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Helfix

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So, not really sure if it pertains to the current forum section but I am kind of wondering.

 

You are basically put in-charge of an organization as absolute ruler. You grow in power, are creating an army, have powerful allies and castles. Would it be possible for you to end up being the one on top? To rule it all? Or is this kind of an farfetched dream :-)



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Probably.

I foresee the Inquisition becoming like the Jedi Order of Thedas.

Mostly because Gaider says that's what it's going to become.

Powerful, but no one is giving up their crowns to it either.


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when you can side with the demons as a option (or so i hear) you could very well be like sauron. i just hope your inquisitiors power isn't tied to a ring, or your magic rift hand.



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when you can side with the demons as a option (or so i hear) you could very well be like sauron. i just hope your inquisitiors power isn't tied to a ring, or your magic rift hand.

If this is the case it makes one wonder how many options to rule the world, the Inquisition will have at the end of the main campaign, for good or for ill.  And then how many of these options will be importable into the next game OR how the writers will correct the world to explain how a power mad Inquisitor got their connumpance. 


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You're not going to become Lord of all Thedas, no.



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Probably.

I foresee the Inquisition becoming like the Jedi Order of Thedas.

Mostly because Gaider says that's what it's going to become.

Powerful, but no one is giving up their crowns to it either.

 

"We're keepers of the peace, not soldiers. Except when we totally are soldiers. Which we are. All the time."


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Willowhugger

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"We're keepers of the peace, not soldiers. Except when we totally are soldiers. Which we are. All the time."

 

"Starfleet is not a military!"
 


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They say you can't become King in this one but you could always be far more powerful than a King. Think about it your reach extends across Orlais, Ferelden and most likely several other countries in Thedas. So it'd make sense if by the end of the game you're actually feared by monarchs.



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They say you can't become King in this one but you could always be far more powerful than a King. Think about it your reach extends across Orlais, Ferelden and most likely several other countries in Thedas. So it'd make sense if by the end of the game you're actually feared by monarchs.

 

I'd like to see the Inquisition become the dominate power in the Free Marches.

 

The Local Rulers still rule but the Inquisition is too powerful to do anything but what they say.

 

Like the Wardens in the Anderfels.



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I'd like to see the Inquisition become the dominate power in the Free Marches.

 

The Local Rulers still rule but the Inquisition is too powerful to do anything but what they say.

 

Like the Wardens in the Anderfels.

Though to be honest I'd love it if we could swoop in and take crowns for ourselves.



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Who needs crowns when the inquisition causes nations to tremble! skies to darken! the hearts of children filled with-....



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Pierce Miller

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Who needs crowns when the inquisition causes nations to tremble! skies to darken! the hearts of children filled with-....

Well we already have a throne.



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Willowhugger

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Do we know where Skyhold is?



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Pierce Miller

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Do we know where Skyhold is?

I assumed it was in Ferelden, it sounds very ferelden



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Probably.

I foresee the Inquisition becoming like the Jedi Order of Thedas.

Mostly because Gaider says that's what it's going to become.

Powerful, but no one is giving up their crowns to it either.

 

I'm gunning to try to make it more of a competent, non-indoctrinated Cerberus, myself. I've always wanted my very own NGO Superpower.


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Do we know where Skyhold is?

 

Somewhere in the Frostback Mountains. Probably smack dab along the border of Fereldan and Orlais.



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They say you can't become King in this one but you could always be far more powerful than a King. Think about it your reach extends across Orlais, Ferelden and most likely several other countries in Thedas. So it'd make sense if by the end of the game you're actually feared by monarchs.

 

Not really. In Thedas, we have the Grey Wardens as a good precedent. Their reach was larger than the Inquisition's is going to be in DA:I, yet it didn't stop the Fereldan king from kicking them out of the country. And even when there's a Blight some rulers tend to dismiss the Wardens, despite their best efforts to save the world.

 

I've got the feeling several times in this forums that people underestimate the power of states. The Masked Empire actually discussed it; no matter how powerful international organizations such as Mages and Templars are in the setting, the Orlesian Empire could crush them if so they wanted, not unlike the real Templars and France in our world.

 

What happens in the Anderfels is that royal authority is strong in the capital, but not in the rest of the country because of the constant darkspawn threat. According to WoT, in rural lands only the Wardens keep some presence, effectively leaving the monopoly on violence to them, one of the main attributes of a state. Of course, the Breach crisis will allow the Inquisition to hold the monopoly on violence in some lands for some time, but after it's ended I seriously doubt Ferelden and Orlais will become failed states, so it will be a matter of signing the right accords, not unlike the Grey Wardens did in the past.


