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200+ IQed, 

 

IQ is usually meaningless.

Then you didnt experience a real war. Soldiers who took part in wars ARE scared of wars, and/or have traumatic experiences.

And you can know all the fighting that exist but if youre heart paralyzes you when you need it because of fear you wont have a single crap about those skills.

 

Not always.

 

(Un)Fortunately, the military usually doesn't recruit people with that mental profile.



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Tarek x Last Krogan x Cassandra Saturn

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No offense, you werent in a war, you were between a war. The war wasnt against you or what you'd stand for so they didnt target youre house.

 

That is indeed the definition of being in a war. Except that, even those that don't stand for either, many still get caught in the crossfire. If a neutral entity is attacked by one side, it's either because it was an accident, or those people were trying to involve others.

 

Do you think every American is at war with every Iraqi, simply because the 2 countries were fighting? No. Only those that engage the other side, are at war. There are Ukranians who aren't affected by Russia's invasion of Ukraine at all.

 

That's why I hate it when a politician or an advertisement or whatever, paints a whole group under the same brush. This week I've been hearing ads saying "Dads love so-and-so, so come here and buy your dad a Father's Day present." When I gave my dad his present today, I, as a joke, apologised for not getting him a present from a warehouse store, knowing full-well that not only is he my dad, but that he's also not interesting in power tools.

 

Unless Tarek joined a side of one of the "6 wars", and attempted to attack, or defend himself from, someone, due to his choosing a side, he hasn't been in a war.

 

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I don't know what made Tarek cry after watching whatever it is he watched, but...

 

I'm honestly not sure how you could put yourself in the world of a fictional character, without actually wanting to be a part of their lives. That's why I laugh whenever a character, in The Simpsons for example, feels down. They don't exist, so there's no reason to feel bad for them. Sure, you can feel like you're a part of their world, but there's no use crying because of what happened. It really has to mean something to you, before there is a reason to feel definitively connected to them to the point of crying.

 

I'll give you a quote about this, that I think sums up my point.

 

From the show Daria, the local school Grid Iron hero, Tommy Sherman (a reference to Bobby Sherman) dies, then a large part of the school sobs about it. Many turn to Daria, because she's considered to always be miserable. She's "the Misery Chick". And Daria comments on it.

 

"They're not sad because he died. They're sad because they're gonna die."



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IQ is usually meaningless.

 

Well, yeah. It's just an arbitrary number, based on what we humans perceive to be intelligence.

 

Apparently, there is no universal IQ definition. Apparently countries have different standards for IQ levels.

 

For example, I make stupid mistakes all the time, while others with apparently lower intelligence, make better decisions.


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Aaaand lockdown

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Aaaand lockdown

 

What with the first page of posts, I'm surprised it hasn't already been locked. Anyway, shouldn't you wait for Jimmy to approve the litmus test?

 

 

Oh & FastJimmy. He is my personal litmus test as to whether a thread is in trouble or not...



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GG on the rewind.

 

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If anybody wants to cry though, you can watch this with no context of what's going on and no connection to the characters whatsoever. I'm sure it'll still be sad.



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If anybody wants to cry though, you can watch this with no context of what's going on and no connection to the characters whatsoever. I'm sure it'll still be sad.

 

Yeah, I think it needs context. Either that, or the viewer needs to be invested in it.

 

I was trying to work out if they loved each other. If they did, the whole context of demons and the Unseen Horizon just confused me.



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wait this is a thread about emotions....ummm


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Yeah, I think it needs context. Either that, or the viewer needs to be invested in it.

 

I was trying to work out if they loved each other. If they did, the whole context of demons and the Unseen Horizon just confused me.

I'm not nearly verbose enough to effectively describe my interests but the demon and unseen horizon had to do with, I'd say, childlike innocence. People use many methods to cope with loss and withdrawing yourself into a fantasy world, even in your day-to-day, is one option. Dude in that scene pretty much just shattered the illusion they use to cope with hardships in their life, or things they don't want to face, like the loss of a loved one.



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I'm not nearly verbose enough to effectively describe my interests but the demon and unseen horizon had to do with, I'd say, childlike innocence. People use many methods to cope with loss and withdrawing yourself into a fantasy world, even in your day-to-day, is one option. Dude in that scene pretty much just shattered the illusion they use to cope with hardships in their life, or things they don't want to face, like the loss of a loved one.

 

Maybe I just didn't connect with the loss of her father. As I said earlier, it's a lot to do with it's meaning to you.



