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#2726
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That's fair so long as you honestly analyze the evidence that you are presented with, even if it runs contrary to what you wish to see.

 

I don't like 'evil empire' tropes. I hate Orlais for their culture of deceit and vanity. I could care less about their imperialistic procliltivites though.


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Free elves can never rise to the rank of Magister or Noble Houses.

Uh, yes they can. It's just a lot more rare. They probably can't become Altus level, but they can certainly become Laetens, which is still very eligible for magister membership.


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by Orlesian it was tell that capital was besieged

 

No WOT says the capital was besieged and WOT is WOG.



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Free elves can never rise to the rank of Magister or Noble Houses.

 

They probably never marry into the houses either.

They can still be very very rich and powerful, though.

 

Which is something you don't see in, say, other lands.

Mages can be enslaved in Tevinter too, so it's not a pure magocracy either.

mages cant be slaves in Tevinter as a dwarfs..if slave have a mage or have magic(not all have magic in 6-12 years) he would be free



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ok so what is a false info i give?

 

he is officially exile with shame who never was become a magister

 

and he was a Avecsius student who is a Venatory cultis

 

You claim he was a noone which judging by his title from Tevinter says others wise, you call him a criminal yet we know nothing about him except that he wants to change Tevinter

 

And just because he was Alexius' student doesn't mean he himself was in the Venatori, whether he was or not is for us to find out when the game ships



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mages cant be slaves in Tevinter as a dwarfs..if slave have a mage or have magic(not all have magic in 6-12 years) he would be free

 

Do you just spew random crap you make up?



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Do you just spew random crap you make up?

 

Pretty much looks like it



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Do you just spew random crap you make up?

Is there really any doubt at this point? 



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No WOT says the capital was besieged and WOT is WOG.

by Orlesian it was tell that capital was besieged but the capital in north what was defensless and the capital is near the sea when Qunari armada is landed

 

the Imperium was not conquered even that thousands of Qunari soldiers spread to Teinter lands...Tevinter was must to regroup his armies from south to north and not left south defensless to Orlais



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Do you just spew random crap you make up?

They are known to troll threads, so there is a strong possibility. 



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mages cant be slaves in Tevinter as a dwarfs..if slave have a mage or have magic(not all have magic in 6-12 years) he would be free

 

Then how was Fenris' sister enslaved?



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You claim he was a noone which judging by his title from Tevinter says others wise, you call him a criminal yet we know nothing about him except that he wants to change Tevinter

 

And just because he was Alexius' student doesn't mean he himself was in the Venatori, whether he was or not is for us to find out when the game ships

he was a laetan(2 class sitizen) and he does not become a magister

 

he is exile with shame what is already makes him a Tevinter criminal as his relationship with Avexius who is Venatory and he do work with him on someone what is connected to their cult stuffs



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Do you just spew random crap you make up?

To be fair, if he said that there are no dwarven slaves (I honestly can't tell) then according to the wiki page on Tevinter he's correct to the best of our current knowledge.

 

 

he was a laetan(2 class sitizen) and he does not become a magister

This, however, is not true according to his wiki page. He was apparently an Altus destined for great things, only he would not keep his sexual desires for other men secret or be as evil as the culture requires. (So, yes, apparently we do know that the Tevinters are just that bad.)



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he was a laetan(2 class sitizen) and he does not become a magister

Dorian was an Atlus actually, not a Laetan.



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by Orlesian it was tell that capital was besieged but the capital in north what was defensless and the capital is near the sea when Qunari armada is landed

 

the Imperium was not conquered even that thousands of Qunari soldiers spread to Teinter lands...Tevinter was must to regroup his armies from south to north and not left south defensless to Orlais

 

 

This tells me nothing other then the fact that i am quite thankful i took those classes before coming to the United States on how to use the written English language.


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mages cant be slaves in Tevinter as a dwarfs..if slave have a mage or have magic(not all have magic in 6-12 years) he would be free

as a pro mage and lore junkie please cease and disisst with your arguments they hold no merit cause they are factually incorrect and when others prove you wrong you continue. Please if you believe as such provide source. I say this as a friend
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#2742
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To be fair, if he said that there are no dwarven slaves (I honestly can't tell) then according to the wiki page he's correct to the best of our current knowledge.

 

We weren't discussing the enslavement of the Dwarves however.

 

We were talking about the Qunari conquering all of Tevinter besides the capital and then besieging it for years.



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Then how was Fenris' sister enslaved?

she was not a mage then if she was lived as slave,,,if she was a slave because noone said that she and fenris was and she is called as imperial citizen and she was to become a magister so fenris who was a soldier and bodyguard of Danarius(and he was his lover as Gaider comdirmed long ago) and "one of the best swordsmans in Empire" and was allowed to become a super soldier maybe lie to us because this is not making sense in many parts

 

Fenris told us many stories, many is a real bullsh*t



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I wouldn't be surprised if slavery in Tevinter works on a system different from chattle slavery, though.

 

That slaves might buy their freedom and other concepts which are alien to people of modern America.

 

It would explain why Fenris was able to get his sister and mother's freedom despite being a slave.



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Fenris tald us many stories, many is a real bullsh*t

 

Like you!



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Ugh, I can hardly even read what you're saying, anyway, she specifically states that Fenris had to win her and her mother's freedom. She was a mage the entire time. 



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he is exile with shame what is already makes him a Tevinter criminal as his relationship with Avexius who is Venatory and he do work with him on someone what is connected to their cult stuffs

 

Again, where are you getting this "with shame" info from?



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Fenris tald us many stories, many is a real bullsh*t

Yeah, but we meet her and she's a mage.

I thought like you did but it turns out I was wrong.



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This, however, is not true according to his wiki page. He was apparently an Altus destined for great things, only he would not keep his sexual desires for other men secret or be as evil as the culture requires. (So, yes, apparently we do know that the Tevinters are just that bad.)

Gaiders said 2 class citizen and after spell something like "altus maybe"...2 class is laetan not altus



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I wouldn't be surprised if slavery in Tevinter works on a system different from chattle slavery, though.

 

That slaves might buy their freedom and other concepts which are alien to people of modern America.

 

It would explain why Fenris was able to get his sister and mother's freedom despite being a slave.

Chattel slavery can work like that too, if the master allows it. Have you ever read Roots? Or seen the miniseries?


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