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What happens in the Anderfels is that royal authority is strong in the capital, but not in the rest of the country because of the constant darkspawn threat. According to WoT, in rural lands only the Wardens keep some presence, effectively leaving the monopoly on violence to them, one of the main attributes of a state. Of course, the Breach crisis will allow the Inquisition to hold the monopoly on violence in some lands for some time, but after it's ended I seriously doubt Ferelden and Orlais will become failed states, so it will be a matter of signing the right accords, not unlike the Grey Wardens did in the past.

 

We also have seen how organizations can hold puppet governments. Meredith and company had a puppet in Viscount Dumar but, even then, he had power. Not MUCH power but power. Also, when they tried to rule directly, the Templars started to lose their power.

 

Keeping up appearances is important.

 

The ideal canon is unhardened Alistair, Chancellor Cousland with Teyrn title, Viscount Hawke (which might happen if you side with Mages in both), and both of them serving (with?) the Inquisitor.

 

You could make a decent ruling Triumvirate from those three.



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We also have seen how organizations can hold puppet governments. Meredith and company had a puppet in Viscount Dumar but, even then, he had power. Not MUCH power but power. Also, when they tried to rule directly, the Templars started to lose their power.

 

Keeping up appearances is important.

 

True, Kirkwall was another example of a failed state because the legitimate forces of the city-state were actually weaker than the Templar garrison.

 

I know that a lot of people see DA2 as a story of Mages and Templars, but I saw it more as a tale of the separation of church and state, and the nature of the state itself.

 

The Templars held a lot of power after they deposed the legitimate Viscount and put a puppet-ruler in his place. That Viscount had tried to kick out the Templars after they pressured him to favour Orlesian interests. Talk about church interference in wordly matters. Act 2 is a story of how the puppet-ruler tries to solve the situation (and fails), and Act 3 of what happens when not even appearances of legitimacy are kept. Aveline complains that the Templars put obstacles to the Kirkwall guards, and nobles complain about Meredith's rule and start looking at Hawke as a good candidate to oppose Meredith.

 

It also explains why pro-Templar Hawke was attacked by Meredith in the end. Because they were the only figure left with enough power to oppose the Templars. I'm not saying that it was lust of power what motivated Meredith, mind you. Red lyrium fueled her paranoia. Paranoia against mages, evidently, but paranoia against nobles too. We know of her past trauma with her sister, but let's not forget that it was a mundane, not a mage, who had her predecessor, poor Knight-Commander Guylan, hung. Hawke was likely a threat in her eyes, a possible Viscount Perrin 2.0.

 

The ideal canon is unhardened Alistair, Chancellor Cousland with Teyrn title, Viscount Hawke (which might happen if you side with Mages in both), and both of them serving (with?) the Inquisitor.

 

You could make a decent ruling Triumvirate from those three.

 

But Viscount Hawke only happens in the Templar ending, and only for a year or so. By the time DA:I starts, there's no Viscount Hawke anymore.

 



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But Viscount Hawke only happens in the Templar ending, and only for a year or so. By the time DA:I starts, there's no Viscount Hawke anymore.

True and both the Warden and Hawke disappear.

 

Hawke could probably become Viscount no matter what post-war.

We'll just have to see what happens then.

 

(She may have to kick the current one off, though)



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True and both the Warden and Hawke disappear.

 

Hawke could probably become Viscount no matter what post-war.

We'll just have to see what happens then.

 

(She may have to kick the current one off, though)

 

That's assuming they have a place to go back to. Hawke has probably lost their state, money and family. Depending on choices, Hawk could also express a desire to go back to Ferelden one day. Hell, for all we know, they could end up as an Inquisition agent or die in the fight against the Elder One, so I wouldn't make plans for them yet.

 

If human, I would be more interested about Ostwick's interests. That city interests me more than Kirkwall at this point. At least they're sensible enough to build double walls in the case of another Qunari invasion.



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Given the option, i am so going to dress my inquisitor like that.



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Sauron.gif

 

Given the option, i am so going to dress my inquisitor like that.

 

I must have a "thing" because I played my Skyrim character as a mostly Lawful Good Sauron.

 

Walking around in Daedric Armor, traveling with Serana my pet-vampire, and using my vampirism to....protect the innocent.

 

I also play Bright Sith.



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I must have a "thing" because I played my Skyrim character as a mostly Lawful Good Sauron.

 

Walking around in Daedric Armor, traveling with Serana my pet-vampire, and using my vampirism to....protect the innocent.

 

I also play Bright Sith.

 

Nope cant do it, i played to many games where i am forced to be a goody goody so when given the choice i choose to be bad

 

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Admittedly i prefer playing an intelligent and manipulative "evil" "villain" protagonist, but that option is so rare that i can't help but shed manly tears of despair.


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