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[TheNightSlasher]

While I enjoy playing every single character in the game (well, except talon merc and volus), some characters never made a strong impression on me.

 

I have tried quite a few builds, ranging from efficient to odd-ball builds, but always felt underwhelmed. Some rather popular characters on BSN, like the QFE used to feature in that list, but I found a nice build for QFE that makes use of cryo-incinerate evo with cryo ammo adas. Unfortunately, I haven't been very successful with other characters. They are:

 

Human Sentinel (warp/throw reminds me of AA, disruptor/throw is very similar to HSol CS spam build)

Fury (running around, just pressing one button repeatedly got boring fast. Does anyone use a build using DC+AF for BEs?)

Demolisher (grenade spam is fun, but having 2 grenade powers is dull)

QMI (not sure what to say - while powerful, he is incredibly boring to play the usual way i.e, cloak + grenade :/)

Batguard (hatesurfing is fun every now and then, but I can't see myself doing it the entire game)

QFI (I use HI for sticky spam, and TSE for sabotage+melee combo. So, the QFI became kinda useless.)

 

I don't particularly need builds focused on killing efficiency. I need builds that make the character unique, in some way - something that makes me want to play the character to do something unique, if that makes any sense. For example, I always spec into stasis on the AV and take bonus power evos on both stasis and charge so that she plays entirely different from the drellguard (who just charges, shoots and spams grenades). I have even stopped taking grenade gear recently on the AV and am really enjoying it. 

 

So, if you have any ideas that can make these characters fun, let me know. Odd-ball, goofy builds are most welcome. I'd even appreciate it if you type a line or two as to how you use the character. 

 

Thanks.

[Wizard of Ox]

Have you tried the melee QFI? It's kinda fun. The best way to play her IMO.
Fury not fun? Try with a Claymore . DC + Throw is super boring.

EDIT - melee Demolisher can be fun. As for the rest, I agree with you.

[Dalakaar]

Someone mentioned an AHless Fury with the Black Widow. I had a fair bit of fun with that. Keeps you on your toes.

[Excella Gionne]

Vanilla Human Sentinel(VHS): This a weapons build... I personally use the Claymore with him on this build. Other than that, you can spec him for this for Tech Armor spamming. 

 

N7 Fury: Note that she can do very well with a heavy loadout even at Recharge Bonus of 50% or lower. This is my all-around build. To play her with the Javelin is pretty simple. Use you Annihilation Field for Speed, and if you want to, throw in an Adrenaline Module III. You may, or may not need Cyclonic even for Platinum, but that depends on faction and map. Speed will be your friend. Also, use Annihilation Field for dealing with up close enemies like Husks. For Throw, you can set that to insta-recharge or for BE buff, your preference. Use it to detonate Dark Channel from afar, and to detonate close up enemies affected by AF. Use Dark Channel to prime for more damage done by Warp Ammo IV. Dark Channel will serve as a primer, DOT, and damage buff for Warp Ammo IV. I've done Platinum games with her with the Javelin and this build, and I've somehow always came up first on scoreboard. Reload cancelling is a pain on console, but since you're on PC, that's a whole different story.

 

Eh, if I come up with something that works and plays well while staying true to being odd, I'll share it.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I run the H-Sent with an Acolyte, and use it for BE spam. It's not overly challenging, but with Throw and Warp spec'd for AoE and BE bonus damage, it can be a lot of fun tossing groups of mooks around, while using Warp to prime for BEs on shielded or armoured characters. I spec the Tech Armour for reduced refresh penalty, to speed up the BE process, and beefier Throw (which still makes for a pretty tanky caster, especially if you throw on a Shield Cells or Cyclonic.)

[Deerber]

I'm pretty sure you'd find boring anything I suggest, so...

[Rosemyrtle]

Human sentinel: i got nothing. Never liked them as they felt too much like an adept
Venom + fury. It plays a lot like the valkyrie


I"ll edit this as i think of more

[PurpGuy1]

QMI (not sure what to say - while powerful, he is incredibly boring to play the usual way i.e, cloak + grenade :/)

I don't particularly need builds focused on killing efficiency. I need builds that make the character unique, in some way - something that makes me want to play the character to do something unique, if that makes any sense.

 

Try the QMI with Krysae and Disruptor rounds before you throw your grenade.

