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The tradition of ugly headgear continues: the default Inquisitor helmet


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#126
Nohvarr

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Gah I nearly barfed when i saw the first pic....

Better Helmets for Star Wars would be....

 

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And as For Awesome non-jedi armor/helment...

 

Dune-Fedaykin-%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BE%D


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#127
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To me I like the idea of realistic helmets and find them appealing, also the fact that helmets don't have to all be silver polished like most poeple think of when they think of plate armor or helmets.

 

In fact there were a TON of ways that armor was customized/decorated, from the color of the steel by the blacksmith and things that could make it come out black/blue, to painting over armor (this also served as a way to prevent rust), cloth coverings (there are historical examples of helmets that have little areas to attach cloth to the helmet), and then the more expensive things like inlays/riveting/gilding, etc.

 

The idea that all armor was "polished" and a mirror finish is just not true and one of the many popular myths surrounding historical armor and the middle ages in general.

 

For example, some few surviving examples of painted helmets, the "black sallets,"

 

http://www.pinterest...13852531681139/

http://www.pinterest...78338470768314/

 

 

As far as armor goes, I was always a fan of both the "gothic" and "Milanese" style of plate armor.

 

http://www.pinterest...07617705406161/

http://www.pinterest...59067026157331/

 

For a more decorative approach to armor you can look at the armor of kings/royalty, while some of it was never intended for battle (IE parade/tournament armor) it can give out a good "fantasy" vibe while still retaining at least somehow of a realistic approach.

 

For example Filippo Negroli was probably one of the most famous armor designers to the kings of his time, he made some truly...well "out there" designs for royal armor,

 

Such as:

http://4.bp.blogspot...een-capture.png and many more.

 

Another example of decorative armor from King Charles V:

http://www.pinterest...01690233928012/


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#128
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I thought some of the DA2!mages so called silly hats were cute



#129
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I'm sort of with other people on this.

 

On its own, the helmet looks badass.

 

For some reason though, when it's applied it looks like a tin bucket with a face cutout. :S


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What game(s) are the first two pics from?



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What game(s) are the first two pics from?

 

Baldur's Gate 2 and Neverwinter Nights



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Baldur's Gate 2 and Neverwinter Nights

 

What??!!!! You've got to be kidding me. Those graphics look way too good. Shame shame BW, I don't see the evolution on par -unless there are mods involved, then I would understand.



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would you rather have him wear a papper bag over his head?



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UniformGreyColor

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would you rather have him wear a papper bag over his head?

 

 I might actually prefer that after what I just saw.



#135
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I like the design, but whenever I see, it always looks really out of place.  Like, I can't even tell why.  It just sorta looks photoshopped on.  Maybe it's just because of how polished it is.



#136
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If its not a circlet or a crown where I can see both the characters hair and face, then I am most likely going to hide them anyway.   Yes... EVEN for heavy armor, though I rarely make characters that wear heavy armor either.  

 

The custom of removing your hat when you entered someones home or as a sign of respect actually started in the medieval days of knighthood.    It was considered rather rude to try to strike up a conversation while wearing your helmet.  



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would you rather have him wear a papper bag over his head?

 

Spider-Man did in one issue, but I don't think he pulled it off...



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Okay, bear with me, I think this could be fun. Internally, whenever we have big discussions about visual designs we came up with a rule:

 

You are allowed to say that something sucks IF you provide at least one alternative that you think is better. 

 

It helps to clear away the fog of vague personal opinion (or it can show that a dissenting voice has little to no taste and can therefor be ignored). It also helps to create a weather vane of the team's overall tastes and preferences. If you're down for playing along and following our rule, I'd be interested to see what everyone thinks works/doesn't work. 

 

Give me a skull helm.

 

http://static.comicv...55346-kaelp.jpg



#139
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I'm not a huge fan of the helm, but then I almost never like helms anyway.

 

Just give me the option to not show it and I'm happy with it.



#140
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Well that helmet is only a bit fugly.

 

Would like something more simple like...

 

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#141
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Here are some examples of what I think "suck" and should be avoided. Obviously this is SWTOR, but the problem of having terrible looking headgear spans multiple games and even genres. I also realize cherry-picking the most hilariously bad looking helmets is not too constructive, but this is a real problem. Nothing kills my desire to roleplay or invest myself into my character than my character getting a piece of armor that makes him/her look like a moron. Please, keep the armor and headgear dignified. 

