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[Lulupab]

There is no doubt spirits are immensely powerful. I mean just look at spirit healers who merely "flirt" with spirits. Wynne was quite powerful, she washed the floor with a pride demon. First none-PC character to be able to kill one thanks to faith. Even Anders was quite good before possession with Justice. He killed hundreds of Darkspawn single-handedly and he was named champion of vigil's keep if he lives, otherwise he fakes his death and leaves. Definitely choosing rift mage in Inquisition, and Templar fools be aware, spirit magic cannot be resisted. (gameplay rule).

[Icy Magebane]

If the recipe for the gunpowder is acquired. An enchantment could replace this, but would probably be very expensive. At the same time, a weapon of this design would be able to fire more quickly, one would carry around less weight in ammunition (instead of packing+powder+projectile, it would be just projectile+maybe a packing material), they wouldn't require the storage of explosive material (assuming the enchantments aren't made on-site), would be potentially less prone to malfunction due to misfire or wet powder or what have you etc.

 

Of course, a mage would be able to use such a firearm without needing an enchantment. All things considered, the development of firearms might be a greater boon to mages than mundanes.

Good point.  Uh... yeah, how about if we not follow that route. 

[Master Warder Z_]

According to Gaider's interview with Lady Insanity, that's not necessarily true.

 

@10:56

 

 

(i.e, Solas is a full mage who Vivienne is backwater hick.

 

All Gaider stated was what i already said on the subject, Hedge Magic is hedge magic.

 

._.

 

He just added in the Asunder bit where the former tranquil stated the "magic" came through expression and intent, rather then spells.

[thetinyevil]

And I think it's unlikely to the point of being nearly impossible.  So far I've heard of one non-mage being possessed by a pride demon and there is no information on how it happened.  You did say that it was easier for demons to possess non-mages than mages, yes?

I said it could be possible for to easier for mundane to be possessed then mages. I only say that because mundane have been taught they can't be possessed or even influenced demon that it is a mage problem only.

 

So it is possible that they wouldn't even realize what is happening until it is to late. Hell it happens to mages who even know about it and how to protect themselves. What chance does someone who isn't trained to protect themselves got if a demon decides "What the hell. Why not?". Not much. 

 

It is nearly impossible yes but still not completely impossible. 

[Willowhugger]

I admit to being intrigued by the speculation that Solas is going to point out that part of the problem so many mages have with spirits is that the terror and horror at the Fade taught to them by the Chantry is the reason so many demons come to them other than more benevolent spirits. It'd be an interesting twist on the situation that by instilling nothing but disgust for their own bodies and minds that they ultimately destroyed those they were trying to save.

 

*cough*gay metaphor*cough*

Or not.

:-)

[Hellion Rex]

There is no doubt spirits are immensely powerful. I mean just look at spirit healers who merely "flirt" with spirits. Wynne was quite powerful, she washed the floor with a pride demon. First none-PC character to be able to kill one thanks to faith. Even Anders was quite good before possession with Justice. He killed hundreds of Darkspawn single-handedly and he was named champion of vigil's keep if he lives, otherwise he fakes his death and leaves. Definitely choosing rift mage in Inquisition, and Templar fools be aware, spirit magic cannot be resisted. (gameplay rule).

I agree. I think Faith is the strongest spirit we have seen thus far. And yeah, Rift Mage ftw!

[MisterJB]

Its funny how terrible Templars are always good people, don't you think?

Oh? The goodness of placing the whole world in danger for the improvement in the lives of an already high class is very questionable.

 

Besides, you seem to be missing the lesson in Thrask's story. He believed mages could be trusted and he was killed by a mage he trusted.

 

[Master Warder Z_]

Solas is bald and by default evil.

 

He is not to be trusted.

 

Plus he is an elf!

 

And a Mage!

 

He's like all of Thedas's problems rolled up into one!

[Icy Magebane]

All Gaider stated was what i already said on the subject, Hedge Magic is hedge magic.

 

._.

