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#101
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She did, it was very obvious lol

Especially when she threatened to geld my Hawke if he ever did anything to hurt Merrill  :D



#102
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How do you know the romances already in place weren't already fleshed out just fine?

Because no video game romance ever has been as fleshed out as it could have been. There are always cuts.



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I actually liked the CarverxMerrill pairing.  SebastianxBethany isn't bad, but the former's probably my favorite that hasn't happened.

 

Yeah I like it too but Merrill is just so oblivious it hurts.

 

Then again she's like that towards dude Hawke too til the love scene (to the extent that sometimes I don't even remember I triggered her romance til then :o )

 

I'm not real fond of SebxBeth. Then again I'm not fond of anyone with Bethany XD Seb's too waffly, Varric's a bro, Fenris is a hell no (and with my Hawke anyway) Anders is a double hell no. There's not really anyone I can see her with decently XD



#104
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Yeah I like it too but Merrill is just so oblivious it hurts.

 

Then again she's like that towards dude Hawke too til the love scene (to the extent that sometimes I don't even remember I triggered her romance til then :o )

 

I'm not real fond of SebxBeth. Then again I'm not fond of anyone with Bethany XD Seb's too waffly, Varric's a bro, Fenris is a hell no (and with my Hawke anyway) Anders is a double hell no. There's not really anyone I can see her with decently XD

Merrill/Carver sucks on toast.

 

And Merrill's not oblivious, at least by Act 2, when she's clearly receptive to all flirting.



#105
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She did hit on Bethany, though... true, Merrill wouldn't react as much as Bethany, but Merrill's not completely innocent either. Recall her fascination with dirty things...

 

Yes it wasn't anywhere near as amusing to Isabela as Bethy's scandalized "WHAT?" and she's not completely innocent no but I can see her as being too innocent for Isabela's tastes. I feel the same about Beth really but Isabela just has more fun trolling her.



#106
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Merrill/Carver sucks on toast.

 

And Merrill's not oblivious, at least by Act 2, when she's clearly receptive to all flirting.

 

YMMV I like it just fine if Merrill could actually bother responding once in a while.

 

She was to my Hawke. Not a blush or a coy smile or nothing. It was like I was remarking on the wallpaper color.



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Because no video game romance ever has been as fleshed out as it could have been. There are always cuts.

 

Are you really surprised by this? Romance is a small factor in these games and thus will never be a fleshed out as you want them to be. If there was a major shift in demographic where romance was the big cheese, then you would get your wish. But I don't see that happening.



#108
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What implication? There isn't an agenda behind everything, and contrary to political correctness, most people are sexual beings, only the very rare exception isn't. People, and especially feminists, should stop seeing boogie men behind every detail. THE WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND YOU. Bunch of self-centered pricks.


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#109
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Are you really surprised by this? Romance is a small factor in these games and thus will never be a fleshed out as you want them to be. If there was a major shift in demographic where romance was the big cheese, then you would get your wish. But I don't see that happening.

 

hell even in freaking romance games I feel the romances could be a bit more fleshed out at times. (Or freaking toned down so I can get some plot.)

 

You can never win :(



#110
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YMMV I like it just fine if Merrill could actually bother responding once in a while.

 

She was to my Hawke. Not a blush or a coy smile or nothing. It was like I was remarking on the wallpaper color.

Carver's completely the wrong person; there are many reasons, but they boil down to his being a jerk.

 

And I'm rather surprised, given that I got reactions like "Oh, you're too kind! Is it warm in here? Stop babbling, Merrill..." and after saying it was hard to imagine someone more lovable than her, "That's so untrue. I can think of someone..."



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hell even in freaking romance games I feel the romances could be a bit more fleshed out at times. (Or freaking toned down so I can get some plot.)

 

You can never win :(

 

Honestly sometimes I wish there were no romance in these games. Because it's either not done well enough or it can always be added to. No one is ever satisfied. Always more, more, more.



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It'd be interesting to see if Merrill/Carver, Bethany/Sebastian, or any other couplings happen if you don't initiate anything.



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Carver's completely the wrong person; there are many reasons, but they boil down to his being a jerk.

 

And I'm rather surprised, given that I got reactions like "Oh, you're too kind! Is it warm in here? Stop babbling, Merrill..." and after saying it was hard to imagine someone more lovable than her, "That's so untrue. I can think of someone..."

 

Carver's not that bad. Stick up his rear yeah but not that bad.

 

I'm pretty sure I didn't get the stop babbling reaction. What flirt was that after?

 

Hm or maybe it's the rivalry that does it.

 

I'm pretty sure I didn't get the chance to say anything about lovable though.



