this had better not be human... i stepped inMy popcorn bucket is posed and waiting to be flipped once the fighting becomes more intense. But to add more flame to the fire..... BLOOD MAGIC
magneto didnt help my friendMages.I understand why the Templars do what they do, though.Which leaves me wondering whether I want to be merciful for my DA:I playthrough or Mageneto.
She was not a mage. It is stated several times
By sources that were obviously corrupted by the blood mage in question.
Accept them as you will, i however don't view their testimony as worth much.
I don't take that with much accuracy considering the lady in question was a blood mage who could have easily ensorcered her daughter to remember whatever she wanted her to remember.
Wait what? What evidence is there that Lady Harimann was a blood mage?!
Wait what? What evidence is there that Lady Harimann was a blood mage?!
http://dragonage.wik...Johane_Harimann
Points out that quite clearly on her specialization, she also used it in combat.
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http://dragonage.wik...Johane_Harimann
Points out that quite clearly on her specialization, she also used it in combat.
Gameplay story segregation. She was certainly a "Blood Mage". There's no questioning that. But was she a mage or capable of casting spells before having dealt with the Desire Demon?
Gameplay story segregation. She was certainly a "Blood Mage". There's no questioning that. But was she a mage or capable of casting spells before having dealt with the Desire Demon?
As i said there was nothing to indicate that one way or another, The devs never said a word on it to my knowledge.
However given she is a blood mage, i dismiss what her daughter stated, and assumed she was a mage all along.
That's the line of thought i follow.
First of all, hello everyone, I am a new member in this community and I hope we will have fun here. I played Dragon Age Origins (great game) on 360, I played Dragon Age 2 (not so great...) on PC and now I have Dragon Age Inquisition preordered for the PS4. One thing: I am not a native english speaker, I will be asking for forgiveness for my bad english a lot of times so please, keep that in mind if you come across gramatical errors on my post
Now with the thread´s topic: Mages. I make a Mage character and go with the mages on my first playthrought of DA games: I went with them on Dragon Age Origins, I sided with them on Dragon Age 2 and I will side with them again as a human male Mage Inquisitor in Dragon Age Inquisition and do my best to wipe out the Templars and the Chantry if possible for the freedom of mages. I hope the game offers us the choice to side with either of them and for the different outcomes of that the decision to play out, well, differently, affecting the world of our game.
One of the things I really love of Dragon Age lore is everything related with mages, magic (specially Blood Magic), the Veil and the demons/spirits. I hope this conflict plays a big role in Inquisition and that we are allowed to either support Templars and wipe out Blood Mages, take the "preventive" stand and wipe out almost all mages (something like the purge of Meredith) or side with Mages and support only the freedom of "good" mages and teachings, support all Mages and teachings including Blood Mages/Magic and even make bargains with demons (similar to the Desire Demon of DAO or Topor in DA2). It seems like one of our companions, Solas, has a lot of knowledge about the Veil, strange abilities related to it and he is able to freely move around there in some kind of lucid dreams and take one person (us) with him, so I am sure we will know more about it on DA Inquisition.
I make my first playthrough of any game is as a 'good' person, hence I can only ever bring myself to side with the mages. I side with the Templars on my brash, violent, uncaring, renegade playthroughs.
Gameplay story segregation. She was certainly a "Blood Mage". There's no questioning that. But was she a mage or capable of casting spells before having dealt with the Desire Demon?
You can't turn someone into a mage, and you can't just come into contact with a demon. It doesn't work that way.
http://dragonage.wik...Johane_Harimann
Points out that quite clearly on her specialization, she also used it in combat.
I don't find the meta-gaming "specialization" tag on an unofficial wiki page particularly convincing And citing her combat skills as evidence she was a blood mage is somewhat circular. The question is, can non-mages be possessed and granted magical powers by demons. Given that question, an example of a demon-possessed person using magical powers cannot be dis-positive. To assume that Lady Harimann was a mage is to beg the question.
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As i said there was nothing to indicate that one way or another, The devs never said a word on it to my knowledge.
However given she is a blood mage, i dismiss what her daughter stated, and assumed she was a mage all along.
That's the line of thought i follow.
Damn, the devs really need to answer that one. It would give a lot of insight to both sides of the Mage-Templar argument.
Inquisition should be about siding with either or making a new treaty that pleases both parties as they do seem to want peace hence the summit.
DA2 didn't have peace as an option because many factors, such as the idol making Meredith even more cray cray/Anders//dead Grand Cleric/incompetent Orsino, took that off the table.
Now that heads are "somewhat" cooler the Inquisitor, with Hawke's help and reputation, could forge a long term peace between Templars and Mages.
is to beg the question.
No **** i just stated it was my own line of thought.
But she did demonstrated blood magical abilities, so the accuracy of what those under her thrall can recall is suspect to me.
Beyond that, there was never any indicator from the people who can actually CAN confirm this if she was or wasn't.
Believe as you will.