 

He just added in the Asunder bit where the former tranquil stated the "magic" came through expression and intent, rather then spells.

 

Gaider also said that hedge mages can never learn formal spellcasting.  Unless Solas has an entirely unique set of spell trees, I think he's a bit different from the literal DA "hedge mage",  In every comment I've seen Gaider make on this topic, he seems to purposefully differentiate between hedge magic and disciplined magic.

[Br3admax]

Oh? The goodness of placing the whole world in danger for the improvement in the lives of an already high class is very questionable.

 

Besides, you seem to be missing the lesson in Thrask's story. He believed mages could be trusted and he was killed by a mage he trusted.

Speaking of which, where are those pictures you always show of the mages fighting for the freedom they wanted for so long? Those are always entertaining to show to the fanatics. 

[Willowhugger]

Solas is bald and by default evil.

 

He is not to be trusted.

 

Plus he is an elf!

 

And a Mage!

 

He's like all of Thedas's problems rolled up into one!

 

Cole, Solas, and Vivienne would make an interesting party.

 

Ditto Cole, Solas, and Cassandra.

 

Or some combination thereof.

[nagisa-aoi87]

I plan on siding with the mages of course as my Hawke was a mage as well

[nagisa-aoi87]

I plan on siding with the mages of course as my Hawke was a mage as well

[Master Warder Z_]

Gaider also said that hedge mages can never learn formal spellcasting.

 

There is that, which makes Morrigan a bit of an oddity don't it?

[Willowhugger]

Speaking of which, where are those pictures you always show of the mages fighting for the freedom they wanted for so long? Those are always entertaining to show to the fanatics. 

 

The hype for the Templar/Mage war is huge.

It's a pity nothing will be able to live up to it.

[Icy Magebane]

There is that, which makes Morrigan a bit of an oddity don't it?

Flemeth trained her.  Hedge mages are "primal" spellcasters with no formal training at all... they use magic intuitively and cannot learn to refocus it after a certain amount of time has passed.

[Hellion Rex]

Gaider also said that hedge mages can never learn formal spellcasting.  Unless Solas has an entirely unique set of spell trees, I think he's a bit different from the literal DA "hedge mage",  In every comment I've seen Gaider make on this topic, he seems to purposefully differentiate between hedge magic and disciplined magic.

And we see Solas using normal spells in the Gamescom demo so...

[Willowhugger]

There is that, which makes Morrigan a bit of an oddity don't it?

 

To be fair, we don't know whether Flemeth ever studied with the Circles.

 

Her Grimoire is in one after all.

 

But yes, Magic seems to be something of a customizable thing.

[Willowhugger]

Flemeth trained her.  Hedge mages are "primal" spellcasters with no formal training at all... they use magic intuitively and cannot learn to refocus it after a certain amount of time has passed.

Yes, they're Sorcerers.

Circle Mages are Wizards.

*rolls dice*

[Master Warder Z_]

Speaking of which, where are those pictures you always show of the mages fighting for the freedom they wanted for so long? Those are always entertaining to show to the fanatics. 

 

You mean like this?

 

[Hellion Rex]

To be fair, we don't know whether Flemeth ever studied with the Circles.

Doesn't matter. You don't have to study with the Dalish or the Circles to become a full mage. Flemeth is a full mage, Morrigan is a full mage, and Solas is a full mage.

[raging_monkey]

And we see Solas using normal spells in the Gamescom demo so...

gamplay segregation

[Master Warder Z_]

Flemeth trained her.

 

Who pointedly stated her training was nothing like the circle

 

And yet it produced similar results, this was likely done for gameplay reasons mind you but, its still interesting.

[Icy Magebane]

gamplay segregation

I doubt it... if they are willing to go that far they may as well not even come up with a concept like "hedge mages."  I don't approve of that kind of sloppiness, especially when a unique set of "hedge mage" spell trees would have been so much fun to play around with.

[Br3admax]

You mean like this?

 

 

No, funnier because it shows the Templars demolishing the mages in the Gallows. That was just sad.