How about this? Jowan could have taken down Idunna.
Goddamn. Harsh. No bloodmage is that bad.
lol... I don't know about all that. Jowan would probably trip and fall while attempting to use the murder knife, gutting himself in the process.
Yeah this seems more likely XD or summon a demon horde that feasts on Kirkwall.
summon a demon horde that feasts on Kirkwall.
Strangely, I am ok with this outcome!
It's not entering the Fade at all. It's just using energy from there. Like I said.
Its not "just using energy from there". Tapping into the fade is more vigorous than that. It isn't entering the fade as you narrowly understand it. Involuntary possession wouldn't be a concern at all if mages "just used energy from there" and had no other interaction with the fade. There would be no fear of a mage coming to the attention of a demon. Drawing from the fade requires a presence of mind in the realm, and a mage's presence, even brief, attracts demons. Blood magic does not carry that risk, thus its safer.
Yeah this seems more likely XD or summon a demon horde that feasts on Kirkwall.
If being infested with demons was enough to destroy Kirkwall you'd think DA2 would never happened.
Yeah this seems more likely XD or summon a demon horde that feasts on Kirkwall.
Oh brother... I don't even want to imagine what could happen if he actually attempted to use magic against her. Either Jowan dies from blood loss when he overestimates the strength needed to cut himself, or the Veil is sundered... well, at least the Rose should have lots of city guards and mercenaries hanging around to act as cannon fodder while somebody runs to the Gallows to get help from the Templars.
Yeah i've decided i'm going to destroy both templars mages and red templars which should weaken the chantry no chantry aloud in my inquisition and if i have the option lelina and cassandra can go and do one as well.
Your Inquisition doesn't depend on your alliances with Chantry and you are going to need people to fight for you, now isn't the time to picky if you want to save the world.
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Throwing Jowan into Kirkwall is kind of like lighting a cigarette while pumping gas. If he is alive I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he inadvertently caused the Rift when he tried to make himself tranquil.
Its not "just using energy from there". Tapping into the fade is more vigorous than that. It isn't entering the fade as you narrowly understand it. Involuntary possession wouldn't be a concern at all if mages "just used energy from there" and had no other interaction with the fade. There would be no fear a mage coming to the attention of a demon. Drawing from the fade requires a presence of mind in the realm, and a mage's presence, even brief, attracts demons. Blood magic does not carry that risk, thus its safer.
If this were true, wouldn't we see a large number of violent incidents involving demons within the Circles? Those mages cast spells with lyrium only. The fact that the Veil isn't inadvertently torn within the Circles from time to time should tell you that lyrium based spellcasting is quite safe.
I think the one the mages are in is made out of rock.
Every castle has supporting structures made out of wood and it's not mainly the flames that kill, it's the carbon monoxide
Yes, but can the flames reach those structures?
"Hey, Saruman, Gandalf likes you." *blows self up along with fortress*
Your Inquisition doesn't depend on your alliances with Chantry and you are going to need people to fight for you, now isn't the time to picky if you want to save the world.
I guess I join with the mages then I just really think that the chantry needs to go (so does the qun) they are evil they destroy and they betray (elves) they think that there better then everyone, they abuse there power and the only reason mages use blood magic is because they back them into a corner so they are forced to protect themselves. The maker does not exist.
Yes, but can the flames reach those structures?
Personally I prefer mages, so that of course reflects in my play style although I still try to keep some variety.
I will have an extreme and chaotic mage character who will believe in freedom > safety no matter the cost and side with mages.
I will have a more neutral, compromising mage character who still has some loyalty to the circle and what she comes across in the game will end up influencing her decisions.
I will have a cynical rogue who thinks they are all stupid and crazy, and will side with whatever brings her more personal gain in the situation.
If the game ends up having enough replay value, I might even eventually make my first pro-templar run if I think I can make myself enjoy it, but for now I only have pro mage and neutral characters planned.
The floor is most likely, laid out with wood or made out of wood in many parts of the castle and so are the roofbeams.
Yes, but can an army outside reach these wooden parts on a reasonably well designed castle?
seen cryomancy but never hydromancy souce?You are forgetting mages can summon water and ice at will.
You are forgetting mages can summon water and ice at will.
Ice, yes. But not water...unfortunately. 
I guess I join with the mages then I just really think that the chantry needs to go (so does the qun) they are evil they destroy and they betray (elves) they think that there better then everyone, they abuse there power and the only reason mages use blood magic is because they back them into a corner so they are forced to protect themselves. The maker does not exist.
So does a lot of things, religion doesn't hold monopoly on that and some people need something to believe in that's how humans are. It kinda gives them a purpose and hope.
I'm pro-mage more or less and even I know some mages uses blood magic for power and other stuff so no mages don't only use blood magic when they are cornered some use it like the Tevinter magisters for fun and power.
Every castle has supporting structures made out of wood and it's not mainly the flames that kill, it's the carbon monoxide
But why couldn't a mage simply dispel the fire? It wouldn't have to be magical in nature. Adrian could probably do it, since she is a very strong pyromancer.
Strangely, I am ok with this outcome!
I figured you be
Oh brother... I don't even want to imagine what could happen if he actually attempted to use magic against her. Either Jowan dies from blood loss when he overestimates the strength needed to cut himself, or the Veil is sundered... well, at least the Rose should have lots of city guards and mercenaries hanging around to act as cannon fodder while somebody runs to the Gallows to get help from the Templars.
Yeah that'd be awesome :3
Ice, yes. But not water...unfortunately.
Wait...they can summon ice but not water? How the hell does that work.
If being infested with demons was enough to destroy Kirkwall you'd think DA2 would never happened.
Hey. Those demons were slacking! Too much break time
i agreeSo does a lot of things, religion doesn't hold monopoly on that and some people need something to believe in that's how humans are. It kinda gives them a purpose and hope. I'm pro-mage more or less and even I know some mages uses blood magic for power and other stuff so no mages don't only use blood magic when they are cornered some use it like the Tevinter magisters for fun and power.
But why couldn't a mage simply dispel the fire? It wouldn't have to be magical in nature. Adrian could probably do it, since she is a very strong pyromancer.
I don't think mages can control natural phenomena like that. If the fire is magical in nature sure, but actual fire? Not so sure. Otherwise Dragons wouldn't really be such awe inspiring creatures, would they? And how would the fire in the Starkhaven Circle ever have gotten out of control?
I have noticed something.
Never have i seen a templar beg a mage for mercy, i have never seen them stop fighting period, they are a foe that will engage the enemy until death.
Mages on the other hand?
You start winning? They beg for mercy, they call off the fight and try to flee, its just amusing to me that there are differences between warrior and mage that extend beyond ability, and go into mentality.
Mages are ultimately selfish; While Templars realize their lives ultimately have little meaning compared to their duty.
To a utilitarian autocrat such as myself, tis immensely appealing to see such dedication.
So does a lot of things, religion doesn't hold monopoly on that and some people need something to believe in that's how humans are. It kinda gives them a purpose and hope.
I'm pro-mage more or less and even I know some mages uses blood magic for power and other stuff so no mages don't only use blood magic when they are cornered some use it like the Tevinter magisters for fun and power.
I mean circle mages as shown in da2.
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