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[Willowhugger]

Hey guys,

I was going over the various tie-ins to the video games in anticipation of Dragon Age: Inquisition for my blog. While both Asunder and the Masker Empire are obviously going to be leading into the game, I'm wondering what sort of characters and tie-ins we're going to see from both of these. I also have familiarized myself with the Dark Horse comics and can't help but wonder if they're going to be playing a role too.

 

Anyone want to go over what elements they think will show up?

 

Also, what they'd LIKE to see from them show up?

Here's my reviews of both Asunder and the Masked Empire with both ideas in mind.

 

Dragon Age Asunder review

Dragon Age The Masked Empire review

 

On my end, I'm hoping we'll be seeing a three-way war between Gaspard, Celene, and Briala with a chance to bring the first two down and an accommodation with the latter.

But I don't think Bioware will make it that easy.

Likewise, I hope Adrian and Rhys show up along with Evangeline.

[katerinafm]

Well Cole obviously plays a big part in this, if only because he's a companion now. Also I'm pretty sure we're going to see Celene, Gaspard and probably Briala, and reading the books will probably help a lot of players make their choice on who they will support.

 

I get the feeling that most other characters from Asunder will die in the intro.

[Willowhugger]

To be honest, Cole strikes me as the strangest choice from the books to fit into the groups. If I was going to pick any characters from Asunder, it would have been Rhys and Evangeline (or even Adrian to give a more controversial one). He's such a tremendously WEIRD character, not to mention responsible for such horrible evil deeds that it's hard to imagine him being a productive member of the cast.

I just hope the "people forget about him within five minutes of talking to him" thing is gone.

 

To be honest, I also regret Asunder's ending. While it makes for a good finale for the book, Lambert's death deprived the game of one of the best candidates I think for a subvillain.

The Templar fanatics have no "face" now.

[Zatche]

To be honest, Cole strikes me as the strangest choice from the books to fit into the groups. If I was going to pick any characters from Asunder, it would have been Rhys and Evangeline (or even Adrian to give a more controversial one). He's such a tremendously WEIRD character, not to mention responsible for such horrible evil deeds that it's hard to imagine him being a productive member of the cast.

I just hope the "people forget about him within five minutes of talking to him" thing is gone.

 

To be honest, I also regret Asunder's ending. While it makes for a good finale for the book, Lambert's death deprived the game of one of the best candidates I think for a subvillain.

The Templar fanatics have no "face" now.

 

That Cole is a tremendously weird character is what makes him interesting to me. I want to learn more about him. That he's so focused on helping people makes it easy for me to imagine he'll be contributing member of the Inquisition.

 

I do agree, though, that if the main cast kept forgetting about him, it would add an unnecessary layer of convolution to the party dynamic..

 

Also, we don't really know if Lambert is dead.

[dragonflight288]

Lambert is MIA, and hasn't been confirmed dead.

[Gervaise]

The fact that the timeline only says Lambert is missing presumed dead makes me wonder if we will encounter him again but in some different form.   Hopefully Cole will be upfront with this and tell us when we first meet because of course our character won't know that he was involved.   It wouldn't be the first time that someone we thought was dead makes a reappearance.  

 

Sadly there is a likelihood that both Rhys and Evangeline will be killed off at the beginning of the game but not absolute certainty.    May be they were expected to be there but weren't and that becomes another mystery to be solved.    Cole is quoted somewhere as saying he misses them but they had already left him behind at the end of Asunder so it doesn't necessarily mean they are dead, just that Cole doesn't know where they are.

 

I think Cole is interesting and of course our character will not know anything about him beyond what he tells us.    If you have read Asunder you know what he is guilty of but I'm not going to hold that against him unless the PC acquires that information either from Cole himself or another source.   That is the danger of reading books, it can make your character too knowledgeable.

 

The same comment applies to Masked Empire.   I will adjust my character's pre-knowledge to their racial origin but generally play it that they know very little about the people involved in those events and rely on others to fill me in.     Lelianna was closely involved with events in both Asunder and Masked Empire, so I imagine she will be very helpful in this respect.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I hope lambert is alive he is too big badass to die just from such weakling as cole and besides he need to join my forces to crush psycho mages and demons then bring order.

Divine and fiona or rhys or both will pretty much die otherwise who would be leader on peace conference.

[Master Warder Z_]

To be honest, I also regret Asunder's ending. While it makes for a good finale for the book, Lambert's death deprived the game of one of the best candidates I think for a subvillain.

 

You mean faction leader.

[SnakeCode]

To be honest, Cole strikes me as the strangest choice from the books to fit into the groups. If I was going to pick any characters from Asunder, it would have been Rhys and Evangeline (or even Adrian to give a more controversial one). He's such a tremendously WEIRD character, not to mention responsible for such horrible evil deeds that it's hard to imagine him being a productive member of the cast.

I just hope the "people forget about him within five minutes of talking to him" thing is gone.

 

To be honest, I also regret Asunder's ending. While it makes for a good finale for the book, Lambert's death deprived the game of one of the best candidates I think for a subvillain.

The Templar fanatics have no "face" now.

Rhys and Evangeline are directly involved in the Mage-Templar war, and have a clear side. Bioware would be practically screaming "You're supposed to side with the Mages!" If they gave us these two as companions.

 

I also disagree on Lambert being a villain. He's a hardliner, not a fanatic. He never overstepped his bounds, and only took matters into his own hands after The Divine betrayed him.

