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Mass Effect: Movie or Television series?


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I noticed that there are various rumors about Mass Effect being a movie.  I couldn't help but wonder if that were the best format for an experience such as Mass Effect.  I work 2 jobs and have a family to take care of in between, so I don't always get to spend an over-amount of time playing.  An hour (if I'm lucky 2) a day or every other day.  Because of this schedule, I have turned to breaking my gameplay down into 'episodes.'  This got me thinking; with all that there is and all that happens in the series, wouldn't a television series bring it better justice? I fear that with a movie, much of what can be found in the franchise would inevitably filtered out by the film's timing.

 

So, would you prefer a film or a television series?

Thoughts?



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If anything, a TV Series would probably be the better choice.

 

But I must admit, I am of the believe that Mass Effect should not be made into a Movie, nor a TV Series.

And not just because of that terrible Paragon Lost flick, but I dont think the medium could do it any justice.

 

I say one thing though, I think a Episodic release of the games could work really well. Like Tell Tale does it. But that's off topic.



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I don't think we'll see either. Neither of them would sell any DLC.


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Season 1: Trial by Fire (First Year)

01. Chosen
02. Spectres
03. Rough Tides
04. Dr. T'Soni, I Presume
05. Vis a Vis
06. Visitors From Down the Street
07. Armstrong
08. Corporate Interest
09. Maternal Instinct
10. The Cerberus Network
11. Virmire
12. Bring Down the Sky
13. Grounded
14. Race Against Time: Message in a Bottle
15. Race Against Time: Hour of the Wolf

Season 2: Fight for the Lost (Second Year; First Half)

01. Death and Rebirth
02. Freedom's Progress
03. Quarantine Zone
04. Archangel
05. The Price of Revenge
06. Okeer's Legacy
07. Stealing Memory
08. Overlord
09. Subject Zero
10. Horizon

Season 3: Heart of Courage (Second Year; Second Half)

01. Rebirth Through Death
02. Unforgettable
03. The Devil You Know
04. Sins of the Father
05. Blood on the Scales
06. War Scorched
07. Treachery and Faith
08. IFF
09. A House Divided
10. Suicide Mission: The Approach
11. Suicide Mission: Fight for the Lost
12. Lair of the Shadow Broker [90]
13. Arrival

Season 4: Beginning of The End (Third Year)

01. Earth is Burning
02. Mars Volta
03. No Safe Harbor
04. From Ashes
05. In the Pale Moonlight
06. Tomorrow's Vanguard
07. Perchance to Dream
08. Appearances and Other Deceits
09. A Future for the Krogan: United
10. A Future for the Krogan: The Shroud

Season 5: Committed to Legend (Fourth Year)

01. The More Things Change
02. Operation Omega
03. Today is a Very Bad Day
04. Perseus Veil
05. Keelah'Salai
06. Midnight on the Firing Line
07. In A Mirror, Darkly [90]
08. Beneath the Surface
09. Asari Sunset
10. Sanctuary
11. You Are Cordially Invited
12. Last Day of the Final Cycle: Old Wounds
13. Last Day of the Final Cycle: Hammer and Shield
14. Last Day of the Final Cycle: The Middle Path

Work in progress based on my first Shepard. Constantly tweaking. I have short blurbs of each "episode" written in a composition book somewhere. To this day I know more about sci-fi television production than video games, I think. I've applied that knowledge to this little pet project and would expand upon many elements of the series were this the format chosen and were I, well, in the industry. I'm aware the length appears unnecessary to some, but this is built around the dream foundation of bygone big-budget traditional cable storytelling, especially in the first season, which would be able to paint a good introductory depiction of the lore with those so-called "filler" assignment plots you see up there, as well as allowing the ME1 cast ample development, a thing which is lacking in the game itself.

Pipedream of mine to make it happen, not far behind "travel through every country in the world" and "cure cancer."

