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[GodBrandon]

Totally agree that there should be more straight male romance options, but to be honest i'm really looking forward to romancing Cassandra. If she wasn't in the game I would be more disappointed.

 

Team #TapDatCass

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

I apologize, I lumped this thread into the multitude of other threads complaining about how BioWare is "ignoring" its' "main demographic" the straight white man. The OP seems polite and didn't mention race, I'm just tired of seeing this kind of thing.

 

Just out of curiosity, if someone said "I don't like my 2 romance options, I want to romance Vivienne, why didn't you make her romancable, or why didn't you give more more options to my liking?", does it really matter whether the complainer is a man or a woman? Does being one gender or the other make the exact same complaint any more or less valid, or can the complaint itself stand or fail on it's on merit?

[Nefla]

Just out of curiosity, if someone said "I don't like my 2 romance options, I want to romance Vivienne, why didn't you make her romancable, or why didn't you give more more options to my liking?", does it really matter whether the complainer is a man or a woman? Does being one gender or the other make the exact same complaint any more or less valid, or can the complaint itself stand or fail on it's on merit?

If the balance and appropriation of a thing (in this case romances) has always been skewed in favor of one group and then in one single scenario it's equal or skewed in a different direction and that group complains that they should still be favored then yes I find it less valid than a member of a typically much less represented group asking to be favored for once. I feel this is especially true when members of the favored group who for once have not been especially pandered to are the ones making multiple threads, posts, and complaints about this while the other groups are much more subdued. 

[Master Race]

A Bioware DEV basically stated it didn't matter straight males have less options because we "got so many in the past" as in past video games in general. It came off as if he is saying inequality is bad unless it is against straight males, because "straight male privilege"

 

 

But don't point that out otherwise the bioware masses will label you sexist lol. Crazy times we are living in.

 

 

At the end of the day it is just a game and we get the same amount of choices as before but the way it was justified really rubbed me the wrong way.

[Null0]

It's not a problem to me, but can't we maybe all try to see the situation from others points of view, and try to be a bit more understanding of where someone else is coming from? The attitude around here sometimes seems to be "I'm not happy unless someone else is getting screwed". That, or "Everyone has a right to complain about something you don't like unless you are a straight male".

IMO that's quite a summary relating to lots, lots, lots of threads here. Even though I mainly just read opinions of the others without replying to them, sometimes I'm really struck by some reactions. It's like: 'hey , in my opinion your argument is silly so you don't have the right to think the way you do'. I've always thought such places exist in order to find out what the others think... and share your thoughts with the others too.

So just a small suggestion: Why not let the OPs state their opinions without automatically calling it 'whining' ? I'm writing this because I respect other people's judgments, especially in a place where we should just exchange opinions.

As for the main topic here: Well, I'd personally like more options for straight men but I guess you just can't satisfy everybody. .. BTW, the only reason why I care about romance options at all is the Morrigan story from DAO. I hope that this aspect of DAI will be equally good, otherwise I won't even care about the romances more than just about a small bonus to the game.

In conclusion : Let's allow other people reflect their opinions + let's wait for the game itself ; Sometimes less is more ;-) ;-)

[Innsmouth Dweller]

i agree - everyone should have the same number of options. not only straight males but homosexuals as well.

i'd be far from flaming people who desire equality only because there is 'straight male' phrase in their post.

[daveliam]

A Bioware DEV basically stated it didn't matter straight males have less options because we "got so many in the past" as in past video games in general. It came off as if he is saying inequality is bad unless it is against straight males, because "straight male privilege"

 

 

But don't point that out otherwise the bioware masses will label you sexist lol. Crazy times we are living in.

 

 

At the end of the day it is just a game and we get the same amount of choices as before but the way it was justified really rubbed me the wrong way.

 

Nope.  If you are referring to Allan's posts, he did not actually state this.  Go back and re-read what he posted (or possibly read it for the first time).

[Vapaa]

So just a small suggestion: Why not let the OPs state their opinions without automatically calling it 'whining' ? I'm writing this because I respect other people's judgments, especially in a place where we should just exchange opinions.

 

When multiple threads are created with the same damn complain, it crosses the border from opinion to whine.

[Null0]

When multiple threads are created with the same damn complain, it crosses the border from opinion to whine.

Or it means that particular thing is an issue to more than just one person (and no, I'm not writing about myself in this case). If a problem is multiplied, such thread will die naturally anyway...

[Vapaa]

Or it means that particular thing is an issue to more than just one person (and no, I'm not writing about myself in this case). If a problem is multiplied, such thread will die naturally anyway...

 

Then why can't they search an existing thread ?

 

And let's be serious here, the issue is "I don't like my LIs", I don't see how a pure matter of taste is enough of an issue to create MULTIPLE threads saying tohe same thing.

[Null0]

Then why can't they search an existing thread ?

And let's be serious here, the issue is "I don't like my LIs", I don't see how a pure matter of taste is enough of an issue to create MULTIPLE threads saying tohe same thing.

Well, I agree with you and I wouldn't create a separate thread knowing that another one already exists. But IMO all the irritation is inadequate to the 'crime'. Relax

[nici2412]

Then why can't they search an existing thread ?

 

And let's be serious here, the issue is "I don't like my LIs", I don't see how a pure matter of taste is enough of an issue to create MULTIPLE threads saying tohe same thing.

Why can't you just ignore the thread if it bothers you so much`?

[Vapaa]

Why can't you just ignore the thread if it bothers you so much`?

 

You're putting too much credit into my interest for the matter.

[nici2412]

You're putting too much credit into my interest for the matter.

Really?, You were the first person posting in this thread (accusing the Op of "whining) and you are now the person with the most posts. So your interest in this thread seems to be pretty high.

