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[mass perfection]

I need to know because the answer will determine whether I'll be getting ME4 or not. If it's yes, I'll get it. If it's no but it takes place some time after ME3, then maybe, but if it takes places during or before Shepard's time, then it's a big fat "NO!"

[MEuniverse]

The timeline of the next Mass Effect still remains unclear but hopefully we will get some info regarding that matter soon.

 

 

Why the big fat no? you lost hope in BioWare?

[wolfhowwl]

Hopefully no.

[Natashina]

If it affects the course of the game, then I wouldn't mind seeing something like the Keep that is going up for the Dragon Age game.  As I've mentioned before in another thread, I think this will probably be set far enough in the future to where some events just won't matter anymore.   

[mass perfection]

The timeline of the next Mass Effect still remains unclear but hopefully we will get some info regarding that matter soon.

 

 

Why the big fat no? you lost hope in BioWare?

Almost.

[mass perfection]

Hopefully no.

Why?

[mass perfection]

If it affects the course of the game, then I wouldn't mind seeing something like the Keep that is going up for the Dragon Age game.  As I've mentioned before in another thread, I think this will probably be set far enough in the future to where some events just won't matter anymore.   

Because turning everyone in the galaxy into these green Obamanations won't impact the future for eternity...

[Natashina]

Do you honestly think they'd make Synthesis or Control an available choice for canon in ME4??  I enjoyed the Synthesis ending (having played the series the first time back in May of this year,) but no way.  I don't think so, anymore than I think the Control aka Cyber Messiah ending would ever happen.  Both endings change far too much of the status quo in too much of a drastic way to them to be plausible. 

 

In my opinion, in order to make any sort of ME games set after the events of Shepard, they are going to have to make an ending canon.  The only one that makes any real logical sense would be high EMS Destroy.   VIs can be rebuilt, and the technology to create AIs is out there; the Normandy isn't stranded; the Mass Relays aren't destroyed (and can be rebuilt via reverse engineering)  so it would be easier going forward with the story.   Just get rid of the Reapers all together on-screen.  Keep the references to codex and dialogue, but let's just call it that Shepard destroyed the Reapers with the side effect of the geth and EDI dying (as well as any other offscreen AI,) and all VI going offline.  

 

At this point, I consider some plot flags from the trilogy far more important for a Keep/save import than the ME3 ending.  For example: Allow the player some acknowledgement in ME4 if Shepard helped cure the krogans.  If your Shep did, we should be able to see progression of what Wrex and Eve try to do.  If your Shep didn't, we should see the krogans in even worse shape.   Things like that matter to me far more than if Shep is some sort of Robo God(dess) or if the Singularity has been reached on a genetic level.  

[ZipZap2000]

It's going to be on next gen anyway which completely removes any chances of save games having an impact on ME4. There will be a DA style keep I hope.

[mass perfection]

It's going to be on next gen anyway which completely removes any chances of save games having an impact on ME4. There will be a DA style keep I hope.

What's that?

[General TSAR]

Hopefully no.

 

Mass Effect 4 needs a clean slate. 

[ZipZap2000]

The DA keep lets you change the key decisions. That way you don't have to go back and play through the prequels again.

[Patrick260284]

It's going to be on next gen anyway which completely removes any chances of save games having an impact on ME4. There will be a DA style keep I hope.

 

I´m sure Bioware´s programmers are capable of making ME4 read your ME3 Savegame. Probably not on those crappy consoles but for sure on pc.

[ZipZap2000]

Indeed i'm sure it'll be worth paying the extra just for that experience. Especially if they do wind up having a 'keep' that does the same thing.

[InWeirdPeril]

Personally I want to be able to either Import the save games, a comic like genesis or something like the DA Keep.

Ignoring the Trilogy or just referencing events during the reaper war is not an option for me. I wish for some aftermath infos based on the save games.

[MACH SSR]

I would support importing save game in ME4.............................not for the Shepard Caharcter - but his decisions,romances and paragon\renegade level.

How many of you here have played Fallout series ?....................they all are about different persons but has the post apocalyptic world as common after nuclear fallout.
And yes its another hot favorite game just like Mass Effect Universe.

So, the aftermath of Shep's actions and players choices as to how he addressed the reaper threat would create a new galaxy out of milky way and that needs to be checked in the new ME4.

Plain reason.
1.If Shep destroys reapers/synthetics and Mass Relays and lives - there is a different universe out there.
2.If Shep controls reapers - a new galaxy out there with Mass Relays repaired quickly.
3.If Shep synthesizes the species of entire galaxy - its again a new galaxy with Mass Relays repaired quickly - and with synthetics and organics thrown in same primordial muck...............its a chaotic thing out there - people would have options to discover that.

Now people who wants the ME4 to be in a period after Mass Effect three and without the save game having any effect , then its pretty vague logically.How would I feel playing a game which has no connection with the trilogy of Shepard in the Mass Effect universe ? Will the galaxy forget what was done in the war ?
Players who chose synthesis would find every organics back to square one - no green eyes ?
Players who chose control would find reapers eliminated or still existent and still as a threat - coz they were never controlled without a save game ....
Players who chose destroy would find the geth again and would ask.......what the !!! - dint I wiped them out - and reapers again oh no !!!

So if you find a Krogan,Slarian,Turian,Hanar,Drell,Asari,Quarian in the next game, its still Mass Effect universe and without the save game import it would be like everything back to square one.

