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With technology advancing the way it is and graphics getting better all the time, one thing I hope to see someday in a Dragon Age game is the ability to set sail and explore the world.  Maybe it will be set in whatever age is after the Dragon Age... I don't know. Maybe it would have to be an MMO, due to the scope.

 

Though real-world sea exploration led to some rather ugly forms of colonialism and ousting of native populations, I'd like to see more of Thedas than one continent.  How many continents does Thedas have?  Are there other races we haven't seen, aside from the Fex?  Might we discover where the dwarves originally came from?  And the qunari?

 

A game in which we sail, or even a DLC, would be a good introduction to the rest of Thedas.  Of course, I still want to see Tevinter and Nevarra and Rivain.  But what else is out there?  Thedas is surely comprised of more than one continent.

 

I don't believe a DLC could do the idea justice, unless it just sent us to an unknown land, where we may or may not meet a previously unknown race.  Or even if we visited Par Vollen and saw the Fex... etc.  Probably that kind of DLC would be best saved for a final DLC for the game it added to--a farewell to that protagonist without killing the character off.

 

But, that's just my two cents... others may hate the idea of taking the high seas.



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well Unless it is Hawke and Bela taking on the sea ? in a new game ?  :lol: But in all seriousness . Hum , I do like the idea . Although I doubt they will implanmented like this . And you forgot the Qunari ! I like to see where they come from too ! 

Well unless it is many DLC ? Like 1 Dlc is Qunari land , then another DLC it is Nevarra . But that kinda kill the purpose of sailing and seeing them......



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Though real-world sea exploration led to some rather ugly forms of colonialism and ousting of native populations, I'd like to see more of Thedas than one continent.  

You're assuming that Thedas (the continent) is the shining jewel of The DAS (the setting) civilization-wise.  Otherwise this might be more equivalent to kicking a hornet's nest.  "Look at the cute barbarians!  Let's go conquer them real quick".  The Qunari came from SOMEWHERE, after all, and the fact that more of them don't keep coming from wherever that was kind of tends to indicate that they were refugees or exiles.  Given that they came fairly close to conquering Thedas, I'd hate to encounter whoever chased them out.


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You're assuming that Thedas (the continent) is the shining jewel of The DAS (the setting) civilization-wise.  Otherwise this might be more equivalent to kicking a hornet's nest.  "Look at the cute barbarians!  Let's go conquer them real quick".  The Qunari came from SOMEWHERE, after all, and the fact that more of them don't keep coming from wherever that was kind of tends to indicate that they were refugees or exiles.  Given that they came fairly close to conquering Thedas, I'd hate to encounter whoever chased them out.

I dunno, sounds like a great big bad to me.



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I dunno, sounds like a great big bad to me.

I didn't say it wouldn't be AWESOME.



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You're assuming that Thedas (the continent) is the shining jewel of The DAS (the setting) civilization-wise.  Otherwise this might be more equivalent to kicking a hornet's nest.  "Look at the cute barbarians!  Let's go conquer them real quick".  The Qunari came from SOMEWHERE, after all, and the fact that more of them don't keep coming from wherever that was kind of tends to indicate that they were refugees or exiles.  Given that they came fairly close to conquering Thedas, I'd hate to encounter whoever chased them out.

 

You have a very good point.  Actually in some ways the qunari remind me of the ancient Chinese.  Very advanced culture with an excellent military.  Not people you want to tangle with.

 

As for exiles... it's equally possible that the "lost" qunari who attempted to conquer Thedas were pilgrims or explorers.  Less likely pilgrims, honestly.  Considering the potential part-dragon background of qunari, perhaps they were an experiment gone awry that escaped.  Or, perhaps they experimented on themselves and were ousted for it (qunari dragon cult?).  The Qun is an interesting philosophy and it could be that it wasn't embraced by the majority of kossith.  The possibilities are endless.

 

But no, we don't really have any indication of where Thedas stands compared to the rest of the world, other than the qunari are generally more advanced technologically.  And yet, wouldn't it be interesting to go set sail and find out?  Even if all we found was an empty continent, and it was the protagonist's job to find out what HAPPENED there, that no one lives there, that'd be something.

 

Also, there might be places that are magically, rather than technologically, more advanced than Thedas is, too.  It might be interesting to see how some other culture, completely out of contact with Thedas, would treat magic and mages.  Does the Fade exist everywhere?  There are Thedosian cultures that believe in a "time before the Veil," so perhaps it was a spell?  Spells have their limits... one could find oneself sailing into strange territories, indeed, were one to wander to other continents.

 

It's just something I really want to know:  What else is out there in the Dragon Age world?

 

Another interesting question to ask is, of course, whether there are dragons on these other continents at all.