[Null0]

Why can't you just ignore the thread if it bothers you so much`?

That would be my natural reaction to a thing that bugs me too. Even though it's a good point that we shouldn't multiply threads.

I usually just pass by threads which I find not interesting/multiplied.

[Vapaa]

Really?, You were the first person posting in this thread (accusing the Op of "whining) and you are now the person with the most posts. So your interest in this thread seems to be pretty high.

 

I came here hoping to find proper "romance suggestions" (you know, the actual title of the thread) not "romance whine #45655".

[Asdrubael Vect]

Straight males

 

Cassandra-female, human, templar/seker, pro Orlais and pro Chantry

 

Straight Females

 

Solas-male, elf, apostage mage without connection with Circles and mages rebellion

 

Blackwall-male, human, ex grey warden constable, neutral sided

 

Cullen-male, human, templar/seker, pro Orlais and pro Chantry

 

Lesbians

 

Sera-female, elf, city elf, pro city elfs

 

Gays

 

Dorian-male, human, criminal and exile with shame from Tevinter who was a member of venatory

 

Bisexuals

 

Iron Bull-male, kosith, Qunari soldier-spy, pro Qunari

 

Josephine-female, human, pro Orlais and pro Chantry, old girlfriend of Lelianna

 

 

yeah straight males got a piece of trash...only a uglier version of meredith..

 

even if not her unattractive steroid aperience (...ok she and other females is ugly as rotten deadman Cole and this is not the main point....but srly many can say what they want and disagree but i think no-one will argue that all our non-romance npc especially Morrigan and even that bastard Lelianna look much and much nicer that all females companions and especially all romance options..and they are warriors, rogues and mages)

 

and her human race and Orlais nationality, she is another meredith, another Templar/Chantry female by her mind and soul...just give her red lyrium and she would be the same

 

Cassandra is very one minded romance...she is ok for human non-mage(ideal romance for who support Templrs and Chantry) and dwarf only...but she cant be with mages and elfs, kossith and any non-Orlais, non-Chantry and anti-Templars person..its like fenris and cullen with mages, its not making sense like Cassandra to be in Qun

 

all talks about realism, equility and anti-playersexuality was a bullshit..and even when they have a damn year and they do not make any new romance for males, non-humans, mages

 

Its damn 2 Kingdoms and 4 races and we can chppse many faction to side and be enemies, and we do not have any companion and advisor who represent dalish, rebellion mages, barbarians like avvars, Orzammar/Kal-Sharok dwarves, Tevinters, Nevarrans...most of our Companions and especially all advisors is one minded to be with Orlais, Orlais Chantry and Templars

 

i hope they at least add new companions and romance option in Story DlC

[Tarvesh]

The one thing I would like to see for romances is subtle differences in scenes where you're speaking with someone you're in a relationship with as oppose to play-throughs where you don't romance them.

An example would be, if you were in a relationship with someone and a scene came up with them you would: sitting or standing closer, more relaxed posture, more smiles, little touches to show affection, etc.

In scenes where you're not in a relationship with that person, those things would be missing or not as pronounced. It shows friendship/comradery but not love.

[Uirebhiril]

Cassandra is very one minded romance...she is ok for human non-mage(ideal romance for who support Templrs and Chantry) and dwarf only...but she cant be with mages and elfs, kossith and any non-Orlais, non-Chantry and anti-Templars person..its like fenris and cullen with mages, its not making sense like Cassandra to be in Qun

 

all talks about realism, equility and anti-playersexuality was a bullshit..and even when they have a damn year and they do not make any new romance for males, non-humans, mages

 

 

How the honest hell do you know any of this? Was the game released early to a select few? Character info suggests Cassandra is having her own little crisis of faith, and as for the rest, again - how do you know? There's only so far an assumption can take you before it just becomes bizarre spouting. We've got no clue what any of these characters are really like. Hate how they look all you want, but until meeting them in game it's probably best not to say with certain fact how they act or what they like and support.

[aerisblight]

if you dont like the romances, then just DONT romance at all...

 

...ok? Good.

[Super Drone]

Straight white men have the same number of LI's they've ALWAYS had in a Dragon Age game and the same number as gay and lesbian players. You are losing nothing. In every other game with one gender/sexuality getting preferential treatment, that person is almost always a straight white male. A different group getting a bonus this time is not going to kill you.

Technically, it's the same group getting extra this time. I know that's apparently discounted because "Sebastian is boring", but...

[Uirebhiril]

Sebastian didn't even unlock the romance achievements, if I remember right. So that there tells you plenty.

[daveliam]

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Oh dear.  Where to begin?

 

First, you haven't played the game yet, so you can't speak to how "one-minded" Cassandra is.

 

Second, your facts are wrong.  Cassandra's not Orlesian.  Neither was Meredith.  Sorry.

 

Third, you lost almost all credibility when you use derogatory and insulting terms in your post.  I stopped reading part way through because it was clear to me that you weren't actually interested in discussing this in a mature and civilized way.

 

Have a great day.

[karushna5]

Just realize, that if they were all Bi, the devs said there would only be 4 LI. (and perhaps less companions, which seem correlated somehow)

So it would probably be: Cassandra, Dorian, Josephine, and Iron Bull.

 

Cullen and Solas would not have been available at all since they were added afterward. Vivienne, not being a romance now, would not have been. And the options would be much more restricted for everyone due to a lack of variety.

[Super Drone]

Sebastian didn't even unlock the romance achievements, if I remember right. So that there tells you plenty.

 

I didn't get an Acheivement for Romancing Aerie in Baldur's Gate 2. It was still a Romance arc.  Sebastian's arc is fairly hard to trigger, if I recall. Just because people didn't like it doesn't mean it doesn't count (sound familiar?  )