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[Oohforf]

Does it have to be exactly one or the other?

 

The mages deserve to be treated like living beings who breathe, love and die like any other. 

 

The institution of the templars should remain, but things must change.

[RobRam10]

It's starting...... I can feel it in my eyes.....

[raging_monkey]

It's starting...... I can feel it in my eyes.....

nah Z's a moderate templar we have time

[Master Warder Z_]

Like the fact that mages control the Circle and who is allowed to leave, not the Templars. You think Meredith allowed Orsino to walk the streets? 

 

Filthy blood mages strolling around like they own the place...

[Kimberly]

Except in the exact opposite of that situation he still allows it, even when Wynne would likely been far more useful back at the circle.

I honestly think people forget bits of lore when it comes to this subject when it disagrees with their own notions on it.

Yes he allowed it, he didn't have to. If he had said sorry Wynne, you have to stay and help, the first enchanter would not have been able to do anything about it.

[Master Warder Z_]

Yes he allowed it, he didn't have to.

 

Considering that in that situation the circle is annulled and the first enchanter dead?

 

Yes The Knight Commander would be the defacto head of the circle.

 

There isn't anything illegal about that.

[TTTX]

If I have the option both.

 

Both are needed in this time of need, now is not a time of fighting, but a time of unity.

[WillieStyle]

"Mages vs. Templars" is a false choice, as Knight-Commander Meredith makes clear.  It should be sane people everywhere against people driven mad by the thirst for magical power.  

 

I never understood why there was so much emphasis on vigilantly watching mages.  It's not as though abominations are inconspicuous.  Demonic possession is a disease with an exceedingly brief incubation period and VERY obvious symptoms.  Just seek-out and quarantine the infected instead of imprisoning entire high-risk populations, while entirely ignoring others (e.g. red lyrium aficionados).

[Kimberly]

Considering that in that situation the circle is annulled and the first enchanter dead?
 
Yes The Knight Commander would be the defacto head of the circle.
 
There isn't anything illegal about that.

I didn't realize we were discussing the first enchanter was dead. He was never dead in any of my PTs. Still stand by my comments. The circle is not independent of the chantry like they say in DAO. Gregor would have the final say even with the first enchanter alive.

[thetinyevil]

I always play as a mage and I always side with the mages, so i'll be doing the same in DAI

 

 

Just love this! 

[AlexiaRevan]

"Mages vs. Templars" is a false choice, as Knight-Commander Meredith makes clear.  It should be sane people everywhere against people driven mad by the thirst for magical power.  

 

I never understood why there was so much emphasis on vigilantly watching mages.  It's not as though abominations are inconspicuous.  Demonic possession is a disease with an exceedingly brief incubation period and VERY obvious symptoms.  Just seek-out and quarantine the infected instead of imprisoning entire high-risk populations, while entirely ignoring others (e.g. red lyrium aficionados).

So is thirst for control . Therefor the Templar should be put in a circle like and watched by normal folk . 

[Master Warder Z_]

I didn't realize we were discussing the first enchanter was dead. He was never dead in any of my PTs. Still stand by my comments. The circle is not independent of the chantry like they say in DAO. Gregor would have the final say even with the first enchanter alive.

 

In the scenario were discussing Knight Commander Gregoir assumes command after the circle was annulled, he still allowed Wynne to accompany the Warden even when he did state she would be more of use at the circle.

 

He did this because she was a senior enchanter and trusted to leave the circle to fight the blight, even though he could have insisted or ordered otherwise.

 

And your comments are incorrect, Gregoir even admits as such: The Templars guard and advise but the first enchanter has final say.

[DeityDi]

I always play as a mage and I always side with the mages, so i'll be doing the same in DAI

 

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Lol, that gif pops up in my mind almost every time when I hear the word "mages" on BSN. 

[TTTX]

Pro-mages... Please, please stop using Orsino to justify your arguments. The man colluded with a serial killing necromancer and transformed into a giant blood magic fueled flesh golem. You're not going to win any arguments this way.

 

This is the type of **** that makes me reconsider my moderately Pro-mage stance.

Both Orsino and Meredith deserved to die.

[KaiserShep]

Yeah if I was gonna use a mage as an example of anything positive, I wouldn't use Orsino.

[DeityDi]

Siding with the Templar is the only sane course of action in this situation.

Uh-huh. 

Except I don't roleplay self-hating, miserable and pathetic good-for-nothing mages like Wynne and Bethany, thank you very much.

[Kimberly]

Pro-mages... Please, please stop using Orsino to justify your arguments. The man colluded with a serial killing necromancer and transformed into a giant blood magic fueled flesh golem. You're not going to win any arguments this way.
 
This is the type of **** that makes me reconsider my moderately Pro-mage stance.

I hated both Orsina and Merideth in DA2. I always side with the mages. Every time I do, Orsino makes me wish I did side with the Templars. I can never though cause Merideth is bat s*it crazy. If the idol hadn't changed her that drastically, I may have sided with her, but then it would have been a different story.

[Master Warder Z_]

Uh-huh. 

Except I don't roleplay self-hating, miserable and pathetic good-for-nothing mages like Wynne and Bethany, thank you very much.

 

That is your failing then.

[raging_monkey]

Pro-mages... Please, please stop using Orsino to justify your arguments. The man colluded with a serial killing necromancer and transformed into a giant blood magic fueled flesh golem. You're not going to win any arguments this way. This is the type of **** that makes me reconsider my moderately Pro-mage stance.

same

[TTTX]

Yeah if I was gonna use a mage as an example of anything positive, I wouldn't use Orsino.

Irving is a better choice.

[thetinyevil]

Uh-huh. 

Except I don't roleplay self-hating, miserable and pathetic good-for-nothing mages like Wynne and Bethany, thank you very much.

I wish I could like this more than once!!       

[Master Warder Z_]

I wish I could like this more than once!!       

 

How odd,it makes me wish the forums had a dislike option.

[DeityDi]

That is your failing then.

That is my mage pride. 

[Elfquisitor]

Templars.No one should wield such power without atleast someone to make sure that mages won't abuse it.