Though, you can't deny that blood magic seems to resonate with demons when used, regardless of its actual source.
It does, yes. That's why I'm not trying to argue that the usual forms of blood magic are a good choice of weapon against them. (Though I am wondering if they can't be used to injure demons using the environment. Maybe if a demon's fighting under a cliff-face. Though if you have any mana or lyrium left you should probably use that instead.)
Yes in the story. Anders kills hundreds of darkspawn all by himself, he was the only apostate in the keep and all the corpses near him had no sign of weapon wound, all fell by magic. He actually becomes hero of vigil's keep. And this is before merging with Justice, imagine his power then.
Velanna actually commits mass murder but it doesn't change the fact that no one but the PC can stop her.
None of that was hundreds of anything. You're just pulling numbers out of nowhere now. Anders also wasn't alone during that entire time.
This is the similarity between blood and Lyrium were talking about earlier, one hungers for blood the other Lyrium. They want to "harvest" it.
Again, you add nothing but your opinion.
You are stretching lol, a mage supporter Hawke is utter enemies with Cullen, the dialogue is actually there. I enjoyed watching templars wet their pants here I actually took screenshots:
Except Hawke calls them old friends and Cullen agrees. Your opinion of how they should act towards each other means nothing. Like less than nothing. At least empty space has a use.
The wet their pants, I just love it how the game focuses on Cullen's foot steps backwards :
I had it personally confirmed by asking David Gaider on the old forums, while usually mages are not united there have been no such alliance between mages like these since many years ago and the war is pretty balanced. We shouldn't underestimate any side.
The war isn't balanced at all. The mages are being utterly destroyed and are at the end of their rope.
You can come up with any bullshit puseudo-science claim as to an explanation, yet fail to realize it is magic and doesn't follow any such rules.
The advantages a blood mage has over Templars, is NOT that Templars can't reisst the spells. They are that a Templar cannot prevent the mage from casting spells, and that the spells he casts can be more powerful than usual. Those are the advantages.
Except no one wet their pants. Cullen let Hawke go out of respect, which you keep trying to ignore. He respects Hawke as the Champion of the Kirkwall. It's not that hard to see why he let them go.
The war isn't balanced at all. The mages are being utterly destroyed and are at the end of their rope.
First paragraph: having watched the scene myself, I can assure you there's a healthy amount of fear mixed with that respect.
Second paragraph: I think the head writer's probably a better person to ask than you.
First paragraph: having watched the scene myself, I can assure you there's a healthy amount of fear mixed with that respect.
Second paragraph: I think the head writer's probably a better person to ask than you.
I've seen the scene, and it's not really fear that Hawke will decimate the entire Templar army.
The head writer allowed a book to be published that shows every single Circle falling to the Templars. He's not saying what the poster I quoted said.
Velanna actually commits mass murder but it doesn't change the fact that no one but the PC can stop her.
I've seen the scene, and it's not really fear that Hawke will decimate the entire Templar army.
The head writer allowed a book to be published that shows every single Circle falling to the Templars. He's not saying what the poster I quoted said.
I'm not saying Hawke can destroy the entire Templar army. I'm saying Cullen found himself standing right next to the man who has just killed a sizable chunk of it and can kill another sizable chunk if forced to. Starting with Cullen.
Apparently several thousand mages escape, though. It's a slow start, but once the mages get control of a fortress meant to keep people out instead of in, and have time to plan a defense of it, things might turn around. If Gaider said anything like what that poster said, that's probably what he meant.
Actually there is, Ferelden circle incident, codex. Blood magic can only be reverted by blood magic itself, like the time where Hawke's sibling is unconscious and only blood magic can awaken them.
The Ferelden Circle where we come across mind controlled Templars, and multiple DEAD Templars who must presumably have resisted the spell.
None of the codex entries regarding Blood Magic states that it can't be resisted by Templars.
And there is no proof that only Blood Magic could awaken the captive. Only that Blood Magic was the resource most readily at hand which could.
Blood Magic is not an unbeatable force, that only other Blood Magic can beat. Despite what utter fallacies you try to spread about it.
