And if we would talk about discussion i think and see that some peoples here and especially you does not care a bit about straight males who have almost nothing, and hypocritically represent and considerate this as "whinning" , some declare something that "it was fair for them to be limited"...so do not even start this.
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Straight male who have almost nothing? Right back at ya. "Cool story bro". Because that's what this statement is: Fiction.
straight males
Tali
Straight females
Garrus
Bisexual
liara
Kaiden/Ashley
Dianna
Gays
Cortes
Lesbians
Samantha
Apparently you also don't understand how sexuality works either. Straight males have access to:
Ashley, Tali, Jack, Miranda, Liara, Diana, and Kelly (all of whom except for Diana unlock the romance achievement)
Just because a woman is bisexual (oh, and while we're at it: Ashley is straight, not bisexual), doesn't mean that she is not an option for straight males.
Straight male who have almost nothing? Right back at ya. "Cool story bro". Because that's what this statement is: Fiction.
Straight males
1)Cassandra-female, human, templar/seker, pro Orlais and pro Chantry
Straight Females
1)Solas-male, elf, apostage mage without connection with Circles and mages rebellion
2)Blackwall-male, human, ex grey warden constable, neutral sided
3)Cullen-male, human, templar/seker, pro Orlais and pro Chantry
Lesbians
1)Sera-female, elf, city elf, pro city elfs
Gays
1)Dorian-male, human, criminal and exile with shame from Tevinter who was a member of venatory
Bisexuals
1)Iron Bull-male, kosith, Qunari soldier-spy, pro Qunari
2)Josephine-female, human, pro Orlais and pro Chantry, old girlfriend of Lelianna
yeah, so 1 is more than 2 and 3...okay, this is your math 
i am not even talking about variativity what is make her a bummer for most of Inquisitors nonhumans, mages and anti Orlais, Chantry, Templars, Seeker
yeah, so 1 is more than 2 and 3...okay, this is your math
Again, because you seem to think that bisexuals are only able to romance other bisexuals. Straight men have two options (Cassandra and Josephine), just like everyone else with the exception of straight females. You don't have "almost nothing" because you have two options, which coincidentally is the same amount of options that you had in the last two DA games as well.
Straight male who have almost nothing? Right back at ya. "Cool story bro". Because that's what this statement is: Fiction.
**** I wouldn't have even been that disappointed if in JE and BG2 and ME1 if I had 2 f/m options to males 3 options (or additional F/M/F as the case was in JE >_> ). Because at least I'd had options.
I can't find it in my to be very sympathetic to a group that has gotten most of the options suddenly complaining when someone else gets more. And they still have options as in multiple and not you don't like X? SUCKS TO BE YOU.
I'd probably feel bad if dudes were stuck with just one option for m/f romances. But that is not the case. They have choices. You might not like the choices but they're choices and we have no reason to believe they won't be as content filled as the rest of the choices.
Again, because you seem to think that bisexuals are only able to romance other bisexuals. Straight men have two options (Cassandra and Josephine), just like everyone else with the exception of straight females. You don't have "almost nothing" because you have two options, which coincidentally is the same amount of options that you had in the last two DA games as well.
If he's not including bisexuals, then straight men had ZERO options in DA2. DAI is a step up for them!
Um...some of us don't romance women. Not me I for one don't care but if we're comparing straight female to straight male options yeah you don't exactly count the lesbian option. So it was 2 to 1. BG2 was 3 to 1. And I didn't include ME2 because it was completely even save Kelly who I don't consider an option.
Now if you wanna include s/s of course they got the least amount of options regularly (if they even got the one option female players got). I'm not even arguing that.
Ah, I thought you were arguing Mass Effect as in franchise, not the individual game.
Though technically Liara is not a female. Asari don't have genders. It'd be like calling all Darkspawn males. A flimsy argument I know, but it is what it is.
And s/s have gotten some options in the history of these games. Some people still don't have representation in LIs.
Again, because you seem to think that bisexuals are only able to romance other bisexuals. Straight men have two options (Cassandra and Josephine), just like everyone else with the exception of straight females. You don't have "almost nothing" because you have two options, which coincidentally is the same amount of options that you had in the last two DA games as well.
ok lets make it that way if you insist
Straight males
1)Cassandra-female, human, templar/seker, pro Orlais and pro Chantry
2)Josephine-female, human, pro Orlais and pro Chantry, old girlfriend of Lelianna
Straight Females
1)Solas-male, elf, apostage mage without connection with Circles and mages rebellion
2)Blackwall-male, human, ex grey warden constable, neutral sided
3)Cullen-male, human, templar/seker, pro Orlais and pro Chantry
4)Iron Bull-male, kosith, Qunari soldier-spy, pro Qunari
Lesbians
1)Sera-female, elf, city elf, pro city elfs
2)Josephine-female, human, pro Orlais and pro Chantry, old girlfriend of Lelianna
Gays
1)Dorian-male, human, criminal and exile with shame from Tevinter who was a member of venatory
2)Iron Bull-male, kosith, Qunari soldier-spy, pro Qunari
Bisexuals
1)Iron Bull-male, kosith, Qunari soldier-spy, pro Qunari
2)Dorian-male, human, criminal and exile with shame from Tevinter who was a member of venatory
2)Josephine-female, human, pro Orlais and pro Chantry, old girlfriend of Lelianna
2)Sera-female, elf, city elf, pro city elfs
Ah, I thought you were arguing Mass Effect as in franchise, not the individual game.