Now if its a Prequel to the trilogy - its boring - we already have comics and dossiers about what happened before.
Now if its about what happened to the crew members of Normandy after the Cruicble was fired - on the remote planet - then, its a spin off.
So a sequel and a spin off needs the save game as a must - or else who is dead or alive wont be determined.

and a Prequel is plain boring.

So, Bioware has to include save game parameters or else its not a Mass Effect Universe, we have to guess the Mass Effect universe which we loved so much is lost with Shep and his decisions and was never there.
 

[N-Sign]

Do you honestly think they'd make Synthesis or Control an available choice for canon in ME4??  I enjoyed the Synthesis ending (having played the series the first time back in May of this year,) but no way.

 

Really?  The really seemed to be pushing the Synthesis ending on you as the true and golden ending.  They gloss over any potential drawbacks unlike Destroy and Control.  Plus if you go Refusal the next cycle defaults to the Synthesis ending, if I recall.

 

They are either going to have to do a reboot or a prequel/side-quel in order to not ****** off a ton of people.

[ZipZap2000]

People are going to be mad no matter what they do but if they cannon synthesis (And I like synthesis) people will be madder than a krogan who just found out the Genophage wasn't really cured.

[wolfhowwl]

Why?

 

The new team should focus their efforts on telling a new story with new choices instead of spending money and time writing around the Quarians being dead or alive, the Krogan being cured or dying out, and so on. 

[Iakus]

Hopefully no.

 

Mass Effect 4 needs a clean slate. 

So much THIS

[MACH SSR]

Story and plots are the main strengths of the Mass Effect - and it cannot be achieved in the new one if it has nothing to do with the Shep Trilogy and starts anew.
People who had invested time in the Trilogy and played strategically to achieve the maximum - would feel deceived for sure without a save game import.

Synthesis and Control are Reaper favoring endings - if I have a massive army with huge military strength backing me - why not destroy the cause of all evils, the ambitious creation of the organics - the synthetics and let Shep live.
A person who played the game clumisly - just for sake of playing would end up in low Military scores and go for Synth and Cont ends to prove something for his commander instead of just dying out while destroying reapers.

Anyway, this might just be a Bioware point of view - players can have their own reason.
Otherwise why would one need flawless EMS to save Shepard physically at the end after destroying the Reapers - if it is not the best choice ?

Synthesis and Control are easier to achieve with low EMS scores.

This makes save import necessary to live in aftermath of the war - and see how it changed the Mass Effect Universe- it would be a new slate afterall - even with save import of the trilogy.

[JCFR]

If Bioware doesn't  include Safegame-Import for Inquisition, i doubt they will do it for ME4. And i would have to admit, it bothers me less in ME4 than it does in DA3, since the Shepard-Trilogy is done and completed. So to me it's fine, if Bioware starts anew  and leaves some package of the past behind. 

[InWeirdPeril]

Well, with DAI they are substituting the imports With the DA Keep.

Which from what I understand, is a way to reproduce your save games by letting you edit choices you could make in the past 2 games. Just without the actual save game. Not sure though. Never really looked into it. DA was never really for me.

[Vazgen]

Well, with DAI they are substituting the imports With the DA Keep.

Which from what I understand, is a way to reproduce your save games by letting you edit choices you could make in the past 2 games. Just without the actual save game. Not sure though. Never really looked into it. DA was never really for me.

That's another thing tested with Inquisition. Depending on how the Keep works it may end up in new ME as well.

[Probe Away]

Do you honestly think they'd make Synthesis or Control an available choice for canon in ME4??  I enjoyed the Synthesis ending (having played the series the first time back in May of this year,) but no way.  I don't think so, anymore than I think the Control aka Cyber Messiah ending would ever happen.  Both endings change far too much of the status quo in too much of a drastic way to them to be plausible. 

 

In my opinion, in order to make any sort of ME games set after the events of Shepard, they are going to have to make an ending canon.  The only one that makes any real logical sense would be high EMS Destroy.   VIs can be rebuilt, and the technology to create AIs is out there; the Normandy isn't stranded; the Mass Relays aren't destroyed (and can be rebuilt via reverse engineering)  so it would be easier going forward with the story.   Just get rid of the Reapers all together on-screen.  Keep the references to codex and dialogue, but let's just call it that Shepard destroyed the Reapers with the side effect of the geth and EDI dying (as well as any other offscreen AI,) and all VI going offline.  

 

At this point, I consider some plot flags from the trilogy far more important for a Keep/save import than the ME3 ending.  For example: Allow the player some acknowledgement in ME4 if Shepard helped cure the krogans.  If your Shep did, we should be able to see progression of what Wrex and Eve try to do.  If your Shep didn't, we should see the krogans in even worse shape.   Things like that matter to me far more than if Shep is some sort of Robo God(dess) or if the Singularity has been reached on a genetic level.  

 

Best post in this thread.

 

I want a destroy canon, but I wouldn't be too worried about which ending they picked to canonize (other than refuse).  The fates of the Krogan and the Quarians are much more important to me, although if they really had to canonize these choices then 'genophage was cured and Quarians recovered Rannoch' would be fine with me.

 

If they are going to carry over choices then it should be via a Genesis comic or a DA Keep method, not by importing saves.  At some point they need to put quality of new content ahead of trying to keeping everyone happy.