Right, Because being honest, straight forward and and still being brilliant while doing it is a horrible thing.
He may wear a mask over his face, but he never masks his intent.
God we need more politicians like him in reality.
Being a ruthless tyranny and being honest about it is soooo much better...Some how.
Being a ruthless tyranny and being honest about it is soooo much better...Some how.
While I agree, my Inquisitor (if he knows about all this) will be stuck with a moral dilemma.
Because Celene might promise any number of concessions.
But she can't be trusted.
Gaspard can but he's less likely to promise anything good.
So it's a hard-hard decision there.
It's like we're in Westeros and dealing with Oathbreakers.
While I agree, my Inquisitor (if he knows about all this) will be stuck with a moral dilemma.
Because Celene might promise any number of concessions.
But she can't be trusted.
Gaspard can but he's less likely to promise anything good.
So it's a hard-hard decision there.
It's like we're in Westeros and dealing with Oathbreakers.
Or we can just put them both in their place.
You know, punish 2 to warn 100... 
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Godwin wins again.
Oh and just so you know, mentioning the Fuhrer doesn't do much to me.
It isn't a shock value term to me.
He's a historical figure, one among many.
Not much else.
Look, I looked over it the first few times because I don't like pointing out when someone is wrong about the details of something, but you're becoming redundant at this point:
"The law and its corollaries would not apply to discussions covering known mainstays of Nazi Germany such as genocide, eugenics, or racial superiority, nor, more debatably, to a discussion of other totalitarian regimes or ideologies[citation needed], if that was the explicit topic of conversation. "
Godwin's Law doesn't apply in this case.
There is not a single ruler of significance that has hands not drenched in blood, tongues not silver with lies, nor ambitions free of cruelty.
Nelson Mandela?
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Also, arguably Jimmy Carter. Though apparently that is considered "weak."
Nelson Mandela?
no, he had some pretty sketchy connections to violent groups in South Africa
Provide some sources.
He was confirmed to have been a member of the South African Communist Party after his death, and his work with the ANP included the support of violent methods to overthrow the apartheid government, even requesting arms from China
its all on his page on Wikipedia if you want just a cursory glance
Wouldnt just easier to kill them both and let the maker sort it out lol
Didn't you hear our new god? The Maker isn't real.
Bow before the Elder One and be spared.
at this point its not a bad ideaDidn't you hear our new god? The Maker isn't real. Bow before the Elder One and be spared.
If we're able to defeat the Elder One doesn't that make the Inquisitor the new, new god?
Wouldnt just easier to kill them both and let the maker sort it out lol
I maintain Tapster's Dwarf for King of Orzammar.
I maintain Tapster's Dwarf for King of Orzammar.
I still say we let orlais sort it out themselved or bring in what kirkwall had
What a templar that went crazy from a red lyrium sword?
or enough crazy where the city burnsWhat a templar that went crazy from a red lyrium sword?
I would be interested if it's a pick of poisons.
Ending A: Side with Gaspard
King Gaspard proceeded to reform the chevalier orders of Orlais and crack down strongly on infighting. Many nobles were executed for their crimes and a new regime based on honor and tradition replaced the Game. King Gaspard's reforms to the military were the most memorable, though, as he began employing elvish scouts and units aside the main army. For some, this was an improvement and Orlais' elves for the first time started to consider themselves as Orlesians. The first kingdom Duke Gaspard invaded was Fereldan but it would be far from the last as the flag of Orlais became planted in many new lands.
Ending B: Side with Celene
Empress Celene instituted a new Golden Age in Orlais based on intellectualism, art, and prosperity. Peace occurred across the Empire as she brokered treaties with many of the surrounding lands. The Empress never married but named a suitable line of secession through a series of cousins which managed to avoid chaos following her death at a ripe old age of ninety-six. Unfortunately, the Empress Celene was forged to renege on most of the promises she made to regarding civil rights within the Empire. While the lot of the Orlesian peasant improved, the life of the Empire's elves became much worse. Purges of Alienages, laws against intermarriage, and heavy taxation caused many to move to nearby Fereldan or Nevarra.
And there's no third option.
Look this isn't meant to be anti Gaspard, he is a very interesting character and I like him, but he is no different from Celene when it comes to being honorable. His honor is limited to combat and battle, as he fully states. They are both products ofthe gAME they play, no more no less.
There differences lie solely in what there focus is.
I'm aware Gaspard is a snake but turning against the Empress is hard to call treason when she gained the throne by treason.
It boils down to this.
1. Gaspard killed his strongest ally for breaking a truce.
2. Celene kills her lover's family and lies to her about it for decades to her face.
I would be interested if it's a pick of poisons.
Ending A: Side with Gaspard
King Gaspard proceeded to reform the chevalier orders of Orlais and crack down strongly on infighting. Many nobles were executed for their crimes and a new regime based on honor and tradition replaced the Game. King Gaspard's reforms to the military were the most memorable, though, as he began employing elvish scouts and units aside the main army. For some, this was an improvement and Orlais' elves for the first time started to consider themselves as Orlesians. The first kingdom Duke Gaspard was Fereldan but it would be far from the last as the flag of Orlais became planted in many new lands.
Ending B: Side with Celene
Empress Celene instituted a new Golden Age in Orlais based on intellectualism, art, and prosperity. Peace occurred across the Empire as she brokered treaties with many of the surrounding lands. The Empress never married but named a suitable line of secession through a series of cousins which managed to avoid chaos following her death at a ripe old age of ninety-six. Unfortunately, the Empress Celene was forged to renege on most of the promises she made to regarding civil rights within the Empire. While the lot of the Orlesian peasant improved, the life of the Empire's elves became much worse. Purges of Alienages, laws against intermarriage, and heavy taxation caused many to move to nearby Fereldan or Nevarra.
And there's no third option.
Those aren't even comparable, there is no negative to picking Gaspard. Again, I miss where the idea that he would remove the game or reform the chevalier order he loves so much.
The true comparison would involve celenes ending improving culture and the lot of the elves but the size of the empire is reduced.
Gaspard s ending would involve a strong militaristic expansion that greatley increased size of the empire. The expansion came at the cost of previous cultural growth and a crackdown on city elf rights to support the war effort.
1. The negative of his invading Fereldan?
2. Why would there be a negative reducing the size of Orlais? It's an evil-evil nation.
Nelson Mandela?
He was willing to fight to overthrow tyranny, and the apartheid government was supported by other nations. Nonviolent methods were attempted to bring about change by the African National Congress in the 1950s, but those attempts were outlawed and the apartheid government responded to them with violence.
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