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Dragons and Qunari control the rest of the world, this continent is the last of non Qunari and dragons.  :D   no idea but it would be interesting.  I don't have the books, world of thedas if it mentions the world itself or not,



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Also, there might be places that are magically, rather than technologically, more advanced than Thedas is, too.  It might be interesting to see how some other culture, completely out of contact with Thedas, would treat magic and mages.  Does the Fade exist everywhere?  There are Thedosian cultures that believe in a "time before the Veil," so perhaps it was a spell?  Spells have their limits... one could find oneself sailing into strange territories, indeed, were one to wander to other continents.

 

It's just something I really want to know:  What else is out there in the Dragon Age world?

 

Another interesting question to ask is, of course, whether there are dragons on these other continents at all.

 

From what I understand, the second volume of World of Thedas will have information on other places.  That's due out next year.  Maybe that's to set up something like this...? 



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From what I understand, the second volume of World of Thedas will have information on other places.  That's due out next year.  Maybe that's to set up something like this...? 

Or it could set in stone that, what we got is essentially what we get. ;)



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I love nautical adventures, so I'd be all for it. Unfortunately, exploring the entirety of the world would be far too grand so I wouldn't expect much. The best way I can see this working is something like Suikoden IV or Etrian Odyssey III where we're given a confined place to sail and explore, which I would love. Finding new regions, new races, new specializations, and even being able to affect these places both environmentally and socially would be extremely satisfying and rewarding, IMO.



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I've always wondered why more of the Dragon Age world hasn't been explored.  I mean, they obviously have ships capable of long nautical journeys. The Kossith were able to travel across continental divides over 1000 years ago.  And the primary religion of Thedas believes that the Maker will only return when His song is sung from all four corners of the world.  That kind of divine, proselytic push would make me believe that the Chantry would have been casting missionaries adrift in every direction.

 

Instead, all we have is a qunari population that doesn't remember its origins and the secluded land of Thedas that has little to no knowledge of the lands beyond its shores (or past its harshest borders).  The obvious answer is that Thedas can only achieve so much growth before a Blight comes along and smacks them back into the Dark Age, but they had almost 500 years between the last two Blights in which to rebuild.  It begins to seem that either the seas and wastes are treacherous beyond imagining, or there is something of immense power keeping Thedas isolated (or keeping its pilgrims from returning).


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A ship huh. Ever since Icewind Dale I was dreaming of owning another kind of ship in a BioWare game :)

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I would give a lot to have my character fly a magical tevinter/qunari built airship in one of the future DA games and use it as my mobile base of operations :).



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There are some lands to the South, but its going to be very barren and empty. Basicly Eskimo land.

 

We know there is a mountain range with a dense jungle behind called The Donarks. And the whole western mountain range has never been crossed. There is a town far to the west called Laysh that is set by some water, maybe a lake or a bigger sea, we don't know. But for some reason that whole lake has never been mapped.

 

Then there is Par Vollen which is bigger than we get to see on any maps, but no human has mapped it. And what is up there? We don't know. The Qunari don't seem to have any contact with the lands to the north, nor do anyone for that matter.

 

The only thing we know are the elven records. That humans came from the North and inhabited the lands of Thedas. And then after some thousand years, the Qunari came in 6:30 Steel. And started the invasion 2 years later.

 

 

First of all, I think the Thedas planet is smaller than ours. The planet is turned upside down for us, so south is really north and north is really south. Ferelden and Orlais put at around the same place as Northern Europe. Ferelden seems like Scandinavia, and Orlais seems slightly warmer, French climate maybe. Which would fit.

 

And then the further north we go in Thedas the warmer it gets, so we get to Tevinter, Rivain and Antiva which is close to Greece, Spain, Italy in climate. Which would also fit, because these nations are loosely based on the southern european nations.

 

And then we have Anderfells, which is really dry and rough. So I'm thinking slightly middle eastern or north african climate. Or perhaps Mexican climate? Really dry and unfriendly weather. 

 

And then we face Jungles, both beyond the Anderfells in The Donarks, and in Par Vollen.

 

Thedas is a really down to earth fantasy world, they like to keep things realistic and believable, its really close to our world but it happens to have magic, etc etc.

 

So this makes me believe that Thedas would stretch to the Equator. And since Thedas is quite wide, and my assumption that Thedas really do stretch to the Equator. Then Thedas is as wide as Eurasia. Which is why I think the Thedas planet is smaller than our earth.

 

Which could leave us with land equivalent with Southern Africa on top of Thedas as the land humans of old and eventually Qunari came from. And of course there could be land masses like Australia and America left for us to explore. 

 

Or they will do like Tolkien and keep the world unexplored.

 

PS: I don't want Dragon Age to turn into steampunk.

 

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I would love this. Like your character is an Explore and they lead expeditions across the sea or beyond the Kokari Wilds to expand the maps of the known world. Who knows what we would find. Perhaps we find a sister city to Arlathan and the elves have thrived for thousands of years and they find out what happened to Arlathan. Or perhaps we find a land where the Darkspawn were never kept in chek and were allowed to thrive.



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David Gaider mentioned on his tumblr that World of Thedas: Volume 2 will release more information about the lands just beyond Thedas. It's quite exciting, in my opinion.


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