None of that was hundreds of anything. You're just pulling numbers out of nowhere now. Anders also wasn't alone during that entire time.
Again, you add nothing but your opinion.
Except Hawke calls them old friends and Cullen agrees. Your opinion of how they should act towards each other means nothing. Like less than nothing. At least empty space has a use.
Except no one wet their pants. Cullen let Hawke go out of respect, which you keep trying to ignore. He respects Hawke as the Champion of the Kirkwall. It's not that hard to see why he let them go.
The war isn't balanced at all. The mages are being utterly destroyed and are at the end of their rope.
I'm not saying Hawke can destroy the entire Templar army. I'm saying Cullen found himself standing right next to the man who has just killed a sizable chunk of it and can kill another sizable chunk if forced to. Starting with Cullen.
Apparently several thousand mages escape, though. It's a slow start, but once the mages get control of a fortress meant to keep people out instead of in, and have time to plan a defense of it, things might turn around. If Gaider said anything like what that poster said, that's probably what he meant.
1) I get what you mean, but that is what Lulupab is saying.
2) It could, but as of now, the War is hardly even.
Mages don't enter the Fade every time they cast a spell. I have no idea where you're getting that from. They channel mana, yes, but they don't eventer the Fade. The use of blood magic also comes from demonic power and attracts demons. There's no way to escape it with any form of magic.
http://dragonage.wik...he_Use_of_Magic
"All men are connected to the Fade; we go there to dream. But only those with this potential may draw upon its power. Mana is, then, the measurement of one's ability to draw power from the Fade, and it is this power that is expended in magic."
When you tap into the fade, you're entering it with your mind. You're stepping halfway between the fade and physical world. That's how casting works in DA IIRC. Its mentioned in the wiki: "The act of drawing from the Fade can draw the attention of spiritual beings on the other side of the veil, leading to an increased risk of demonic possession if the mages are not vigilant enough." - http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Mage
When you cast, you can draw the attention of demons. That's why blood magic is considered the only free form of magic - it isn't tied to the fade at all.
http://dragonage.wik...(Dragon_Age_II)
"[...] this specialization isn't limited to mad men and monsters. Many see it as the only form of magic that is truly free, because its tied to the physical, not favors to spirits or demons."
once the mages get control of a fortress meant to keep people out instead of in, and have time to plan a defense of it, things might turn around.
The Ferelden Circle where we come across mind controlled Templars, and multiple DEAD Templars who must presumably have resisted the spell.
None of the codex entries regarding Blood Magic states that it can't be resisted by Templars.
And there is no proof that only Blood Magic could awaken the captive. Only that Blood Magic was the resource most readily at hand which could.
Blood Magic is not an unbeatable force, that only other Blood Magic can beat. Despite what utter fallacies you try to spread about it.
Ah an original BSN troll, I actually remember your type of arguing. You don't even remember what happens in the game and therefore you are not equipped to participate in this argument.
I'm playing Awakening right now, actually. Please continue while you act like Anders somehow took down a fort of darkspawn, while being surrounded by five corpses, and then claim it to be hundreds. Go on.
Dragon age Awakening epilogue: If left to defend the Keep, Anders will be hailed a hero by the few survivors of Vigil's Keep by using his magic to hold off hundreds of darkspawn. None were touched with a blade, but all were felled by magic. He gets invited by the men to engage in a drinking contest. He loses.
It doesn't say that at all. It says that they held out for days, but Anders was found struck through the throat with an arrow. He was however surrounded by darkspawn. None numbered in the hundreds. Continue.
Also in that conversation with Cullen there are three dialogue options, the last one literally tells him to shut up and points out the abuse mages face in Kirkwall. So no, you can become friendly with Cullen or you can hate his guts, the choice is there and friendship is not forced.
Exiting conversation with Cullen has Hawke saying that s/he just wanted to catch up with an old friend. It's too bad that when people disagree they don't just flat out hate each other. But as before, continue.
Its not only Cullen, all the Templars walk back and fear Hawke at the sight of him. Just look at them, that's not combat stance, that's cowering. It speaks volumes.