So yeah. TV.
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Wow, wow, WOW !!!! Jeffzero This is amazing! I just like really saw the whole trilogy! You are a professional writer? (I'm not kidding!) That's great! It needs a great director! Really!
I would like to see it! :)

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Haha, aw. Yeah, I would as well. I grew up on television space opera and watching it flicker and fade was kind of rough, even if it's relatively understandable. TNG's success could only help pay for so many DS9s, Farscapes, SG-1s and BSGs. I'd love to see it make a comeback though and I feel like Mass Effect would be a fun place to look to see that happen, so I started blueprints to that end. It's my own little brand of fandom artwork since I can't draw anything for the life of me. :P

Unfortunately I'm no professional. Just a cultural anth major. Maybe some studio out there would hire me anyway, but I'm guessing probably not!
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It's great! :)  Please don't stop then! You have talent, you love ME-trilogy, maybe one day we'll see a great show!


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An animated TV series would probably be the best bet.

 

A live action film would probably not get the budget it needs and would end up with bad CGI and special effects, a cast and director from Hollywood's C and D lists, and hack writers. The story would also be so chopped down to fit a two hour running time that it would be nearly unrecognizable. Combine those two factors and we'd likely end up with yet another awful film adapted from a video game series.

 

With an animated series budget and casting would be less of an issue, and you'd have the story play out over maybe ten or twelve hours (assuming 10 or 12 one hour episodes per season) instead of two. With an animated series you might also be able to get some of the game's VA cast to reprise their roles. With a live action film most of the voice actors from the games would not be ideal choices to play those roles.


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One Question, JeffZero.

 

I know you liked the end, even though some of us think it was a dogfart.    Would you have the crucible plans rely on reaper tech?  Is there any way to avoid the dogfart?  

 

If I saw Shepard as someone else, then I can see the thing from a less personal standpoint.  I still have my doubts though.  However, I do like your ideas!  I just might have to forget to TiVO the endings. 


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One Question, JeffZero.

 

I know you liked the end, even though some of us think it was a dogfart.    Would you have the crucible plans rely on reaper tech?  Is there any way to avoid the dogfart?  

 

If I saw Shepard as someone else, then I can see the thing from a less personal standpoint.  I still have my doubts though.  However, I do like your ideas!  I just might have to forget to TiVO the endings. 

 

In the final analysis, I think it's more that I'm content with the ending, as of Extended Cut, than that I genuinely like it, per se. The emotional undercurrent in the, ah, colors I chose, works for me. But there are tremendous issues with my picks, nevertheless. And I'm not so naive as to believe that something like Synthesis or even Control would fly with many fans without significant work. At the very least, mandatory glowing green eyes and apparently reawakened Husks would absolutely have to go, re: Synthesis. I'd also very likely lessen the broadscale organic+synthetic hardwiring in general. Or perhaps I'd circumvent the ordeal altogether, despite things like Tricia Helfer's well-delivered monologue, EDI's embrace with the LI, et al being the big contributing factors to my personal Trilogy conclusion, and instead simply embrace a Destroy that lacks the elements present which make it detestable to me on a personal level, despite my awareness it's the most popular selection at least among the more hardcore fans of the franchise.

 

It's easily the most daunting question anyone can pose for me. My notes have scribbles all over them in this arena. The nice thing, if something of a dismissal of the current discussion, is that there'd be years across a hopefully-talented writing team to tackle endings which many perceive as having completely missed the mark the first time, and just barely grazed it a few months later.

 

Would I eliminate Reaper tech implementation into the Crucible in general? It'd really depend on how the rest of the thought process ultimately shapes up. It's harder for me to envision a Synthesis that'd make anyone happy without the existence of some kind of contribution on the part of their coding. But then again, the idea of Synthesis in and of itself is such a colossal turn-off that from a business standpoint it might not make the most sense to pursue it regardless. My work-in-progress blueprints simply echo it for now because they're modeled after my "canon" Shepard, who saw the option as possessing the potential to be viewed as historically detestable but by "Season 5" had learned to embrace his essence as a galactic peacemaker and believed of the available decisions it was the one which suggested the most peace.