 

He will be unique because he is the only character you have who will use the Krysae

[Sailears]

QFI is one of those characters where you wish you could store at least a handful of build templates - there's several unique ways to play:

- sabotage sniping with javelin (or whichever SR you prefer), max weapon/SR damage - can get boring unless javelin.

- "ghost" build with duration/bonus power cloak, sabotage and stickies - best with shotguns like the Raider of pistols like the Paladin

- melee build - challenging but fun.

- tech burst build - variant on "ghost" as above however 4 ranks in cloak and take grenade capacity with max stickies for many explosions. I don't like this so much because it's not very elegant - you may as well play the TSab or an engineer if you want to go the all out explosion route, and besides there are already too many classes revolving around explosions in this game.

 

At the moment I have her specced for "ghost" with Raider and shocktrooper package - essentially a shotgun infiltrator with duration/bonus power and sabotage which makes you almost untouchable. This is the real invisible infiltrator - the shadow has nothing on this because sabotage is awesome for distraction and stickies don't break cloak - so you can pretty much toy with the enemies for the entire match. Melee still hits hard without speccing entirely as a melee build.

 

 

Demolisher is an easy one - 4/6/6/4/6 full melee, crusader + omni-blade, strength enhancer and grenade capacity. Essentially batgauntlet "lite" version. Arc grenade -> sprinting heavy melee. Shoot and homing grenades for variety.

 

 

Fury is one like you I initially loved when it was released, then hated for a long because it grew incredibly boring, then tried to play melee with her in the past but kind of failed, now have come back to a melee build and it is surprisingly good fun - this is what I play at the moment.

 

Goes away from the usual adrenaline mod plus throw spam in favour of a (albeit less efficient) multi stringed approach - making use of all offence in equal measure - heavy melee, light melee, shotgun, throw, AF detonation and DC. Cyclonic is preferred because it's a playstyle choice - I like taking it slow and savouring the light/heavy melee and AF detonation so it's nice to tank some hits. And it's a nice change of pace to not run around like a maniac blowing everything up!

 

Fury is a weird character in terms of playstyle - very easy to create one of the most monotonous yet most destructive builds in the game, but also possible to play slightly less destructive and one of the most varied builds in the game, because light and heavy melee is so awesome to use. Kind of like the Shadow - except with the shadow it is two separate builds whereas with the Fury it is largely one build choice (not counting DC sniping because that is seriously boring - you want to always spec all three powers IMO for most variety and fun). The difficulty is in forcing yourself to choose the suboptimal option during combat - so for example

- heavy melee through wall, detonate AF, finish enemies with light melee and shotgun

- DC, heavy melee in, detonate AF for BE, light melee to mop up, dodge out

 

I'm struggling to describe it here but it's a conscious choice NOT to use throw in every occasion, but use shotgun (ie wraith), light melee, heavy melee, AF detonation (because AF detonation is FUN! ). You as the player need to create the variety in attacks, which finally seems to be sinking into my awareness. Yes having r6 throw is great for use on say, atlases, for example, and great in a tight situation where having an on demand BE is necessary. But now I find myself shooting and meleeing more than using throw - maybe only using once to soften up a group then going all street fighter on what's left.

 

I am by no means speaking with much experience so best to compare with info from more experienced fury players - I had ignored this character for a long long time for aforementioned reasons, only recently clicking with a varied playstyle.

[TheNightSlasher]

Thanks for the responses.

I'll give melee QFI another try. I used to play that but abandoned it in favor of TSE melee.
I'll try a melee fury. I wasn't too impressed by claymore fury in the past, unfortunately. But things change, so I'll give it one more shot.

@purpguy: I use krysae quite a bit. But no harm in trying that build.

@ excella: Claymore on HSent completely wrecks warp CD. Its just not my play style. I only used tsent and Valkyrie for TA build. But since my Valkyrie is set to melee, and tsent is usually a weapons guy, I'll try TA build on HSent.

[robarcool]

Human sentinel:

http://kalence.drupa...!23X55383!EF855

Don't use warp plus throw everywhere. Use warp on elite mooks and kill them with the sniper (you will likely be able to kill them before cooldown is over for casting throw). Use throw on unshielded mooks, or kills the shields with warp + sniper rifle and then use throw to knock them out and kill them. For, bosses, use warp and keep shooting, then throw to get the explosion.

[RealKobeBean]

For the Batguard, you should spec into Lash. That way, you will be good at all ranges. Just split 4/4 between Blade Armor and Fitness. Use a good priming weapon and incendiary ammo. You won't regret it, I promiss. Because of Lash, you can always choose to be a trolly teammate versus Collectors

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Start an alt account and experience everything from basics again. It's worked for others here.

