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[raging_monkey]

It occurred to me; what the hell are the Lucrosians up to during the Mage-Templar War? Did they vote to go to war with the rest of the Fraternities? If they didn't I bet they're profiting off the skyrocketing demand of lyrium. Smuggling is at an all time high.

probably hiding out doing what more mercantile magi do: war profiting

[lil yonce]

It occurred to me; what the hell are the Lucrosians up to during the Mage-Templar War? Did they vote to go to war with the rest of the Fraternities? If they didn't I bet they're profiting off the skyrocketing demand of lyrium. Smuggling is at an all time high.  

The Lucrosians at Andoral's Reach voted against leaving the circle. But it strikes me as unlikey that they're peddling lyrium from some clandestine base safely away from the fighting - I'm not even sure where they'd get the funds to buy it or who they'd be able to they sell it to at this point in time. I'd bet they're still on the run with everyone else they escaped with. They're a tiny fraternity, the second smallest, and there's strength in numbers in sticking with the other mages.

[Icy Magebane]

I can see them 'going to war', but not Leroy Jenkins style. Let the Libertarians handle that. So probably support like healing or like the monkey said setting up supply lines for profit. 

If Lucrosians value coin above all else, they are going to ally with whatever faction is going to produce the most stable economy.  I think I'll withhold judgement until I see the options we're given in DA:I.  Who knows... "mage freedom" may not be as chaotic as I expect it to be.  Maybe the writers have some kind of integration plan in mind that we either haven't considered or did consider but dismissed for some reason.

[ThatCityElf]

Well, this is my ideal scenario...but its probably never going to happen.

 

The Templars separate themselves from the Chantry and become a special kind of law enforcement. They are no longer a section of a giant religious organization, now just work for their nations and cities, like the Knight-Templars of Denerim or something.

 

Mages are given freedom and are only obligated to live in the Circles for a couple years to be schooled on their magical abilities, still allowed contact with their families, and the Templars just implement law&order on the whole of Thedas, not just in Circles. They change their policies, weed out corruption, and no longer make mages tranquil. They also only take the phylacteries of mages that have had a record of criminal activity/demonic possession. 

 

Good mages are allowed to join the Templar Order and help hunt down blood mages/criminals/people that abuse their power. Then, a court system is added, allowing bad mages to go on trials in front of juries before being punished for potential crimes. A cure for abominations is investigated and established, mages that turn sour can now be spared and given proper justice. Lastly, a special prison is constructed for mages that just don't want to abide by the law.

 

This is what I want, but its more likely that either 1) mages will live in their own nation or 2) we will have to choose to eliminate one or the other. Part of me also hopes Sandal's prophecy comes true, and that everyone is granted magic. Then the problem would be null and void

[lil yonce]

And if you want to talk about Lucrosians, come hither: http://forum.bioware...osian-proposal/

[raging_monkey]

Double post ignore

[raging_monkey]

Well, this is my ideal scenario...but its probably never going to happen. The Templars separate themselves from the Chantry and become a special kind of law enforcement. They are no longer a section of a giant religious organization, now just work for their nations and cities, like the Knight-Templars of Denerim or something. Mages are given freedom and are only obligated to live in the Circles for a couple years to be schooled on their magical abilities, still allowed contact with their families, and the Templars just implement law&order on the whole of Thedas, not just in Circles. They change their policies, weed out corruption, and no longer make mages tranquil. They also only take the phylacteries of mages that have had a record of criminal activity/demonic possession.  Good mages are allowed to join the Templar Order and help hunt down blood mages/criminals/people that abuse their power. Then, a court system is added, allowing bad mages to go on trials in front of juries before being punished for potential crimes. A cure for abominations is investigated and established, mages that turn sour can now be spared and given proper justice. Lastly, a special prison is constructed for mages that just don't want to abide by the law. This is what I want, but its more likely that either 1) mages will live in their own nation or 2) we will have to choose to eliminate one or the other. Part of me also hopes Sandal's prophecy comes true, and that everyone is granted magic. Then the problem would be null and void

green ending anybody

[ThatCityElf]

green ending anybody

You're right on that...but it would still solve everything. Maybe I'm just secretly hoping for Dwarven mages.

[raging_monkey]

if the circles are reinstated the libitarins and off-shoots should be severly limited in circle politcs cause the caused this in part

[Willowhugger]

How the Lucrosians handle the Lyrium Trade.

 

[raging_monkey]

You're right on that...but it would still solve everything. Maybe I'm just secretly hoping for Dwarven mages.

i wasnt being snide but i hope its a option sucked for me3 but here its possible

[The Ascendant]

Crystal Blue Persuasion.   Seriously, though mages all the way. My Mage Warden Amell and Mage Hawke will get along grand with my Male Mage Trevelyan. Magic is Might!

[Br3admax]

But is might right? 

[raging_monkey]

But is might right?

to some might makes right either politically of by force.... its asking for trouble

[The Ascendant]

I am not a proponent of savagery and violence, but I support mages far more than I support Templars. The ones in Kirkwall were ***holes. Except for Thrask, Keran, Cullen and Samson. I hated that one in Awakening as well.

[raging_monkey]

I am not a proponent of savagery and violence, but I support mages far more than I support Templars. The ones in Kirkwall were ***holes. Except for Thrask, Keran, Cullen and Samson. I hated that one in Awakening as well.

and magi are such saints there is equal fault on both sides

[Cainhurst Crow]

The Lucrosians at Andoral's Reach voted against leaving the circle. But it strikes me as unlikey that they're peddling lyrium from some clandestine base safely away from the fighting - I'm not even sure where they'd get the funds to buy it or who they'd be able to they sell it to at this point in time. I'd bet they're still on the run with everyone else they escaped with. They're a tiny fraternity, the second smallest, and there's strength in numbers in sticking with the other mages.

Other mages probably kill them on sight, along with the loyalist.

[The Ascendant]

and magi are such saints there is equal fault on both sides

I agree that both sides have their faults, but I find it difficult to sympathize with the Templars, when my PC'S are mages. My first walkthrough is 1) Male Mage Amell 2) Male Mage Hawke and 3) Male Mage Trevelyan. This is a pro magi walkthrough.

Second one will be 1) Male Dwarf Aeducan 2) Male Warrior Hawke and 3) Male Warrior Adaar. This will be pro Templar walkthrough. Also cultural and racial diversity.

[Cainhurst Crow]

But is might right?

Only if they agree with the person who has the might. Otherwise they call it oppression for doing the Same thing.

[Willowhugger]

In my headcanon, all three of them will be the same person.

 

 

In my canon-canon, there's a lot of very irritated white-haired mages saving Thedas lately.

[raging_monkey]

I agree that both sides have their faults, but I find it difficult to sympathize with the Templars, when my PC'S are mages. My first walkthrough is 1) Male Mage Amell 2) Male Mage Hawke and 3) Male Mage Trevelyan. This is a pro magi walkthrough.Second one will be 1) Male Dwarf Aeducan 2) Male Warrior Hawke and 3) Male Warrior Adaar. This will be pro Templar walkthrough. Also cultural and racial diversity.

i feel similar but blaming each other doesnt help we should set aside our issues and think of the people. Unlike merideth and orsino