 

Of course, I mean, hell, just my having the opportunity to say that in the preceding paragraph shines more light on why someone would choose it than the construction of the endings in-game can ever offer. Instead we get "but there will be peace?" and -- it's been a while, so I'm not 100% sure, but -- I think that's Shepard's last spoken line in the game (and in life) for many players, heh. No matter how this theoretical television production would go down, a major priority would be building on that sequence to be as all-inclusive as possible in its depiction.


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A broadway musical



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A broadway musical


This is an acceptable alternative.

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Nice work there JeffZero.  yeah, I could totally see a tv series based on your outline.  :)

 

TV: while realistic would be cool, well done animation would be cool too.

 

Movie: Could be, but it would have to be well done


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I always prefer great movie to great TV series. Anything shorter than great does not deserve Mass Effect in the title :)


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JeffZero, that episode list is fantastic! I wouldn't mind some assignments being filler episodes too.

 

Also, I'd like to have a Blasto movie be an non-canon OVA


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Haha, I've given thought to supplemental works, too. I have a bad habit of reading books like they're television miniseries, even. I can't escape it. If Mass Effect were a TV franchise, TV movies of sorts on the first three novels, and short pieces on at least the Redemption and Invasion comics, would be neat.

Blasto would obviously be a high-priority property, too. :P

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Animated TV series would be better since it offers a lot of flexibility in terms of native, pacing, character development etc. A movie will mean a significant amount of story content will have to be cut and the entire plot compressed into two hours and the characters won't get much development time which won't do the games any justice.

 

That being said I'd rather have a TV series that expands the universe with new characters and plot lines and have no relation to any of the characters from the trilogy.


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I have a bad habit of reading books like they're television miniseries, even.

 

Boo oooks? What is it and how do you pronounce it?

 

ME is definately TV series material. Could be the new Star Trek. With Benedict Cumberbatch as a Renegade Shepard Vanguard and Miley Cyrus as LI Jack  :wizard:  (or alternatively a good actress). The Wire style would be nice. I loved how they changed perspectives in the series. 


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Honestly, would be appealing for a moment but lost to me.  As Shep is drawn up by our own selves. I cant say I wont watch some of it, but would fail to keep interested in watching someone else's decisions for the game.  Which, could just watch someone else play all three in same retrospect. 

 

I would support watching a movie.  I don't have access to watching programs on TV, once in Netflix fine.  Doesn't mean I couldn't get cable or something, but that would be wasted money as I wouldn't watch most of it available programs.


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For me, a new (and good) space opera universe -- seeing it, feeling it -- is what I love most about the series. Controversial a statement though it may be, making choices in it is a distant third or fourth, behind the characters and possibly the narrative itself. So it's far easier for me to get lost in these thoughts about how a television production would operate, because it'd mean significant expansion on all those plot points that are rather brief in nature and could use a lot more build-up and resonance, IMO, in a perfect world.

 

I know most gamers play games to play them, though, haha. 


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So, the next question would be- what network would do it justice?

I mean, I'm sure the obvious option would be Syfy, but only if they gave

ME the same sort of budget they put towards Battlestar Galactica.

 

Also- male Shepard or female Shepard?

 

A male Shepard would definitely be the easiest route to go, but having a female Shepard would definitely

be the more interesting route to go.

 

Also, love interests? Kaidan? Ashley? Liara?

... Garrus?

 

Or none at all?


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Network is a fickle beast of a question. I know SyFy business policy about as well as any former fan can claim to, and of late I have serious doubt they would be interested in doing the show justice. It is a very tough project for numerous reasons and just the fact that it's set in space kind of skyrockets the budget even in this digitally capable era. Furthermore, one o the nicest things about the gaming medium in relation to Mass Effect is that the art team has had more freedom with the subject of xenobiology for it. Getting the krogan, salarians, elcor, hanar, right on TV would be pretty hard. I think we were starting to get there with Stargate Universe's impressive aliens, but the cost involved in their animation is thought to be a contributing factor to its difficult pacing and inability to catch on with an audience large enough to bother renewing it.

