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[Steelcan]

What I think Moore was going for was morally ambiguous terrorist; anarchist or not. The movie probably romanticized V more than he would have liked.

Moore isn't known for being fond of any adaptations of his work

[Sir DeLoria]

Moore isn't known for being fond of any adaptations of his work

Ooh, I like the new avi, Steel.

[raging_monkey]

Neither,I don't have time to coddle either side so they better get their crap together.

they are humans(niod) they'll never get it together unless you sit them in a room and force them to eat rotten oatmeal til theyvhave a legal accord

[Steelcan]

Meh...He liked Watchmen. He dismissed it before watching, but changed his opinion after. 

huh wasn't aware of that..

 

I assume he watched the Director's Cut >.>

[HaHa365]

Moderate mage supporter. No group should be lorded over as the Templars do to the mages. Monitored, yes but not by such corruption.

[Br3admax]

Who was responsible for the mass-murder of Rivaini who wouldn't convert back from the Qun?

The Templars or the Chantry?

Rivain did that to themselves. 

[Darkly Tranquil]

Templars.No one should wield such power without atleast someone to make sure that mages won't abuse it.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[dragonflight288]

Rivain did that to themselves. 

 

It was the Chantry forces within Rivain, but it was a Chantry action. 

[Willowhugger]

It was the Chantry forces within Rivain, but it was a Chantry action. 

 

Yeah, that was dickish.

[Br3admax]

It was the Chantry forces within Rivain, but it was a Chantry action. 

No, the government and the Rivani Chantry, which is made out of the same people, teamed up to put down the heathens. Rivain still chose to do it to themselves. 

[raging_monkey]

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

they will need watchmen for the watchmen true. But where does that end you will need constant watchers

[DeityDi]

they will need watchmen for the watchmen true. But where does that end you will need constant watchers

That's the point.

We had the Seekers and still sh*t hit the fan.

[raging_monkey]

That's the point.We had the Seekers and still sh*t hit the fan.

maybe we can merge both factions into one comprised of both magi and templars

[Willowhugger]

maybe we can merge both factions into one comprised of both magi and templars

 

Yes, one which investigates.

And questions.

An Inquisitive sort of faction one might say.

[Urazz]

I tend to support both sides at times when they are doing the right thing.  I've supported the Templars on some things in DA2 and the Mages in others as well.

 

At the end of DA2, I sided with the Mages mainly because Meredith's reasons for calling for the Right of Annulment was shaky at best in my opinion.  Especially when the mage who destroyed the Chantry was right there to be arrested and tried.

 

Of course if there was a third option in DA2, I would've picked it.  I'm thinking of something more like Hawke ignoring both sides and focusing on protecting the citizens of Kirkwall until I move on to take on Meredith and Orsino.  It would still ultimately end the same way but there would be a lot more dead mages and templars from me killing both of them.

[DeityDi]

maybe we can merge both factions into one comprised of both magi and templars

But the mages were the part of the Chantry once. They lived together and "worked" together. And they still weren't pleased so they left and arranged the Circles.

 

Also, it's too late now. Now all the templars won't rest until all the mages die.

As for the Seekers who now the Inquisition - well, who knows. Maybe.

[Willowhugger]

But the mages were the part of the Chantry once. They lived together and "worked" together. And they still weren't pleased so they left and arranged the Circles.

 

To be fair, the Mage piece of the Chantry pie has always been the burnt crust.

[raging_monkey]

I tend to support both sides at times when they are doing the right thing.  I've supported the Templars on some things in DA2 and the Mages in others as well. At the end of DA2, I sided with the Mages mainly because Meredith's reasons for calling for the Right of Annulment was shaky at best in my opinion.  Especially when the mage who destroyed the Chantry was right there to be arrested and tried. Of course if there was a third option in DA2, I would've picked it.  I'm thinking of something more like Hawke ignoring both sides and focusing on protecting the citizens of Kirkwall until I move on to take on Meredith and Orsino.  It would still ultimately end the same way but there would be a lot more dead mages and templars from me killing both of them.

she hadbthe legal right to call for maybebnot just but legal.

Yes, one which investigates.And questions.An Inquisitive sort of faction one might say.

ahh... i see what you did there. But really why are people against this merging both groups

[Willowhugger]

 

ahh... i see what you did there. But really why are people against this merging both groups

 

In-universe, I imagine it will go over like a ton of bricks because the two have been murdering each other for a year and at each other's throats for centuries.

[raging_monkey]

But at some point ypu gotta say this is foolish

[DeityDi]

But really why are people against this merging both groups 

How the heck do you imagine it will work out? Try to merge orlesians and fereldans or elves and humans while you're at it. 

 

Also, merging them means that harrasment and abuse will only go up at this point.

[raging_monkey]

How the heck do you imagine it will work out? Try to merge orlesians and fereldans or elves and humans while you're at it.   Also, merging them means that harrasment and abuse only will go up at this point.

i figured theycwanna act like children we do what some teachers do a lnd put them in a rule and make them get along. So to speak. Personally im at the point of pressing the rest button on both groups lol

[Sir DeLoria]

they will need watchmen for the watchmen true. But where does that end you will need constant watchers

Well, that's where the Chantry is supposed to fit in.

[Urazz]

she hadbthe legal right to call for maybebnot just but legal.ahh... i see what you did there. But really why are people against this merging both groups

She did have the power to call for the Right of Annulment immediately after the Grand Cleric was dead but she did not have the law on her side to call for the Right of Annulment.  If Meredith didn't die at the end of DA2, then I think she would've been on trial for her actions in Kirkwall.

 

It wasn't a Circle mage of Kirkwall that bombed the Chantry and killed all those people but an apostate who was right there with her and confessed to it right in front of her.  If it was Orsino and/or a group of mages of the Kirkwall Circle did the bombing instead of Anders then she'd be well within her right enact the Right of Annulment because that would've been all the proof she needs to show that the Kirkwall Circle was beyond saving.

 

What Meredith should have done was arrest Anders and have him put on Trial and work to keep things under control until a new Grand Cleric was appointed.