Though technically Liara is not a female. Asari don't have genders. It'd be like calling all Darkspawn males. A flimsy argument I know, but it is what it is.
And at least s/s get some options in the history of these games. Some people still don't have representation in LIs.
Liara is female. It says so in the codex. "The Asari an all female race..." Hudson was covering his ass. Monogendered simply means one gender. That one being female.
I mean...just no. Liara is female. The lol asari isn't female was just a reaction to the "why can FemShep be gay but not dude Shep?" question.
True.
If he's not including bisexuals, then straight men had ZERO options in DA2. DAI is a step up for them!
Ha! That's true. According to his logic then then everyone should view DA: I as a step up except for "bisexuals" who "have" the same number of options.
ok lets make it that way
Straight males
1)Cassandra-female, human, templar/seker, pro Orlais and pro Chantry
2)Josephine-female, human, pro Orlais and pro Chantry, old girlfriend of Lelianna
Straight Females
1)Solas-male, elf, apostage mage without connection with Circles and mages rebellion
2)Blackwall-male, human, ex grey warden constable, neutral sided
3)Cullen-male, human, templar/seker, pro Orlais and pro Chantry
4)Iron Bull-male, kosith, Qunari soldier-spy, pro Qunari
Lesbians
1)Sera-female, elf, city elf, pro city elfs
2)Josephine-female, human, pro Orlais and pro Chantry, old girlfriend of Lelianna
Gays
1)Dorian-male, human, criminal and exile with shame from Tevinter who was a member of venatory
2)Iron Bull-male, kosith, Qunari soldier-spy, pro Qunari
Bisexuals
1)Iron Bull-male, kosith, Qunari soldier-spy, pro Qunari
2)Dorian-male, human, criminal and exile with shame from Tevinter who was a member of venatory
2)Josephine-female, human, pro Orlais and pro Chantry, old girlfriend of Lelianna
2)Sera-female, elf, city elf, pro city elfs
You still don't seem to understand Bisexuals very well.
A bisexual man has access to: Cassandra, Josephine, Iron Bull, and Dorian
A bisexual woman has access to: Blackwall, Iron Bull, Cullen, Solas, Josephine, and Sera
You still don't seem to understand Bisexuals very well.
A bisexual man has access to: Cassandra, Josephine, Iron Bull, and Dorian
A bisexual woman has access to: Blackwall, Iron Bull, Cullen, Solas, Josephine, and Sera
4 and 5 for bisexual male and female, 3-4 for females and still 1-2 for straight males
if i would or if i do not counted this, nothing change that straight males have a lack of options and variety..and bixexual, mostly do not care for what gender play and with what gender they swing so they always have most options if we would counting them
4 and 5 for bisexual male and female, 3-4 for females and still 1-2 for straight males
if i would or if i do not counted this, nothing change that straight males have a lack of options and variety..and bixexual, mostly do not care for what gender play and with what gender they swing so they always have most options if we would counting them
Females have 4 options , Straight males have 2 options...along with gay males and gay females. They have the same lack of options as every group that's not straight females. You have no more of a lack of options or variety than gay men and lesbians do.
Straight males have the same number of options as always. They just didn't get the extras.
If he's not including bisexuals, then straight men had ZERO options in DA2. DAI is a step up for them!
Ha! That's true. According to his logic then then everyone should view DA: I as a step up except for "bisexuals" who "have" the same number of options.
if all was available for everyone and if they have equal genders, races, culture and even class representation so noone would be dissapoint, all for everybody...offcourse many will not like Isabella, Lelianna and Zevran for their sleep with everybody nature
but we have more "realistic", "equal" and "anti-playersexuality" romances in DAI what which are separated and for straight males is worst by many reasons that what we have in DAO and DA2..only females have a full accet..they only lack of dwarven male to the full collection
if all was available for everyone and if they have equal genders, races, culture and even class representation so noone would be dissapoint,
No game has ever had that so your not losing it.
Straight males didn't have a warrior romance in DA2 or DA:O.
None of the DA2 females were Andrastrian.
None of the options for straight males in DA:O were elves.
Still no dwarven romance.
but we have more "realistic", "equal" and "anti-playersexuality" romances in DAI what for straight males is worst by many reasons that what we have in DAO and DA2..
One more time: You are not "worst" nor do you have less options than you had in DA: O and DA2. Not liking your options =/= not having option
If the balance and appropriation of a thing (in this case romances) has always been skewed in favor of one group and then in one single scenario it's equal or skewed in a different direction and that group complains that they should still be favored then yes I find it less valid than a member of a typically much less represented group asking to be favored for once. I feel this is especially true when members of the favored group who for once have not been especially pandered to are the ones making multiple threads, posts, and complaints about this while the other groups are much more subdued.
