Hopefully.@The Hierophant: How much you want to bet that the spirit protects Rhys and Evangeline... Wynne's final gift to the DA series.
It would be a perfect ending to everything Wynne has ever wanted. Protect her son... and bring sensible, reasonable order to the mage/templar conflict.
Hmm... Bioware, I hope this is one of your options.
On another note.
If Rhys is at the peace talks and is killed in the disaster, then what of Evangeline's fate? If she survives will the spirit that possesses her be corrupted from grief or something?
I got the impression that part of Justice's corruption into Vengeance was that Anders' anger was an easy vice for Justice (who has a black and white view of the world in which all wrongs have to be redressed regardless of who gets in the way) to fall into. So while it's possible for Evangeline's new spirit to be corrupted, I think it will be more resilient to it unless it experiences a stimulus that helps it take Faith (if I remember correctly that was what the spirit was supposed to be) too far.
The spirit blasts fired from a staff can leave traces like blue fire in DA2, and some of the hand nimbuses that appear when casting spirit/arcane spells can look like blue fire.
Then it's possible Adrian was being more responsible than I've been giving her credit for. That said, how do the other characters react to the spell? Do they seem to have any opinions as to what she was doing?
I guess he'd still train with them and make them work with the other forces. But no, I don't think he'll have a KC/vigilant role.You're not going to be persuade me if your starting point is that I'm biased. Pointing out that having templars watching over the mages no matter what choice we make addresses that the choice doesn't end up mattering if both choices lead to the same outcome.
So Cullen wouldn't be watching over the mages as a type of Knight-Vigilant, but simply acting as a general in the field of battle, and not watching over them or governing them if the Inquisitor sided with the mages who are fighting to maintain their autonomy from the Chantry?
To be fair Uldred was a Pride Abomination. Not a walk in the park for anyone that isn't a player character.
That's a great justification so long as it also applies to the Templars who died in the tower. I don't recall that being mentioned earlier... the statement was: "How many mages escaped the demonic assault in Broken Circle? Several. How many templars did? None." Aside from being false, it doesn't take into account the very large number of mages who were made into abominations. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe details aren't really that important so long as the argument sounds good...
I guess he'd still train with them and make them work with the other forces. But no, I don't think he'd after a KC/vigilant role.
Well, someone has to do it. And it's under his purview. Which I think means that he's either doing the job or has the person who is doing it answering to him.
Then it's possible Adrian was being more responsible than I've been giving her credit for. That said, how do the other characters react to the spell? Do they seem to have any opinions as to what she was doing?
Not beyond "don't throw magic at the peasants." Certainly there was no concern about burning the building down.
they joked how she burn the place down but spirit/arcane doesnt burn to my understandingThen it's possible Adrian was being more responsible than I've been giving her credit for. That said, how do the other characters react to the spell? Do they seem to have any opinions as to what she was doing?
That's what I meant. I didn't mean he should act as a KC with the mages.
Fair enough. As long as Cullen respects the decision of the Inquisitor to side with the mages seeking to keep their independence from the Chantry (in that scenario), then I can live with that.
@Riverdaleswhiteflash: Evangeline reacts before the situation spirals further out of control.
Not beyond "don't throw magic at the peasants." Certainly there was no concern about burning the building down.
they joked how she burn the place down but spirit/arcane doesnt burn to my understanding
Are we sure that this was just a joke, and not them trying to disguise honest concern as humor?
@Riverdaleswhiteflash: Evangeline reacts before the situation spirals further out of control.
Yes, and I'm trying to figure out what would have happened if she hadn't.
I got the impression that part of Justice's corruption into Vengeance was that Anders' anger was an easy vice for Justice (who has a black and white view of the world in which all wrongs have to be redressed regardless of who gets in the way) to fall into. So while it's possible for Evangeline's new spirit to be corrupted, I think it will be more resilient to it unless it experiences a stimulus that helps it take Faith (if I remember correctly that was what the spirit was supposed to be) too far.
Are we sure that this was just a joke, and not them trying to disguise honest concern as humor?
Said joke doesn't appear in that scene and doesn't seem to be an immediate concern.
You're not going to be persuade me if your starting point is that I'm biased. Pointing out that having templars watching over the mages no matter what choice we make addresses that the choice doesn't end up mattering if both choices lead to the same outcome.
So Cullen wouldn't be watching over the mages as a type of Knight-Vigilant, but simply acting as a general in the field of battle, and not watching over them or governing them if the Inquisitor sided with the mages who are fighting to maintain their autonomy from the Chantry?
Yes. Cullen is your military adviser. He directs and commands the troops of the Inquisition, and offers you advice on their use. More importantly to your concern, he doesn't consider himself a Templar anymore. So he 'watches over them and governs them' only so much as any commanding officer does.
Well, someone has to do it. And it's under his purview. Which I think means that he's either doing the job or has the person who is doing it answering to him.
I think he'll respect either decision.Fair enough. As long as Cullen respects the decision of the Inquisitor to side with the mages seeking to keep their independence from the Chantry (in that scenario), then I can live with that.
Interesting. She'll have to turn into a zealot in order to corrupt the spirit.
Or I might be wrong, and corrupting the spirit makes it do a complete 180. Didn't Gaider say something about Despair demons being worse than Pride demons?
possiblyAre we sure that this was just a joke, and not them trying to disguise honest concern as humor? Yes, and I'm trying to figure out what would have happened if she hadn't.
Said joke doesn't appear in that scene and doesn't seem to be an immediate concern.
Fair enough.
IIRC yeah. So she'll need to experience despair in order to corrupt the spirit?Or I might be wrong, and corrupting the spirit makes it do a complete 180. Didn't Gaider say something about Despair demons being worse than Pride demons?
Or I might be wrong, and corrupting the spirit makes it do a complete 180. Didn't Gaider say something about Despair demons being worse than Pride demons?
Not necessarily. That said, corrupting Faith turns it into Pride, not despair.
Not necessarily. That said, corrupting Faith turns it into Pride, not despair.
That does make more sense in the context of what I understood to be the way Justice was corrupted. It's not a complete 180 and I can see how someone with too much Faith in themselves or the Spirit they're joined to might give into to Pride.
Thanks for the correction.Not necessarily. That said, corrupting Faith turns it into Pride, not despair.
wait, since when are spirits corrupted into demons.....
make me wish the pc would be spirit boundThat does make more sense in the context of what I understood to be the way Justice was corrupted. It's not a complete 180 and I can see how someone with too much Faith in themselves or the Spirit they're joined to might give into to Pride.
wait, since when are spirits corrupted into demons.....
Since early into Dragon Age 2.
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