I mean you didn't get this before, but I'll just say it again. The few Templars shown there was not the entire Order's presence in Kirkwall. Meredith already stated more were on the way, they were just moving through the City, as the battle had obviously spread there. Of course, you'll still continue.
nice b8 m8 I r8 8/10. Except I value a writer's word over a BSN troll, especially one that thinks a few Templars can bring down Hawke. Even Cameron Lee have said that mages can bring down an army ten their size if the said army decides to attack Andoral's reach and before you deny this like you blindly deny everything else check the interview before embarrassing yourself.
It's not my opinion as a "troll" it's a fact stated in game, in an Asunder quote in this thread, and shown in some of the DA:I art. The Templars are trained soldiers who are specialised in combat that can handle mages. Most mages are just normal people with an abnormal trait. They can't compete as they are now.
Can't a Hawke trained in Templar skills break Idunna's blood magic hold over him/her?
http://dragonage.wik...he_Use_of_Magic
"All men are connected to the Fade; we go there to dream. But only those with this potential may draw upon its power. Mana is, then, the measurement of one's ability to draw power from the Fade, and it is this power that is expended in magic."
When you tap into the fade, you're entering it with your mind. You're stepping halfway between the fade and physical world. That's how casting works in DA IIRC. I think Rhys mention it in Asunder. When you cast, you can draw the attention of demons. That's why blood magic is considered the only free form of magic - it isn't tied to the fade at all.
That doesn't mean they enter the Fade every time they cast a spell. Otherwise, mages like Feynriel wouldn't be such a big deal. They tap into the energy from there, they do not go there.
Was there new information released detailing the progression of the Mage/Templar war that I missed?
First of all I never said its unbeatable, lets just put that in light. The codex says no one has ever been able to resist mind control without the help of the The Litany of Adralla. Quote "it disrupts the casting of mind control spells. Use the Litany whenever a creature tries to dominate another with magic, and it will interrupt the casting. Once the spell is in effect and a character is under a blood mage's power, it is too late."
That is not AT ALL what the entry says... it says that once the spell is in effect then it the Litany is useless. It says NOTHING about wether a mind control spell can be resisted in the first place, or for that matter be shaken off by the subject on his own.
ALL the entry specifies is the proper use of the Litany.
Can't a Hawke trained in Templar skills break Idunna's blood magic hold over him/her?
I don't think so. Only a mage Hawke can break the spell innately, I believe.
I don't think so. Only a mage Hawke can break the spell innately, I believe.
Alright then. I haven't tried it myself and simply looked at the Wiki cause I heard it mentioned before: http://dragonage.wik...nemies_Among_Us
That doesn't mean they enter the Fade every time they cast a spell. Otherwise, mages like Feynriel wouldn't be such a big deal. They tap into the energy from there, they do not go there.
Its not the same talent Dreamers have and its not the same thing as fully entering the Fade. All standard spell casting requires a mage draw power from the Fade and then expend it in the physical world. That's not the same thing as leaving your body to enter the Fade while lucid or without the aid of lyrium.
I don't think so. Only a mage Hawke can break the spell innately, I believe.
Every Hawke can break the spell. However only a mage Hawke can break the spell and not kill Idunna while doing so. A rogue or warrior Hawke has to have another mage along with him in the party.
Every Hawke can break the spell. However only a mage Hawke can break the spell and not kill Idunna while doing so. A rogue or warrior Hawke has to have another mage along with him in the party.
Yep. Hawke and the Warden just have enough willpower to not be completely vulnerable to bloodmagic. Special PC willpower roll 
Yep. Hawke and the Warden just have enough willpower to not be completely vulnerable to bloodmagic. Special PC willpower roll
Technically any of the mages Hawke brings along for that quest exhibit the same trait. It pretty much proves that Blood Magic isn't all-powerful.
Technically any of the mages Hawke brings along for that quest exhibit the same trait. It pretty much proves that Blood Magic isn't all-powerful.
True. Either that or Idunna was really sucky with it.
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