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[Vazgen]

I'm creating this topic to find out what people prefer to do in their ME3 playthroughs regarding rachni situation and why do they do it.

If you save the queen in ME1 and spare her again in ME3 you'll get

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only these little insects as help. They count as 100 war assets as opposed to 25 you get from Aralakh company when killing the queen. 

One one hand, it speaks of the peaceful nature of the rachni, not willing to be used as weapons even in the face of Reaper invasion. On the other hand

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if the genophage is not cured, they take over Tuchanka

They were present since Prothean cycle, making them the oldest race in the galaxy, and they were spared during the Prothean cycle. In ME3, however, Reapers are not keen on sparing them, seeing them as advanced enough.

 

What do you think, is it possible for the queen to play other races, trying to create new rachni empire of the ashes of the alliance?

Can they serve as a limiting factor for possible krogan expansion, if the real cure is administered? Do you save the rachni or kill them? And what do you think of rachni in general?

 

P.S. Apparently, they were quite close to the Earth at some point...

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[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

It would've really been cool to see the Rachni explored a lot more. 

ME2 would've been a great place for that, but nope. 

[JasonShepard]

I think the Rachni are possibly on the same level as the Thorian and the Leviathans - or, at least, may have been on the same level at some point in the past. Think about it - at full strength, they're practically a living, breathing, organic QEC network. If EDI is the synthetic equivalent of a person, the rachni are the organic equivalent of the Geth.

 

And considering how good they are at survival (The Protheans thought they had wiped them out. The Krogan thought they had wiped them out. Shepard can potentially believe him/herself to have wiped them out. And they're all proven wrong.), the idea I have is that the rachni may have suffered a fall from grace similar to the Leviathans, and ever since, they've basically been in a dark age. I can certainly see them being far older than two cycles.

 

That's just my two cents though.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Grunt's drunken e-mail to Shepard > Rachni species.

 

 

Kill 'em all.

[ZipZap2000]

Codex needed some cool vid footage of the Rachni swarming over some enemies that would've been awesome.

[JasonShepard]

 Grunt's drunken e-mail to Shepard > Rachni species.

 

 

Kill 'em all.

 

...Pretty sure that I get that email even when I rescue the Rachni Queen. Might be bugged though. (War Assets seems to claim Aralakh company was effectively wiped out, but they still about 50 Assets, so...)

[Obadiah]

I have thus far always saved the Rachni Queen in ME1 and ME3.

In ME1 she is basically a traumatized civilian that is the victim of torture and experimentation at the hands of Saren, Benezia, and Binary Helix. I just can't execute someone like that over their potential rise in power. In ME3, again, she appears to be the victim of the Reapers. My hope is that Rachni and the Krogan can integrate into the Council in the aftermath of the Reaper War, perhaps even help rebuild those civilizations willing the use and partner with these fast breeding peoples.

Plus, there is something poetic story-wise about the Krogan race, specifically uplifted to destroy the Rachni, being the salvation of the species in ME3 when Aralakh company sacrifices itself and rescues the queen.

[congokong]

My canon Shepard that I've posted several times on this board reflects many of the decisions I would make, and that included not releasing the queen in ME1. Of course, that's assuming I'd have the ruthless stomach my Shepard had to euthanize the queen. It was a no-brainer from what we know of the rachni in ME1. That makes all this ME3 stuff moot, unless you're wondering if I'd kill the Breeder as well. Hell yes! If I'd kill the rachni queen I'm certainly not letting the Breeder run free unless I was auto-renegade/stupid. Plus it creeped me out.

[JasonShepard]

My canon Shepard that I've posted several times on this board reflects many of the decisions I would make, and that included not releasing the queen in ME1. Of course, that's assuming I'd have the ruthless stomach my Shepard had to euthanize the queen. It was a no-brainer from what we know of the rachni in ME1. That makes all this ME3 stuff moot, unless you're wondering if I'd kill the Breeder as well. Hell yes! If I'd kill the rachni queen I'm certainly not letting the Breeder run free unless I was auto-renegade/stupid. Plus it creeped me out.

 

Fair point. A middle ground that should have been offered in ME1 would have been to leave the queen in captivity, rather than killing her off. Could have easily been brought back in line with the other options (consequence wise) by having her then escape on her own when the Council sent in a team to kill her.

