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Adrian bothers me for two reasons.

 

1. *I* want to be the reactionary Anti-Templar Warmonger Maker Dammit! Fiona and Adrian take away from my desired role of being the most fist-shaking, hissing Anti-Templar bomb-throwing anarchist there is!

My Hawke should be up there too, dammit!

 

2. If she's meant to be a villain, a short-redheaded angry girl with freckles will only remind me of my wife.


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Adrian bothers me for two reasons.

 

1. *I* want to be the reactionary Anti-Templar Warmonger Maker Dammit! Fiona and Adrian take away from my desired role of being the most fist-shaking, hissing Anti-Templar bomb-throwing anarchist there is!

My Hawke should be up there too, dammit!

 

2. If she's meant to be a villain, a short-redheaded angry girl with freckles will only remind me of my wife.

I think she's meant to be an extremist with understandable motives. As for the former, don't be too sure. You might be able to do Adrian-like things to the point of them being called Inquisitor-like things in subsequent generations.



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I think she's meant to be an extremist with understandable motives. As for the former, don't be too sure. You might be able to do Adrian-like things to the point of them being called Inquisitor-like things in subsequent generations.

 

Oh, I hope so!

It's going to require at least two playthroughs.

One for MageJesus and other for Magneto.



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Oh, I hope so!

It's going to require at least two playthroughs.

One for MageJesus and other for Magneto.

 

I like Mage Moses better. "Let my people go!!!" *Parts Lake Calenhad with Staff*


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I like Mage Moses better. "Let my people go!!!" *Parts Lake Calenhad with Staff*

 

With Revan, you were always some variant of the snarky Luke Skywalker meets Han Solo archetype as a Light Side Jedi.

 

With the Exile, only then were you able to be Obi-Wan Kenobi meets Gandalf if you wanted to be.

 

JediJesus *REALLY* irritated Kreia.

 

So I'll be interested in how well Snarky Quisitor is written versus Diplomatic.



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I like Mage Moses better. "Let my people go!!!" *Parts Lake Calenhad with Staff*

Water Magic in DAI, yes please!

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I like Mage Moses better. "Let my people go!!!" *Parts Lake Calenhad with Staff*

There's historical speculation that the real Moses waited for the tide to go out and form a landbridge. The chariots that were being used to chase them got stuck in the mud, which the Israelites were able to deal with better due to being on foot. And then the Egyptians had to abandon their chariots and go back to their starting point due to the tide. Naturally, Moses and his followers were long gone by this point. Personally, I think that if the story was embellished to show the hand of God, it was a loss; I like this one better. And I certainly wouldn't mind troll options like this in Inquisition.



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^ Key words. Historical speculation. I wasn't alive during the time of Musa (pbuh) so it's not really for me to say one way or another. But I have watched documentaries on the very subject you mentioned. Intriguing stuff. 



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^ Key words. Historical speculation. I wasn't alive during the time of Musa (pbuh) say it's not really for me to say one way or another. But I have watched documentaries on the very subject you mentioned. Intriguing stuff. 

Keyword towards the end: if. I acknowledge I wasn't there.



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For the Templars.



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Adrian bothers me for two reasons. 1. *I* want to be the reactionary Anti-Templar Warmonger Maker Dammit! Fiona and Adrian take away from my desired role of being the most fist-shaking, hissing Anti-Templar bomb-throwing anarchist there is!My Hawke should be up there too, dammit! 2. If she's meant to be a villain, a short-redheaded angry girl with freckles will only remind me of my wife.

you love her lol *playful teasing tone*

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@Riverdaleswhiteflash:  Was murder, framing a fellow mage (let's forget friend) to incite war a bit excessive too?  I consider all the mages, templars and non-combatants killed before the peace summit to be her (and people like Fiona's responsibility).

 

But more importantly, I consider it my responsibility (in a roleplay sense) that my mage is part of the rebellion and could do nothing - until the moment he becomes Inquisitor - to bring justice to a situation that has, until that moment, spiraled out of control.

 

As for the "Tranquil" till death... that's just more mental RP.  Who knows if Adrian will even be addressed in Inquisition.



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you love her lol *playful teasing tone*

 

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STOP FINDING ME ADORABLE! I AM A TERRORIST, DAMMIT!


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@The Elder King:  The answer to that - is no. 
 
If they present Adrian like they always have - she certainly will have to get to the back of the line and shut her mouth.  I have no time for reactionary warmongers.  
 
And honestly, that's as far as it'll probably end up being taken (if addressed at all).  When the mages end their conflict, the ringleaders will be judged according to the severity of their crimes - that they will curse me as a traitor to "our people" means nothing to me. 
 
That she murdered an imprisoned mage and framed her friend to ignite a war is probably something my Inquisitor will never know about, but if he does find out... it will be very satisfying to offer her Tranquility to "pay" for her crimes in service with the promise of death after her sentence is served.

Thanks for the reply :).

At this point, depending on how long the war has been going on by the time DAI starts, I don't think that some would even view you as a traitor. I can see many just desiring to bring the fighting to an end.
 