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Maybe I just didn't connect with the loss of her father. As I said earlier, it's a lot to do with it's meaning to you.

Could be. I can't draw any parallels in my real life to connect to that either, actually. The part that hits me is the harsh reality check of the whole scene. And the sadness that comes with that realization afterwards. To be told so matter-of-factly that what you've been doing is utterly pointless.



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I'm not nearly verbose enough to effectively describe my interests but the demon and unseen horizon had to do with, I'd say, childlike innocence. People use many methods to cope with loss and withdrawing yourself into a fantasy world, even in your day-to-day, is one option. Dude in that scene pretty much just shattered the illusion they use to cope with hardships in their life, or things they don't want to face, like the loss of a loved one.

 

It's called dissociation, and depending on how far you take it it can be quite maladaptive to everyday life.

 

If I remember the treatments you basically want to shatter their dissociative world, but not in a way that would be harmful.

 

I prefer anxiety/phobias.  :whistle:



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Could be. I can't draw any parallels in my real life to connect to that either, actually. The part that hits me is the harsh reality check of the whole scene. And the sadness that comes with that realization afterwards. To be told so matter-of-factly that what you've been doing is utterly pointless.

 

That doesn't work for me. Maybe if the three of them were adults. What children don't realise, is that most if not all of the things they cry about, mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.



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That doesn't work for me. Maybe if the three of them were adults. What children don't realise, is that most if not all of the things they cry about, mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

 

It really depends on what they're crying about.

 

If they're crying about the loss of a loved one, then it is a valid reason to cry.

 

If they're crying because they are being heavily bullied in school, and no one is helping them at all, that is also a valid reason. 

 

Do either mean much in the grand scheme of things?

 

It depends on your definition of "grand scheme". Is it the grand scheme of life in general, or is it the grand scheme if their own life?

 

Either way, both scenarios I described can heavily change how a person's personality ends up developing. For better or worse.



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That doesn't work for me. Maybe if the three of them were adults. What children don't realise, is that most if not all of the things they cry about, mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Being overly emotional about the "grand scheme of things" isn't restricted to children. I'm not here to tell you to connect to the scene or anything but the emotional reaction of the characters in it is not meaningless.



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It really depends on what they're crying about.

 

If they're crying about the loss of a loved one, then it is a valid reason to cry.

 

If they're crying because they are being heavily bullied in school, and no one is helping them at all, that is also a valid reason. 

 

Do either mean much in the grand scheme of things?

 

It depends on your definition of "grand scheme". Is it the grand scheme of life in general, or is it the grand scheme if their own life?

 

Either way, both scenarios I described can heavily change how a person's personality ends up developing. For better or worse.

 

I said "most if not all". That should cover me. Some children go their whole childhood crying about things that don't matter.



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Being overly emotional about the "grand scheme of things" isn't restricted to children. I'm not here to tell you to connect to the scene or anything but the emotional reaction of the characters in it is not meaningless.

 

I never said it was meaningless. I've only been giving my experience of the video, and opinions about children crying. Many of them cry about their parents taking away their favourite toy, or not being allowed to play with something.



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I said "most if not all". That should cover me. Some children go their whole childhood crying about things that don't matter.

 

They tend to be the bullied ones.



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They tend to be the bullied ones.

 

No, they tend to be the ones that haven't experienced what others have. Many are the ones predisposed to trivial things.

 

Once again, I'm about to quote a fictional character, whom I think sums up my current point.

 

Donquixote Doflamingo from the anime One Piece:

"Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!"



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Maybe Tarek has different values to the majority of us here? He grew up in a third world country, while most of us grew up in first world countries that haven't experienced war.



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No, they tend to be the ones that haven't experienced what others have. Many are the ones predisposed to trivial things.

 

So because other people have it worse than these children they should be mocked? 

 

What does it matter if someone has it worse off then the crying children? Children don't even have the mindset to even PROCESS that statement into something that makes sense. They have no concept of the world besides the one area that they are living in!

 

Just because they haven't suffered the way other people have suffered does not make their suffering obsolete. They are still suffering, and if you choose to ignore that then you're just increasing their suffering. 

Maybe Tarek has different values to the majority of us here? He grew up in a third world country, while most of us grew up in first world countries that haven't experienced war.

 

Of course he has different values. Everyone has different values, and the causes go far beyond just living in a different country. 

 

Also, has he ever stated where he grew up?