[Gingin]

Mass Effect: The Return of the Rachni? Sort of cliched but acceptable.

BTW, the Rachni mission with Grunt in ME3 is one of my favourites.

[SporkFu]

@JasonShepard. So you would save her life but put her in chains? Saren approves.

[JasonShepard]

@JasonShepard. So you would save her life but put her in chains? Saren approves.

 

Hey, I didn't say I'd do that. Just that outright release vs killing her are a pair of extremes. There's no need to do either.

[SporkFu]

Hey, I didn't say I'd do that. Just that outright release vs killing her are a pair of extremes. There's no need to do either.

Apologies, I didn't mean to come across like I was pointing fingers. 

 

Doesn't the queen say something about, if you leave her there her crazy kids will find her and kill her anyway? I don't remember exactly, I tend to spacebar through that conversation anymore. But it makes for an extreme situation.

[Excella Gionne]

I think I threw the Rachni Queen into poisonous gas...

[RanetheViking]

The future of the Rachni?

 

They become under paid extras in an endless parade of human made B Grade movies, where heroic Alliance marines, shouting gung-ho slogans,  hold off swarms of evil insectoids.

 

 

 

 

Rachni Ravager Drone 317a was quoted as saying, "Meh. It's a living."

[Quarian Master Race]

https://www.youtube....h?v=2mvmHwCxw5A

[JasonShepard]

Apologies, I didn't mean to come across like I was pointing fingers. 

 

Doesn't the queen say something about, if you leave her there her crazy kids will find her and kill her anyway? I don't remember exactly, I tend to spacebar through that conversation anymore. But it makes for an extreme situation.

 

No worries, my post was supposed to come off more as a sarcastic "You wound me, good sir!" than it did, so... Call it even?

 

Since you can have wiped out all of her children by that point, or be on your way to do just that (at her request), I don't think so. She definitely refers to being killed by her kids if you leave her in ME3... but that really doesn't make sense, since they ought to just lock her down again to make more Ravagers...

[Vazgen]

Fair point. A middle ground that should have been offered in ME1 would have been to leave the queen in captivity, rather than killing her off. Could have easily been brought back in line with the other options (consequence wise) by having her then escape on her own when the Council sent in a team to kill her.

I agree, just leaving her out there would've also been quite a Renegade move. But then, I suppose, I would never save her in ME3 if that was the case

[Vazgen]

I view saving the queen in ME3 as a balancing factor to the krogan. The Council can keep both in check since one can always possibly be recruited to fight against the other. 

I find the rachni a fascinating race, and also quite scary. To survive at least two cycles when at least three races tried to annihilate them and to prove an equally strong opponent in each cycle is just bada**

[Cknarf]

The next time we see the queen: "Uh... yeah... my songs are soured or some sh*t. The children are killing people again."

Jesus, lady, beat their ass or something.

[Obadiah]

Remembering how the Rachni Queen mind melded/communicated with the Asari in ME2, and that the Queen did not appear to be indoctrinated in ME3 even though she was captured by the Reapers, do you think the Rachni are immune to Reaper and Leviathan mind control? Perhaps the Rachni could even act as a check on the control exerted by Leviathan in the war's aftermath.

[dogstar12]

The Queen just wants to live a peaceful life  

[Farangbaa]

Remembering how the Rachni Queen mind melded/communicated with the Asari in ME2, and that the Queen did not appear to be indoctrinated in ME3 even though she was captured by the Reapers, do you think the Rachni are immune to Reaper and Leviathan mind control? Perhaps the Rachni could even act as a check on the control exerted by Leviathan in the war's aftermath.

 

Well.. their notes were soured before.

 

Whatever that may mean.

[ZipZap2000]

The game hints that either Reapers or Leviathans were controlling the Rachni during the Rachni wars or maybe that's some yet to be discovered new enemy.

[congokong]

The game hints that either Reapers or Leviathans were controlling the Rachni during the Rachni wars or maybe that's some yet to be discovered new enemy.

It was a theory with no evidence.

 

In the Leviathan DLC when you try to make a connection between Levathan and rachni activity you find nothing. It also wouldn't make sense from Leviathan's premise of trying to stay hidden to try building up an army of rachni which would never be enough to overthrow the reapers anyway.

 

They also don't think reapers were involved because besides the time being off there was no reaper tech.