Although, I do feel similarly. I don't care if the mages disagree with my beliefs, I don't care if they disavow me as being "one of them". I'll bring order back to the world, no matter what form that takes.

That's the approach I'm going to use for my dalish mage. While he do cares about (all) the elves, his primary goal will be to close the massive Breach in the Sky and the Elder One, who threatens all Thedas

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@Riverdaleswhiteflash:  Was murder, framing a fellow mage (let's forget friend) to incite war a bit excessive too?  I consider all the mages, templars and non-combatants killed before the peace summit to be her (and people like Fiona's responsibility).

 

But more importantly, I consider it my responsibility (in a roleplay sense) that my mage is part of the rebellion and could do nothing - until the moment he becomes Inquisitor - to bring justice to a situation that has, until that moment, spiraled out of control.

 

As for the "Tranquil" till death... that's just more mental RP.  Who knows if Adrian will even be addressed in Inquisition.

I'm not denying what she did was heinous, but it seems to me that if you're punishing it with death Tranquility is just unnecessary, and vica versa.



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But more importantly, I consider it my responsibility (in a roleplay sense) that my mage is part of the rebellion and could do nothing - until the moment he becomes Inquisitor - to bring justice to a situation that has, until that moment, spiraled out of control.

 

Part of the rebellion is a little strong. You basically just run away when the Templars try to kill you. I doubt the Inquisitor would go against teaching their parents instilled in them, and they most likely do indeed know their parents, from the offset. 



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@The Elder King:  The answer to that - is no. 

 

If they present Adrian like they always have - she certainly will have to get to the back of the line and shut her mouth.  I have no time for reactionary warmongers.  

 

And honestly, that's as far as it'll probably end up being taken (if addressed at all).  When the mages end their conflict, the ringleaders will be judged according to the severity of their crimes - that they will curse me as a traitor to "our people" means nothing to me. 

 

That she murdered an imprisoned mage and framed her friend to ignite a war is probably something my Inquisitor will never know about, but if he does find out... it will be very satisfying to offer her Tranquility to "pay" for her crimes in service with the promise of death after her sentence is served. 

So long as I can string up every templar who left the Chantry to start a war against the mages by their own entrails, I suppose that's fair enough.


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@Br3admax:  Well, I'd like to think my mage was doing whatever he could to mitigate that damage - even to the point of angering people like Adrian by stopping to heal wounded Templars and non-combatants as mages were forced to defend themselves because of the ruling of their new make-shift government. 

 

It's interesting to me that Rhys even comments that Adrian is elected First Enchanter in a system that the mages claim no longer exists.  

 

They slap together some crap and then make a ruling that will affect every mage on Thedas.  Honestly - that the First Enchanters even had the gall to do something like that in the first place says to me that whatever was going to replace the Circles was going to be worse than what existed.  

 

That being said - I'm going to play it that my Inquisitor's "sin" is secretly finding the explosion at the peace summit an opportunity (while also seeing it as a tragedy).



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angry-asuka-1.jpg STOP FINDING ME ADORABLE! I AM A TERRORIST, DAMMIT!

yes your... on both counts lol

I'm not denying what she did was heinous, but it seems to me that if you're punishing it with death Tranquility is just unnecessary, and vica versa.

then whats fitting penance? Personally life in aeonor is good to me

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lolthen whats fitting penance? Personally life in aeonor is good to me

I'd go with Tranquility. The danger she poses comes from her emotions and her powers. I'd probably go with death if that wasn't an option, since imprisoning a mage who wants nothing more or less than freedom is (as I've previously pointed out) both difficult and dangerous. (My main objection to both Tranquilizing her and executing her is just that either makes the other superfluous. There's little point in Tranquilizing someone before they're executed, or executing someone after they've been rendered unable to fight and more amenable to reason as far as supporting the fight.)



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I'd go with Tranquility. The danger she poses comes from her emotions and her powers. I'd probably go with death if that wasn't an option, since imprisoning a mage who wants nothing more or less than freedom is (as I've previously pointed out) both difficult and dangerous. (My main objection to both Tranquilizing her and executing her is just that either makes the other superfluous.)

wait dont we have chains that limit magic like in rhys's cell

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It'll be tough but I suppose I'll pardon her.

The real problem is I'll be having to pardon a bunch of Templars too.

Stupid Mercy!

 

Always backfires!

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wait dont we have chains that limit magic like in rhys's cell

Well, that's a step in the right direction. How limited are we talking? Could a particularly clever mage light a fire in exactly the right place, several days in a row, and then make the lock unable to stay locked through repetition?



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Well, that's a step in the right direction. How limited are we talking? Could a particularly clever mage light a fire in exactly the right place, several days in a row, and then make the lock unable to stay locked through repetition?

 

According to twitter, you will have the option of imprisoning people in your dungeon or executing them both.

However, Cole very strongly disapproves of imprisonment versus execution.



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According to twitter, you will have the option of imprisoning people in your dungeon or executing them both.

However, Cole very strongly disapproves of imprisonment versus execution.

Like, "look in my eyes" strongly disapproves?