[7twozero]

Start an alt account and experience everything from basics again. It's worked for others here.

+1

All the cool kids are on alt accounts now.

[BIGGLESBY]

If you like melee builds, the human sentinel has some really fun stuff going for them.

[DemiserofD]

Try the QMI with Krysae and Disruptor rounds before you throw your grenade.

 

He will be unique because he is the only character you have who will use the Krysae

 

Hey, I use the Krysae all the time With a Krysae on a jug you can get six pulses before you have to reload! And combos everywhere!

[Excella Gionne]

Start an alt account and experience everything from basics again. It's worked for others here.

That means you'd have to buy ME3 all over again. It was just on sale not too long ago for $5.00. 

[Quarian Master Race]

Javelin/Widow phasic sniping as a QFI is my favourite thing to do in this game and I wouldn't suggest anything else for her. Never gets old for me, especially against geth, because they explode when sabotaged and I can permanently stunlock groups of them for satisfying vengance. Stickies are handy for gibbing mid tier armoured targets like brutes/scions with a 1-2 of headshot>explosion. Alternatively, I put a Raptor, CSR or Indra and pirhana on her with extra nades, disruptor or incendiary and make everything get electrocuted/ burned by sabotage buffed grenade combos. Handy, because I can use the same build for both, only changing weapons and gear. For the latter, you could always swap the last 2 ranks in cloak for fitness and exclusively use a non sniper weapon if so inclined. After all, even at 4 ranks her melee is powerful when paired with sabotage so worth the points

There's always the melee build, but its mostly a gimmick. As you mentioned, saboturian works better for mooks, and even though QFI's overall damage is higher because of cloak, heavy meleeing bosses with quarians is a good way to get a soup rupture.    

QMI has limited options for builds because forgoing arc grenades is just silly and fitness is useless on him. The way I keep him fun is the weapons. I generally use him with a Raptor/Viper, Raider(for occasional lulz) and shock trooper gear. He is already ridiculously powerful so does well even with a comparatively weak weapon. Instead of just spamming nades from cloak, I throw 1 to strip shields and then headshot all the now stagged, unshielded enemies.

Others I won't comment on because not quarian. I don't play them and don't care.

[cato potato]

@ excella: Claymore on HSent completely wrecks warp CD. Its just not my play style. I only used tsent and Valkyrie for TA build. But since my Valkyrie is set to melee, and tsent is usually a weapons guy, I'll try TA build on HSent.

 

What if you could have a 2.64 second Warp cooldown on a Claymore Human Sentinel?

[Loufi]

What if you could have a 2.64 second Warp cooldown on a Claymore Human Sentinel?

The Claymore is the best weapon for casters  ! Well played cato. The only disadvantage of this build is to not have the Smart Choke on the Claymore, but one can't have his cake and eat it.

[Pint]

A while back I tried a gimmicky Fury for BEs mainly focusing on DC and throw, which was fun for just the sake of it.

 

http://kalence.drupa...2507555!!!C9FC5

 

Still have AF due to delicious movement speed mainly, and in case something gets right in your face.

 

 

Demolisher and suppressor built for headshots works too.

 

http://kalence.drupa...!34N52314!0G.GG

 

Fairly straight forward, stun the things and shoot the things.

[TheNightSlasher]

@RelKobeBean: I do have lash on batguard. As I said, it's hilarious at times.

@marksmad: I do have an alt. I used to play on it a while back. It was fun for the first few hours but when I started unlocking rares, it got closer to my main account.

@biggs: do you use throw to hatesurf?

[Excella Gionne]

What if you could have a 2.64 second Warp cooldown on a Claymore Human Sentinel?

LolUltralightmaterials... That could work! But then we'd have to sacrifice accuracy... :-/ 

[RealKobeBean]

Fury with a Spitfire? Never gets old. It used to be one of my favorite choices for teammates, whenever we did the Troll Games.

[Excella Gionne]

Just came up with this for N7 Fury. It's a Heavy Melee build mixed with AF detonation for BEs. In my visualization of this build, You would cast DC from afar and once your Cooldown is about half way, Heavy Melee towards the DC'd enemy and detonate AF for a double stagger(I believe AF detonation staggers). I don't think power amps are too necessary here unless you want to give AF detonation damage more oomph.