If the mages can close broken veils of this magnitude than why did Bioware say the inquisitor was the only one who can do it? In fact the inquisitors ability to do so is the sole reason he is the leader.
I forgot there is a difference between a tear and a rift, my mistake.
Eh, mages as a whole don't have enough raw power to combat demons.
Only the Inquisitor can close rifts. These don't work the same as the Tears in the Veil from before. As Templars can combat demons better than mages, there's no reason to prefer them over the Templars either.
I think that depends on the skills on the Mage and the Templar.
I think that depends on the skills on the Mage and the Templar.
Not really. Templars are selected for duty and trained to combat abominations. Everyone born that can lift a sword can't be a Templar. Whereas every person with a hint of magic is a mage.
Not really. Templars are selected for duty and trained to combat abominations. Everyone born that can lift a sword can't be a Templar. Whereas every person with a hint of magic is a mage.
Not every person with a hint of magic is relevant in a situation where demons have the run of the setting except insofar as the demons would slightly prefer a host with a hint of magic to a complete muggle.
Not every person with a hint of magic is relevant in a situation where demons have the run of the setting except insofar as the demons would slightly prefer a host with a hint of magic to a complete muggle.
We are talking about who would do better against demons not who is more likely to become an abomination or "host".
We are talking about who would do better against demons not who is more likely to become an abomination or "host".
That's what I'm talking about too. You can have enough magic to be a mage and not do well against demons.
Not every person with a hint of magic is relevant in a situation where demons have the run of the setting except insofar as the demons would slightly prefer a host with a hint of magic to a complete muggle.
Considering they don't possess "muggles" that view doesn't have much impact.
Not every person with a hint of magic is relevant in a situation where demons have the run of the setting except insofar as the demons would slightly prefer a host with a hint of magic to a complete muggle.
Except there are more Templars than mages to begin with. Their curve is more skewed toward efficiency than the mages'.
Not really. Templars are selected for duty and trained to combat abominations. Everyone born that can lift a sword can't be a Templar. Whereas every person with a hint of magic is a mage.
Now, Now people we should discuss the topic reasonably.
But that said i have another topic i think we should discuss.
Ander's lack of exploding, I mean he was an abomination, he did die, but he didn't explode! It was wrong!
8:52-9:18 for the relevant bit.
I wanted a dramatic explosion!
The only requirement for becoming a Templar is wanting to become one. It can take up to ten years for a reason, some start from absolute zero.
Lulz. No it's not. Templars have to go through many tests and steps to reach knighthood.
Lulz. No it's not. Templars have to go through many tests and steps to reach knighthood.
Plus you figure training to be a warrior from scratch takes a while.
Lulz. No it's not. Templars have to go through many tests and steps to reach knighthood.
Cullen mentions the greatest danger during these "tests" is falling asleep. It figures. Its difficult but everyone can do it, some sooner some later.
That's actually not what Cullen says. He said before reaching full knighthood they must hold a vigil. That is not the only thing they do to become Templars.
Lulz. No it's not. Templars have to go through many tests and steps to reach knighthood.
Yeah it takes training, but pretty everyone can become a recruit. It doesn't mean that anyone will reach full knighthood.
Considering they don't possess "muggles" that view doesn't have much impact.
The idea of the post I was responding to as I understood it was that all mages are worth something in a fight. The main point to my response was that that's not true. Combine that with the small number of mages, and it's really only the raw power of the mages that are worth something that makes the mages a good bet.
I think that depends on the skills on the Mage and the Templar.
There is some basis in lore that strengthens the argument that Templars are better to combat demons. The codex entry on Pride Demons claims they have learned to disrupt spellcasting.
There is some basis in lore that strengthens the argument that Templars are better to combat demons. The codex entry on Pride Demons claims they have learned to disrupt spellcasting.
Perhaps, but Pride demons are the top tier of demons (for now), and they seem to be much rarer. Otherwise, I'd say mages and Templars are on even ground, more or less, when fighting demons. Mages have a lot more ways to attack a demon, but templars have a strong, singular way to attack demons.
There is some basis in lore that strengthens the argument that Templars are better to combat demons. The codex entry on Pride Demons claims they have learned to disrupt spellcasting.
It also implies that the use of mage support in fights against demons is standard enough to be worth specifically warning against it against this type.
It also implies that the use of mage support in fights against demons is standard enough to be worth specifically warning against it against this type.
It mentions not to bother bringing them.
Hardly a ringing endorsement.
It mentions not to bother bringing them.
Hardly a ringing endorsement.
Doesn't sound like Templars have that much luck either:
"Fire they will use to burn an opponent, and the magical flame will combust anything you wear regardless of make. Ice they will use to freeze an opponent in place—be cautious, for they enjoy employing this against warriors in particular." --- doesn't sound like Pride demon magic is easy to negate by templar abilities
Doesn't sound like Templars have that much luck either:
"Fire they will use to burn an opponent, and the magical flame will combust anything you wear regardless of make. Ice they will use to freeze an opponent in place—be cautious, for they enjoy employing this against warriors in particular." --- doesn't sound like Pride demon magic is easy to negate by templar abilities
Least a sword will still kill them if they bleed enough.
Magic is worthless against them.
Least a sword will still kill them if they bleed enough.
Magic is worthless against them.
Unless the tank's actively bleeding out or the demon's standing below a weakly supported cliff-face. Edit: Or the Pride Demon summons mooks that don't have its own magical power and versatility.
now with that out the way, according to a post a page or two back we are bringing in both the Templars and mages into the Inquisitor fold.
If this is true how do you feel about it?
I'm doubtful that will be the case, considering what Cameron Lee said about being able to side with either the mages or the templars to bring the war to an end, as well as the recent Skyhold interview where it mentioned choosing between mages or templars during the war, and a particular outcome taking place based on that decision. Which sounds much more appealing to me than forcing the mages and templars into a compromise, which I highly doubt is necessary to resolve the Breach.
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