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You can't turn someone into a mage, and you can't just come into contact with a demon. It doesn't work that way.
According to her daughter you can. Maybe she enthralled her daughter to say that as per Warder's suspicion, but there's insufficient information either way. The devs are the only ones that can answer that one. Who wrote Sebastian's arc and missions?
According to her daughter you can. Maybe she enthralled her daughter to say that as per Warder's suspicion, but there's insufficient information either way. The devs are the only ones that can answer that one. Who wrote Sebastian's arc and missions?
Her daughter>literally everything else we know about mages now?
Damn, the devs really need to answer that one. It would give a lot of insight to both sides of the Mage-Templar argument.
Indeed, but we do know that spirits and demons and alike can already empower normal men.
But granting magic... i don't know.
That seems to be something far above just a plain old regular desire demon, that sounds like something you would want to ask of an elder pride demon.
hello rigron really glad your part of the BSN now dont mind the heated disscussion. its usualy not this heatedFirst of all, hello everyone, I am a new member in this community and I hope we will have fun here. I played Dragon Age Origins (great game) on 360, I played Dragon Age 2 (not so great...) on PC and now I have Dragon Age Inquisition preordered for the PS4. One thing: I am not a native english speaker, I will be asking for forgiveness for my bad english a lot of times so please, keep that in mind if you come across gramatical errors on my post
Now with the thread´s topic: Mages. I make a Mage character and go with the mages on my first playthrought of DA games: I went with them on Dragon Age Origins, I sided with them on Dragon Age 2 and I will side with them again as a human male Mage Inquisitor in Dragon Age Inquisition and do my best to wipe out the Templars and the Chantry if possible for the freedom of mages. I hope the game offers us the choice to side with either of them and for the different outcomes of that the decision to play out, well, differently, affecting the world of our game.
One of the things I really love of Dragon Age lore is everything related with mages, magic (specially Blood Magic), the Veil and the demons/spirits. I hope this conflict plays a big role in Inquisition and that we are allowed to either support Templars and wipe out Blood Mages, take the "preventive" stand and wipe out almost all mages (something like the purge of Meredith) or side with Mages and support only the freedom of "good" mages and teachings, support all Mages and teachings including Blood Mages/Magic and even make bargains with demons (similar to the Desire Demon of DAO or Topor in DA2). It seems like one of our companions, Solas, has a lot of knowledge about the Veil, strange abilities related to it and he is able to freely move around there in some kind of lucid dreams and take one person (us) with him, so I am sure we will know more about it on DA Inquisition.
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Her daughter>literally everything else we know about mages now?
She said that no one in their line had magic. I'd expect she'd recognize if her mother was an untrained mage in hiding. Common sense.
According to her daughter you can. Maybe she enthralled her daughter to say that as per Warder's suspicion, but there's insufficient information either way. The devs are the only ones that can answer that one. Who wrote Sebastian's arc and missions?
I remember her daughter saying "we've never had magic in our line," and not actually answering the question we asked her. The idea of a non-mage being able to cast spells... advanced blood magic at that... is a bit far-fetched to me. I'd like to hear what the devs have to say, since this contradicts everything we know about magic and the Fade.
Gameplay story segregation. She was certainly a "Blood Mage". There's no questioning that. But was she a mage or capable of casting spells before having dealt with the Desire Demon?
My theory was she's a hedge mage. As we see with Connor, nobility "opting out" of the Circle isn't uncommon.
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I remember her daughter saying "we've never had magic in our line," and not actually answering the question we asked her. The idea of a non-mage being able to cast spells... advanced blood magic at that... is a bit far-fetched to me. I'd like to here what the devs have to say, since this contradicts everything we know about magic and the Fade.
The Old Gods did teach Darinius blood magic. So there's that. Perhaps a particularly powerful Desire Demon can actually grant a non-mage blood magic specifically if that's what they wanted or needed to achieve a greater goal.
Why all these emphatic claims that non-mages cannot be granted magical powers? Did Knight-commander Meredith use "magic" in the final fight of DA:2?
She said that no one in their line had magic. I'd expect she'd recognize if her mother was an untrained mage in hiding. Common sense.
Just like Eamon? Nah, friend, if you're untrained it's quite easy to hide your magic. Magic can also appear in bloodlines it was not in before, so that doesn't really mean anything.
The Old Gods did teach Darinius blood magic. So there's that. Perhaps a particularly powerful Desire Demon can actually grant someone blood magic specifically if that's what they wanted or needed to achieve a greater goal.
Humans already had the capacity to use magic, they just didn't know how to. Dumat didn't personally grant every magister the ability to use magic. He taught one, and then he taught more.
I have a very simple view of the Templar vs. Mage situation.
My view?
"I fully support mages but it's often very hard to do so when I keep having to kill them because so many of them are evil [censored]. I think between Hawke and the Warden, they've killed more Abominations and Mages than the Templar Order as a whole in a year."
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