If you are going to bother replying to me, could you at least respond to what I actually wrote?
my scenario was "I don't like the 2 options I have I'd prefer another who isn't available." This has nothing to do with either possible respondent being favoured.
As for what you've wrote, yes there have been a few straight males making threads complaining about their options. If you think it's more than non 'straight males' complaining about their options then I suggest confirmation bias is in play. The 'non straight males' have just been confining their complaints to already existing threads rather than opening new ones constantly.
if all was available for everyone and if they have equal genders, races, culture and even class representation so noone would be dissapoint, all for everybody...offcourse many will not like Isabella, Lelianna and Zevran for their sleep with everybody nature
but we have more "realistic", "equal" and "anti-playersexuality" romances in DAI what which are separated and for straight males is worst by many reasons that what we have in DAO and DA2..only females have a full accet..they only lack of dwarven male to the full collection
I don't understand your complaint exactly.
We do not have it 'worse'. We have the same as other groups. Straight female Elves and Humans have 1 or 2 more options Female Dwarf and Qunari have the same number as everyone else. Your complaining is making you look silly, and making the rest of us look silly by proxy. There is nothing wrong with the options as presented. Maybe you should hold off complaining until you've actually played the game and met these characters.
And by the way, you can always roll a female toon to romance Sera or one of the guys, if you really want more options.
No game has ever had that so your not losing it.
Straight males didn't have a warrior romance in DA2 or DA:O.
None of the DA2 females were Andrastrian.
None of the options for straight males in DA:O were elves.
Still no dwarven romance.
1)you have only 1 city, and 1 human hawke who was in apostage/noble family...gender changes nothing in this part, as a class
2)for me rogue and warior is still warrior, expecially in DAO..for me is always about mage or nonmage
3)only Sebastian was andrastian..all others was the same "andrastians" as Hawke..we cant say that e are not andrastian and insult Chantry priest and Mredith..but thats our history about Hawke
4)yes, but at least we have 1 barbarian non-andrastian anti Chantry and Tempalrs apostage witch with uncertain nature ...i am not like that we do not have other romances(at least dwarven noble can have kids), and cant romance Vellanna and Sigrun in DAA..and do not like that we do not have dagna in DAI when damn she was deserve to be a romance option since DAO and devs put some Cullen in any hole of Thedas
No game has ever had that so your not losing it.
Straight males didn't have a warrior romance in DA2 or DA:O.
None of the DA2 females were Andrastrian.
None of the options for straight males in DA:O were elves.
Still no dwarven romance.
From what I'm understanding, he isn't complaining that he's losing that feature, he's saying he'd prefer it. That's my translation anyway. Personally I prefer the setup we have currently. The DA2 model forced them to make the romances bland and same for everyone. Well, that's probably due to rushing/budgets too.
From what I'm understanding, he isn't complaining that he's losing that feature, he's saying he'd prefer it. That's my translation anyway. Personally I prefer the setup we have currently. The DA2 model forced them to make the romances bland and same for everyone. Well, that's probably due to rushing/budgets too.
The alternative are Romances that only appeal to a fraction of the target audience. Hence the Cassandra situation we have now.
4 and 5 for bisexual male and female, 3-4 for females and still 1-2 for straight males
if i would or if i do not counted this, nothing change that straight males have a lack of options and variety..and bixexual, mostly do not care for what gender play and with what gender they swing so they always have most options if we would counting them
I'm a straight male and I have no problem playing female toons. Some people do, and that's fine for them.
My one quibble about these romances is that I'd prefer to play equal numbers of male and female for each race. I won't be able to do that with this game if I want to experience all romances..
I don't understand your complaint exactly.
We do not have it 'worse'. We have the same as other groups. Straight female Elves and Humans have 1 or 2 more options Female Dwarf and Qunari have the same number as everyone else. Your complaining is making you look silly, and making the rest of us look silly by proxy. There is nothing wrong with the options as presented. Maybe you should hold off complaining until you've actually played the game and met these characters.
And by the way, you can always roll a female toon to romance Sera or one of the guys, if you really want more options.
A)short version for those who do not read
1)noone for male non-humans, mages and any non-Orlais, non-Chantry and anti-Templars/Seekers person
2)lack of females and nonhumans in party
3)Its damn 2 Kingdoms and 4 races and we can choose many faction to side and be enemies, and we do not have any companion and advisor who represent dalish, rebellion mages, barbarians like avvars, Orzammar/Kal-Sharok dwarves, Tevinters(not exiles with shame and criminals like Dorian), Nevarrans, Tal-Vashot...most of our Companions and especially all advisors is one minded to be with Orlais, Orlais Chantry and Templars
4)hope they at least add new companions and romance option in Story DlC
B)no we do not, straight females and bisexuals(i prefer to not count them) have more options and variations
not plan to play as gay or lesbian
The alternative are Romances that only appeal to a fraction of the target audience. Hence the Cassandra situation we have now.
That's always going to be the case for everyone. You think Sera and Dorian appeal universally to their target audiences?
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