Nowadays, HBO and Showtime would be where to look. If interested, either network would wield sufficient cash to make it work, I think, albeit with some design modifications which would no doubt be controversial. "Big-budget genre" has gone premium for a variety of reasons. Somewhat unfortunately on a selfish personal level, the tradeoff is that my pet project vision for the show would undoubtedly be truncated. 10-13 episodes a season. Then again, hmm. Successful shows go for about five seasons in those venues (with obvious exceptions toward highly successful phenomenons Game of Thrones/True Blood, but in Mass Effect's case more than five for the trilogy would likely not be a good thing anyway) so maybe there'd be ample time.

The most important thing with premium though is to ensure that each episode delivers. This is true elsewhere but especially so on these platforms. Audiences that tune out of highly serialized storytelling are relatively unlikely to tune in again. The structure would need to reflect that necessity. Gone are the days whereby a weak first season of Babylon 5 would make way for four more seasons. I think J. Michael Straczynski knows that, too; reboot plans on the big screen are completely reasonable under that lens. The biggest problem with my outline at this point is Season 2. It doesn't go forward enough. It ends on Horizon. In general I look at it and say, "this is a challenge." It's entirely possible Mass Effect 2 would need significant retooling. Beloved game though it may be, it's the hardest to adapt, I think.

The rest of your questions are equally interesting but more difficult for me to address. My outline features a male Shepard who gets close to Ash but tragically loses her on Virmire, spends the second game well and truly rebuilding himself, and then falls for Tali. It, like many other things, would be subject to change. I like the Tali angle because Shepard (in this case) gets over his issues via realizing how fiery he gets about defending her, a close friend and confidante. It later ties into his peacemaking and yearn to craft a future worth fighting for. That said, any other choice works, too. Miranda rebuilt him in the literal sense. Liara shares my Shepard's zest for holistic understanding. Kaidan is an interesting dynamic because he was the one Shepard saved. It's all open.

Similarly, despite my current model being male, I'm quite attracted to the idea of trying to sell female Shepard to audiences and see a strong woman in the lead. There are too few of those in sci-fi. It would be glorious.

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I love to see a TV series with a female Shepard as we don't see much of her as it all based on a male Shepard, and Liara as the LI  because I think all the dialogue from the games is based on having her as a LI

Or a TV series not based on the game but set on the citadel



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I love to see a TV series with a female Shepard as we don't see much of her as it all based on a male Shepard, and Liara as the LI  because I think all the dialogue from the games is based on having her as a LI

Or a TV series not based on the game but set on the citadel

If a TV series would ever happen its obviously going to be male Shepard (80% of play through involve male Shepard), but tbh I'd rather not have a TV series about Shepard or his/her adventures but instead expand the universe with new characters and new plot lines.


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So, the next question would be- what network would do it justice?

I mean, I'm sure the obvious option would be Syfy, but only if they gave

ME the same sort of budget they put towards Battlestar Galactica.

 

Also- male Shepard or female Shepard?

 

A male Shepard would definitely be the easiest route to go, but having a female Shepard would definitely

be the more interesting route to go.

 

Also, love interests? Kaidan? Ashley? Liara?

... Garrus?

 

Or none at all?

 

I'd like to see HBO or Showtime do it, but I doubt either one would touch it. Syfy (when did it cease being SciFi?) would probably be the most likely.

 

I think any adaptation of the game series to film would almost certainly have male Shep. He was on the gamebox and in the majority of the marketing, and a large majority of players used male Shep as well. He's the face of the series.

 

The love interest is a bit harder to predict. Shepard would almost certainly have one, but predicting who that character would be is a bit more difficult. I'd bet against a same sex romance, just because it's a lot riskier for the producers. I think Tali would be very unlikely as well, just because she wears a helmet all the time that partially obscures her facial features. I'm not sure that would translate well to film.  Also I doubt it would be any of the ME2 characters if the series stayed relatively faithful, as they'd only have a prominent role in one season. (assuming one season covers one game)

 

My guess is that the LI would be either Ashley or Liara. I'd give better odds to Ashley though.