#114
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Honestly sometimes I wish there were no romance in these games. Because it's either not done well enough or it can always be added to. No one is ever satisfied. Always more, more, more.

 

But that happens in games based around romance too though XD you won't please everyone no matter what you do so might as well focus on making the best product you can til you're satisfied with it.

 

This doesn't mean of course there can't be constructive criticism or you did a flawless job.



#115
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I don't find Blackwall interesting, or Cullen for that matter. He was creepy as f*ck in DAO. and Solas with his possible reproduction agenda is freaking me out. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks so. So it's far more complicated in reality than "women now have more choices", it's sooo not true.

 

 

I keep seeing the Solas wants babies thing as the reason he likes elf females only. I really have to wonder why this is not something people worry about with Cullen. I mean, he's straight and only wants humans or elves, both of which he can have human babies with. And yet his potential desire for reproduction is never brought up. Strange. :?
 



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Which is really rather odd, if you think about it. Why would Merrill of all people be a turn-off to Isabela?

 

Merrill was probably too innocent in her eyes. Its the same with Bethany, though she does enjoy teasing her.



#117
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Carver's not that bad. Stick up his rear yeah but not that bad.

 

I'm pretty sure I didn't get the stop babbling reaction. What flirt was that after?

 

Hm or maybe it's the rivalry that does it.

 

I'm pretty sure I didn't get the chance to say anything about lovable though.

The one about the mirror.



#118
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The one about the mirror.

 

Hm...I don't recall a stop babbling after that. But again it'd make sense she'd react differently to the flirts based off friendship/rivalry. Fenris does. Pretty sure Anders does too.

 

Edit: Just checked a video yeah she does the babbling remark with a friendship male Hawke...probably is a rivalry difference then.



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I keep seeing the Solas wants babies thing as the reason he likes elf females only. I really have to wonder why this is not something people worry about with Cullen. I mean, he's straight and only wants humans or elves, both of which he can have human babies with. And yet his potential desire for reproduction is never brought up. Strange. :?
 

For both Cullen and Solas, it seems more of a cinematics issue, so they just chose the gender/race combination that made most sense for them though Solas apparently has a story reason for female elves.  I guess Cullen may get a reason too.



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Hm...I don't recall a stop babbling after that. But again it'd make sense she'd react differently to the flirts based off friendship/rivalry. Fenris does. Pretty sure Anders does too.

I would have posted more, but I suspected that you'd report me for a technicality on a Youtube video with profanity in it.



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Yeah I like it too but Merrill is just so oblivious it hurts.

Then again she's like that towards dude Hawke too til the love scene (to the extent that sometimes I don't even remember I triggered her romance til then :o )

I'm not real fond of SebxBeth. Then again I'm not fond of anyone with Bethany XD Seb's too waffly, Varric's a bro, Fenris is a hell no (and with my Hawke anyway) Anders is a double hell no. There's not really anyone I can see her with decently XD


I see the SebxBeth as a fling, CarverxMerrill would be adorable really lol

The real ship is NathanielxVelanna xD

#122
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For both Cullen and Solas, it seems more of a cinematics issue, so they just chose the gender/race combination that made most sense for them though Solas apparently has a story reason for female elves.  I guess Cullen may get a reason too.

 

Right, but so many have decided it's because Solas must want the babbies. It's possible, sure, but not a peep about Cullen having the same story reason for his gating. Fair's fair, folks. :P



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I would have posted more, but I suspected that you'd report me for a technicality on a Youtube video with profanity in it.

 

:rolleyes: cause somehow in the last 4 years I've become petty enough to report someone for profanity. Whatever Xil. Anyway my edit clarified. It's probably a friendship/rivalry difference.


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#124
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I see the SebxBeth as a fling, CarverxMerrill would be adorable really lol

The real ship is NathanielxVelanna xD

 

Nate and who? I'm sorry all I see is a smear mark on the floor. Used to be some raving elf chick. :3

 

Man she's my least favorite DA character.


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#125
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I keep seeing the Solas wants babies thing as the reason he likes elf females only. I really have to wonder why this is not something people worry about with Cullen. I mean, he's straight and only wants humans or elves, both of which he can have human babies with. And yet his potential desire for reproduction is never brought up. Strange. :?

I was never interested in Cullen so I don't care if he wants them or not. He's still a creep and a big no-no for me. :lol: Also, a templar. 

Everyone just assumed Cullen is simply straight because he didn't flirt with male warden, that's all.

Solas I found interesting but it was the devs who said "yes,there's a perfect story reason for him". It's not like there's a hundreds of reasons a man and an elf would want to deal only with an elf and a female one to boot.

I mean, we could be wrong, but if it's true I want no part in it.