no longer a threat. So if the sequel was far away in terms of timeline, Bioware can just write the Reapers out of the storyline to introduce the next big bad. With a savegame import from ME3, they can have different starting prologues (like how they did for ME2):

Red - Reapers are gone. People remember the war was won at great cost but not much of the details.

Blue/Green - Reapers go back into dark space after some time. Fast forward a few hundred years and the Reapers (and Shepard) become a distant memory. People remember a great war was fought in the past but not the specifics.


But the green ending is hard to simply ignore. Once synthesis occurs, the gaming world has to acknowledge that in some form. This can be accounted for if the next ME takes place far enough into the future where the technology behind synthesis has been discovered naturally. In that case, all Bioware needs to do is create different prologues:

Green - Synthesis at end of ME3. Fast forward a few hundred years and the origins of synthesis become forgotten, even though people erroneously link it to the Reapers..

Red/Blue - No synthesis at end of ME3, but the technology is discovered in the future based on Reaper technology. Fast forward a few hundred years and people credit Reaper technology for making synthesis possible. But they do not know exactly how it happened.

The only caveat is it has to be in the distant future (at least long enough for people's memory to become fuzzy).

I had already addressed this issue in a previous post.

The new characters have arrived in a new galaxy (dozens or hundreds of ships fleeing the Reaper apocalypse) just before the end of ME 3. They are using the relay network to monitor the situation back in our galaxy when all at once the galaxy goes dark.

All telemetry in the entire Milky Way galaxy just stops and they have no idea what happened or why and niether does the player. The new characters know going back is not an option so they decide to press forward into an entirely new galaxy.

With this scenario nothing is retconned and the ending of ME 3 is the one that YOU chose as a player.

All of your favorite alien races are still there (every major race has people that joined the fleet) but there is also an entire galaxy of new plantets to explore and new alien races to meet.

If it were up to me we wouldn't go back to the Milky Way galaxy until Mass Effect 7 at the earliest. By that time our own galaxy could look like a completely different place with everything turned upside down.

[Iakus]

That would be an incredible waste of a galaxy that was barely expored at all in the trilogy.

[Tonymac]

That would be an incredible waste of a galaxy that was barely expored at all in the trilogy.

 

True, but it would be a galaxy devoid of the Dogfart^TM  endings.

[Iakus]

True, but it would be a galaxy devoid of the Dogfart^TM  endings.

Yeah, but it would be a tacit admission that they ruined the Milky Way.

[iggy4566]

reboot people reboot. waits for people to ****** at him for not thinking that ME is flawless.

[Drone223]

reboot people reboot. waits for people to ****** at him for not thinking that ME is flawless.

No one is saying ME is flawless, it's just that seeing as how the franchise has only had three major releases and is only 7 years old a reboot isn't a good idea.

[Iakus]

No one is saying ME is flawless, it's just that seeing as how the franchise has only had three major releases and is only 7 years old a reboot isn't a good idea.

 

Well, the direction the trilogy went in wasn't a good idea either.  Why double down on that?

[themikefest]

I predict that Bioware Montreal will release the next ME game in 2016

[Vazgen]

reboot people reboot. waits for people to ****** at him for not thinking that ME is flawless.

No game is flawless. Select few games had reboots - most not successful. Something to think about...

[Drone223]

Well, the direction the trilogy went in wasn't a good idea either.  Why double down on that?

Overall the trilogy is actually very good, just needed to be planed better.

[iggy4566]

Overall the trilogy is actually very good, just needed to be planed better.

no it wasn't when the final game of a trilogy is universally hated and yes people hate it allot go around the places that aren't this site and you'll see very neg reactions to ME3 and when most remember the trilogy ending very poorly and making what you did point less in the other titles  doesn't make for a good Trilogy. 

[Vazgen]

no it wasn't when the final game of a trilogy is universally hated and yes people hate it allot go around the places that aren't this site and you'll see very neg reactions to ME3 and when most remember the trilogy ending very poorly and making what you did point less in the other titles  doesn't make for a good Trilogy. 

Universally hated? Of people I've conversed on the net (not only on this site) and in RL, about 3/4 have no or little problems with the game after EC. If you hate it, fine, but don't apply your vision to everyone.

[Farangbaa]

no it wasn't when the final game of a trilogy is universally hated and yes people hate it allot go around the places that aren't this site and you'll see very neg reactions to ME3 and when most remember the trilogy ending very poorly and making what you did point less in the other titles  doesn't make for a good Trilogy. 

 

Universally hated?

 

You guys crack me up so much, thinking you're the voice of the Mass Effect fans 

[Drone223]

no it wasn't when the final game of a trilogy is universally hated and yes people hate it allot go around the places that aren't this site and you'll see very neg reactions to ME3 and when most remember the trilogy ending very poorly and making what you did point less in the other titles  doesn't make for a good Trilogy.

Seeing as how DLC was released for ME3 that would indicated that a good number of people liked it as well otherwise Bioware wouldn't bother making any if it was universally hated which isn't the case.

[iggy4566]

Universally hated?

 

You guys crack me up so much, thinking you're the voice of the Mass Effect fans 

Glad I make you laugh cause I've been laughing ever since I came back from my two year absence because its pretty funny seeing how the BSN got even worse then it was a feat which makes me impressed , but I find great glee every time one you responds to me cause riling you people up is quite entertaining.  

Universally hated? Of people I've conversed on the net (not only on this site) and in RL, about 3/4 have no or little problems with the game after EC. If you hate it, fine, but don't apply your vision to everyone.

ok bud

[iggy4566]

Seeing as how DLC was released for ME3 that would indicated that a good number of people liked it as well otherwise Bioware wouldn't bother making any if it was universally hated which isn't the case.

Yep cause that DLC really added to the main story and added to the vast number of choices to the game which lead to one err.. I mean 3 endings.

[Drone223]

Yep cause that DLC really added to the main story and added to the vast number of choices to the game which lead to one err.. I mean 3 endings.

Bioware did relase the EC and some of the DLC's were self contained stories, Omega for example certain dialogue option's will influence Aria, and Citadel (considers one of the best if not the best DLc in the entire trilogy) gives people one last chance to interact with characters from the trilogy and was full good fan service. Not to mention Bioware clearly stated that EC was the only ending DLc they would do.

[Iakus]

Universally hated? Of people I've conversed on the net (not only on this site) and in RL, about 3/4 have no or little problems with the game after EC. If you hate it, fine, but don't apply your vision to everyone.

 

And don't apply your vision to us.

 

A lot of people are still disgusted with the endings to this day.Many are simply less passionate and have moved on.  But they still remember.

[Farangbaa]

Glad I make you laugh cause I've been laughing ever since I came back from my two year absence because its pretty funny seeing how the BSN got even worse then it was a feat which makes me impressed , but I find great glee every time one you responds to me cause riling you people up is quite entertaining.  

ok bud

 

How are you riling me up? The universal hate for ME3 you claim to exist is just hilarious, because it doesn't exist. 

[Vazgen]

And don't apply your vision to us.

A lot of people are still disgusted with the endings to this day.Many are simply less passionate and have moved on. But they still remember.

I never did. My comment was in regards of universally hated statement. I never claimed that everyone considers endings good. Some like them, some hate them, some don't care or moved on. I'm fine with every opinion if it isn't being forced on me.