 

swtor-hallowed-gothic-helm.jpg

swtor-underworld-armor-bounty-hunter-emp

 

consular-clowns.jpg

 

*cringes as she remembers her SWTOR days*. I think pretty much 99% of SWTOR Models should be avoided like the plague. LIKE WHO THOUGHT THE RAKATA SET LOOKED GOOD FOR SAGES OMFG. Anyway, I think the DA:I hats look good so far.


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#142
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I like the default helm this time. Looks like something a awesome hero would wear. 8)



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I liked alot of the witchers armor and helmets (not that the main char wore any) it seemed to be more grounded that most fantasy designs that honestly are usualy quite obviously style over substance. And while most the time it isn't too noticable, if you stop and really look at what people are wearing you kinda have to facepalm :P

 

 

rogue?:http://i.kinja-img.c...rytyij8tjpg.jpg

http://img4.wikia.no..._knight_(1).jpg

http://i.kinja-img.c...pe3dlfmpjpg.jpg

http://i.kinja-img.c...p296hca6jpg.jpg

 

It looks more like something people might actually wear all day.



#144
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I'm not a big fan of the "default" Inquisitor helmet either.  Especially as a person who plans to play a mage, I would have preferred something more like a dragon circlet:

 

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Image by CorellaStudios on deviantart

 

Not to say there couldn't be something like this in the game, but I won't be wearing the default helmet either way.

 

For an actual helm design, something like this is a little more to my taste:

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#145
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I think there is enough room in the fantasy genre for all sorts of designs. I don't think it all has to be practical or all flair. I would like more understated appearance but masterwork level stuff however. That's my preference and it is almost never catered to for some reason. I find it hard to believe I'm the only gamer that could like such things.

By "understated appearance but masterwork level stuff" I mean a master smithed katana looks like a katana. The jade hilts, the dragon wings, the jewels, the gold engravings all that stuff is Hollywood. That stuff can be cool, but it's also cool to just wield a sword that looks like a sword.

#146
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I've just realized how much the default Inquisitor looks like Féreüs Le Fléau...

 

 

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... which is an awesome discovery for me. :wub:



#147
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*edit* Ops, already replied to this thread. 



#148
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Okay, bear with me, I think this could be fun. Internally, whenever we have big discussions about visual designs we came up with a rule:

 

You are allowed to say that something sucks IF you provide at least one alternative that you think is better. 

 

It helps to clear away the fog of vague personal opinion (or it can show that a dissenting voice has little to no taste and can therefor be ignored). It also helps to create a weather vane of the team's overall tastes and preferences. If you're down for playing along and following our rule, I'd be interested to see what everyone thinks works/doesn't work. 

Ok. Like I said, the default helmet sucks because due to its design it is more dangerous to the wearer than it is helpful. Upper chest and neck injuries are guaranteed should the inquisitor ever look down or turn their head. It also decreases mobility greatly.

A fairly rational reason to find it sucky I think. 



#149
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Just typing in 'circlet' in google images gives you tons of good images, from very ornate and feminine to fairly neutral barely decorated bands.  And considering the stuff they make male mages use, I think saddling them with a feminine circlet will not be the worst offense either.  The simple skullcap is actually quite solid (and practical) too - especially if the devs could implement it without shaving the characters head. Note, that it obviously won't protect as well as a solid helm, but it (should) have advantages of much better field of view and mobility (turning your head with a huge chunk of iron on it and only being able to see through a relatively narrow cut is the tradeoff for having that extra protection).

medieval_helmets_by_kluwe-d3chg8b.jpg

Kluwe at devianart.  Since we are looking at practicality and ideas - these are both practical and fairly well drawn.  Note that chainmail hoods were fairly common as well as it would afford decent protection for the neck.  Think Monty Python's and the Quest for the Holy Grail's King Arthur's head armor. 

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Note, image horribly stolen from rottentomatoes.

 

Obviously with a different crown/skullcap to fit the setting/role of the inquisitor.



#150
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It looks awful, good thing they give us the option to hide our helmet  B)


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