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If Andraste was burnt on a pyre...


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... how did they seperate her ashes from the rest?

 

I'm just asking the questions, yo!


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Very carefully. 


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Maybe Arl Eamon was healed by a magic tree they used for firewood :D


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(double post again)



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Human ashes are often heavier than ashes from wood. It is also thicker and more sticky due to the fat on the human body.... What?


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Human ashes are often heavier than ashes from wood. It is also thicker and more sticky due to the fat on the human body.... What?

I'ma take your word for it... 

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Human ashes are often heavier than ashes from wood. It is also thicker and more sticky due to the fat on the human body.... What?

Step away from the gas can!



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Step away from the gas can!

But I dunwanna!  :crying:


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You got it, we've had it all wrong from the beginning. We use magical firewood ashes from Tevinter to heal Eamon. 



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Err... Idk. Magic? :P

Unless they felt like playing cindirella. Separating poppy-seeds from ashes kind of thing.



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How do you spread out the ashes of a loved one who was cremated together with the coffin? The ashes in an urn tend to consist of more than just the ashes of the deceased.

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They don't. They put all the ashes and charcoal through a sieve, separate out the metal bits of the coffin and the bone fragments, then put the bone fragments into a pulverizer that reduces them to powder and add it back into the sieved ashes.

 

Not sure how they do that in Thedas short of a pestle and mortar.



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They probably didn't.   Admittedly the vase didn't look that big from what I recall but it is possible it was big enough for the amount of ashes.   A horse is a lot bigger than a human but when my horse was cremated the ashes fitted into a casket that sits on my mantle piece.   May be I didn't get them all but I probably got the majority.   When my Mum was cremated, the ashes left fitted into a tube that could be carried and didn't take that long to scatter.     May be they didn't take all the ashes that were left from the funeral pyre but I would imagine they got most of them and that would have been everything that was left.   Unless Andraste's ashes sparkled it wouldn't have been possible to identify them sufficiently to separate them.



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... how did they seperate her ashes from the rest?
 
I'm just asking the questions, yo!


I doubt they did. They probably stuffed as much as they could into a large pot.
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They don't. They put all the ashes and charcoal through a sieve, separate out the metal bits of the coffin and the bone fragments, then put the bone fragments into a pulverizer that reduces them to powder and add it back into the sieved ashes.

 

Not sure how they do that in Thedas short of a pestle and mortar.

 

This. Pyres are used for execution not cremation Andy’s body would have been easily distinguishable. Removed from the pyre and burned again in a smaller hotter fire.

 

Wood was too expensive befor the invention of the chainsaw to waste. Most cultures that practiced cremation only symbolically burned the bodies then deposed of the rest some other way

 

In this case they where trying to create a "holy relic" so it makes sense that they would invest the time and effort.

 

Or magic.


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I'm more surprised there WERE any ashes to begin with.

 

From history: When Jan Hus was burnt on a pyre in 1415, his ashes were supposedly thrown into the Rhine river, to deny their site becoming a major pilgrimage location for the Hussites.

 

What wouldn't you want, the Hussites rebelled some 15 years later, and a century later, BOOM, Catholics were severely outnumbered by them in the Kingdom of Bohemia.



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animal ashes look and smell different than wood ash



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According to the legend, touching Andraste's Ashes healed Harvard's injuries and caused him to have a vision of Andraste. It would be easy enough to sort the magical Ashes from the non-magical version.

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Behold, the Risen Andraste in all Her glory!!

 

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Praise be to Her Herald, Father Kolgrim, for showing me the True Path to the Maker's side!

 

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Repent! Repent you who are so easily mislead, so that you too may know the Maker's Light!


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I'm more surprised there WERE any ashes to begin with.

 

From history: When Jan Hus was burnt on a pyre in 1415, his ashes were supposedly thrown into the Rhine river, to deny their site becoming a major pilgrimage location for the Hussites.

 

What wouldn't you want, the Hussites rebelled some 15 years later, and a century later, BOOM, Catholics were severely outnumbered by them in the Kingdom of Bohemia.

 

The Soviets also dumped Hitler's ashes into the Berlin sewers. 



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Behold, the Risen Andraste in all Her glory!!

 

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Praise be to Her Herald, Father Kolgrim, for showing me the True Path to the Maker's side!

 

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Repent! Repent you who are so easily mislead, so that you too may know the Maker's Light!

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Where is your "Andraste" now?


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Human ashes are often heavier than ashes from wood. It is also thicker and more sticky due to the fat on the human body.... What?

 

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magic



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A simple wood pyre burns nowhere near hot enough to reduce a human body entirely to ashes: the skin, hair and fat burns, the muscle and internal organs mostly end up cooked and almost nothing happens to the bones beyond a bit of charring/cracking - it's probable that after her execution, Andraste's remains were removed and cremated properly elsewhere - although given that pre-industrial ovens couldn't burn hot enough either, if her body was entirely reduced to ash, we must presume the involvement of magic at some stage - if not, then we can expect a significant amount of un-burned bone mixed in with the ash.



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I'm sure mages used a fire spell to initially start the fire. Otherwise, think of her body as charred meat...or google burnt bodies.

Her body would've remained intact, just charred.