 

If he does show up in DAI I hope we have the option to recruit him to our cause.

 

To me the clear candidate for a sub-boss (and an out and out villain) is Adrian.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I think they can fit in in any number of ways, but I'm not expecting anything major.

[Steelcan]

They will do what they've always done, mostly ignore it and tell the story they want to tell anyways

[Master Warder Z_]

They will do what they've always done, mostly ignore it and tell the story they want to tell anyways

 

About the only exception to that rule i think was Ducan and he ended up being a bit character anyway.

[X Equestris]

I imagine Imshael and Michel might make an appearance.

[Master Warder Z_]

Well one laid the ground work for the Orlesian civil war and the other the Mage Templar War.

 

In all, it basically covers the backstory and lead up to both conflicts.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I was kind of wondering how they are going to explain all the backstory stuff that happened in the books for people who have not read them. I was talking to a work colleague recently who is a DA fan, but he has not read the books, and during our conversation, I realised just how much major background information is in the books that he was unaware of. It seems like the intro of the game is going to have to dump a tremendous amount of info on the player if what is going on is going to make much sense.

[Willowhugger]

Rhys and Evangeline are directly involved in the Mage-Templar war, and have a clear side. Bioware would be practically screaming "You're supposed to side with the Mages!" If they gave us these two as companions.

 

I also disagree on Lambert being a villain. He's a hardliner, not a fanatic. He never overstepped his bounds, and only took matters into his own hands after The Divine betrayed him.

 

If he does show up in DAI I hope we have the option to recruit him to our cause.

 

To me the clear candidate for a sub-boss (and an out and out villain) is Adrian.

Honestly, I don't think the Templar-Mage war is going to get all that much focus. I think the game is going to probably treat it as a single subplot of the game with probably about as much importance as the Urn of Sacred Ashes questline or the Werewolves vs. the Dalish. The plotline is the Rifts and the Elder One with other things on the minds of the Inquisitor than this conflict.

I think the games take on the subject won't be, "YAY MAGES" or "YAY TEMPLARS" but "this was a stupid waste of human life that needs a resolution so pick a side since it doesn't really matter because Elder One."

As for Lambert and Adrian. Lambert tried to have Wynne killed because of what she might find. For me, that gets rid of any claims the guy has to the moral high ground. I admit, though, some may like him as much as I like Adrian and support her actions. The murder was wrong but, honestly, the guy had killed thousands of people accidentally. He wasn't innocent.

[TTTX]

I was kind of wondering how they are going to explain all the backstory stuff that happened in the books for people who have not read them. I was talking to a work colleague recently who is a DA fan, but he has not read the books, and during our conversation, I realised just how much major background information is in the books that he was unaware of. It seems like the intro of the game is going to have to dump a tremendous amount of info on the player if what is going on is going to make much sense.

Hopefully, the ME team sucked at that, in the ME games when they mentioned events or characters from their ME novels.

 

Let's hope the DA team have learned from the ME teams mistakes.

 

 

Honestly, I don't think the Templar-Mage war is going to get all that much focus. I think the game is going to probably treat it as a single subplot of the game with probably about as much importance as the Urn of Sacred Ashes questline or the Werewolves vs. the Dalish. The plotline is the Rifts and the Elder One with other things on the minds of the Inquisitor than this conflict.

I think the games take on the subject won't be, "YAY MAGES" or "YAY TEMPLARS" but "this was a stupid waste of human life that needs a resolution so pick a side since it doesn't really matter because Elder One."

As for Lambert and Adrian. Lambert tried to have Wynne killed because of what she might find. For me, that gets rid of any claims the guy has to the moral high ground. I admit, though, some may like him as much as I like Adrian and support her actions. The murder was wrong but, honestly, the guy had killed thousands of people accidentally. He wasn't innocent.

I'm pretty sure that Devs have said that we stop the Templar Mage war early on in DA:I.

[adorkable-panda]

It really sucks when Bioware introduces interesting characters in different veins aside from the games such as Adrian, Rhys, Briala, even Maevaris (The first *real* transgender character in DA history) from the Comics, all of whom I hope appear in next installments if not this one. 

 

Obviously the activation of the Eluvians fit in since Morrigan appears to have flown out of one, so I'm hoping that Briala makes a cameo of some sort, sicne her role is so interesting especially after the events of the Masked Empire. 

 

Also, I forget the name at this point, but the demon that was released in Masked Empire, I really hope that that forbidden one is a sub boss of some kind since the other "ones" were killable in past games. 

 

on the subject of Lambert, I too believe that he's alive. Though the novel did end ambiguously with Cole's catchphrase before slitting things, I just feel like he will appear in some way, at least as a face for the Templars. Obviously in terms of DA:Asunder he was a bonafide "antagonist" but if he were to appear in DA:I that's for the PC to decide. He's just badass and cool. 

[Willowhugger]

I think its a good thing that Inquisition won't focus too much on the Mage-Templar war

I mean we already had DA2 for that its time to resolve it being a side conflict like th Dalish vs Werevoles is perfectly fine

 

we know that the central conflict will be about the breach and the elder one

I wonder what the other side conflicts are ( the Orlesian Civil War and Grey Wardens probably no idea what else)

 

I foresee it working like this.

* Mage-Templar War
* Grey Wardens
* Orlais Civil War
* City Elves Uprising
* Investigating Nevarra
* Investigating Tevinter
* The Elder One plotline throughout