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[Kantr]

MageHawke let him live so that he could see all the deaths and turmoil his actions caused, she felt that killing him was too good for him. However she told him to get lost

[Zazzerka]

I've decided that my Hawke was pretty good mates with Anders. Oh sure, it sucks about the innocents killed and all that blah blah blah, but maybe he's right about there being no compromise. As neutral as I tried to keep him, my Hawke was just a mage activist waiting to explode.

[Jester]

I killed him in a playthrough I just finished - pro Mage Rogue Hawke.

 

During the playthrough, she often supported the mages, mainly because Bethany was in the Circle. Her support for the mages had it's limits however, so she ended up with full rivalry from Merill (Blood Magic and demons were unacceptable for this Hawke), and didn't help Anders in the Chantry despite earlier having mostly friendship from him.

 

Now, some background - this Hawke didn't give a **** about Kirwall, Mages and Templars war or any distant ideologies. She was concerned about her own well being, wealth and her family. She romanced Fenris, but it didn't work out (the bastard had sex with her and then left... and she didn't pursue it afterwards), had full rivalry with Varric, Merill and Aveline, Isabella stole the Tome of Koslun and didn't come back. 

Why side with the mages? Only because Bethany was in the Circle, so she wanted to protect the last family she had left. If there was an option to grab Bethany and leave Kirwall, she would do it. 

Why kill Anders? Because he pretty much stabbed her in the back (she wanted to help him separate himself from Justice, and in return he caused a war and killed hundreds of innocent people). So Hawke stabbed him in the back in a much more literal fashion. 

 

It was a pretty sad story to be honest. Hawke lost Carver, her Mother, and had no friends beside Anders and Fenris (Merill was unacceptably dangerous/stupid for her, Aveline too self-righteous, Varric didn't approve of her tendencies towards violence and Isabela... she wasn't in the party most of the time, just like Sebastian). Anders she killed for what he has done. Fenris on the other hand insisted on fighting her, despite them having a romance 3 years earlier, so she had to kill him (the game bugged out actually, and in the end Varric said that Fenris didn't leave Champions' side... while he actually was killed by said Champion - I hope there will be an option to remedy that in the Keep). 

 

Definately the first world state I will be importing to Inquisition.

[Arijharn]

I usually kill Anders. But now that I'm thinking about it, I think it's his easy way out. He did his thing, murdered a bunch of innocents (or not so innocents) and then just gets stabbed? There's no justice there, he doesn't have to live with his actions. He just gets out of it with the murderknife.

 

When I kill Anders I wonder who I'm doing it for? Am I doing it for those he has just killed, those who his actions will kill, am I doing it for myself or am I actually doing it for Anders? Death is too easy an escape for him is the answer I'm increasingly leading too. He escapes his blame with just a quick dagger, and even that doesn't even prevent the Right of Annulment anyway.

 

Anders deserves imprisonment in an even worse circle that he seeks to burn to the ground. He deserves to ponder his actions and agonize over them. That bastard deserves to be brought to account for his actions.

[PrinceLionheart]

I killed Anders because he was one slippery slope. He said it himself, he's consumed by vengeance and there's nothing that can satisfy it. There's no rehabilitation for him, it's only going to get worst and I refuse to wait and see what he'll followup with after blowing up a Chantry.

[Icefalcon]

I've only let him live once but I was amused by the fact that even Anders seemed surprised by the decision

[Willowhugger]

I think letting Anders live is also a pretty ****y thing to do to Sebastian if you have any friendly feelings toward him.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Because COUNTER-TERRORISTS WIN.

 

Sort of. Maybe a Pyrrhic victory but still.

[Kenshen]

Wasn't hard for me I wasn't a fan of Anders in DA:A and he was even worse in DA2.  Heck I would have rezzed him and killed him again just for the lol's if the game let me.

[Exile Isan]

Fenris said it best,,,,

 

Anders "You hate me because I'm a mage!"

Fenris "No, I hate you because you won't shut up about it."

 

A dagger in the back was too good for him.

 

I thought that was Carver that said that? Or does Fenris say it if Bethany is still alive? I wouldn't know. I rarely play anything but a mage because Carver is my favorite character.

 

Anyway I didn't kill Anders. He lives in all my mage!Hawke playthroughs because he's the only reason the Carver is still alive. Did I mention Carver is my favorite character?

[DracoAngel]

Fenris said it best,,,,

 

Anders "You hate me because I'm a mage!"

Fenris "No, I hate you because you won't shut up about it."

 

A dagger in the back was too good for him.

By the time the end came around I was SO done listening to him go on and on and on and ON! about mages and how they deserve freedom and this-that and the other thing. Yes, freedom is great and all, but by the Maker man! SHUT UP! It was like beating a dead horse. And trying to shove his beliefs and his "righteous cause" down everyone's throats and gets all offended when you don't agree with him 100%.

And then the incessant whining, ugh.

 

And then he goes and blows up the Chantry? Really Anders?! After all the headache throughout the game and then you go do this stunt. Yea, you're going to die.

 

For a while unless I romanced him, I killed him. Until I "romanced" Sebastian... After that I let Anders live just to spite Sebastian

[Xilizhra]

I didn't, never have, and never will.

 

 

Fenris said it best,,,,

 

Anders "You hate me because I'm a mage!"

Fenris "No, I hate you because you won't shut up about it."

 

A dagger in the back was too good for him.

That was Carver.

 

 

I think letting Anders live is also a pretty ****y thing to do to Sebastian if you have any friendly feelings toward him.

I will not murder a friend just because another friend is howling for his blood. And given that Sebastian effectively made a declaration of war against Kirkwall, I wish I could have responded to that.

[Doominike]

I never did because I fully support what he did

[Umbar]

My Mage!Hawke killed Anders because Anders murdered who-knows-how-many innocents and kickstarted a bloody war. It was a hard decision and it will haunt her forever, but Anders did not deserve to walk away after what he did. My Mage!Hawke wasn't particularly enamoured of Anders' politics anyhow, given that every other mage she met turned out to be blood mages or demon worshipers. In fact, if Meredith had not invoked the Right of Annulment, she just might have sided with the templars.

[Althix]

because liver is very tasty with quick roasting on an open fire

[Heavenly69]

Because I loved him in Awakening and He was ruined in DA2. Couldn't let him live

[Adanu]

Never killed Anders, never will.

[Jerkules17]

Loved Anders in awakening, I can't kill him despite his charming personality changing in DA:2 to a bpd who needs friends,yet one of my DA:2 companions left me for not killing him(in my canon file),and wants to burn the area by being the new king(I think?) of his home.

[Hazegurl]

All my Hawkes kill Anders. Only once did I let him live just to see how it turned out.  My Canon MageHawke befriended him because he understood where Anders was coming from but he thought Anders was a fool for allowing any spirit to possess him regardless of it's intent. He also witnessed multiple bouts of paranoid delusions coming from Anders along with some form of narcissistic personality disorder.

 

Fanatic personality disorder:

"An individual whose self-esteem was severely arrested during childhood, who usually displays major paranoid tendencies, and who holds on to an illusion of omnipotence. These people are fighting delusions of insignificance and lost value, and trying to re-establish their self-esteem through grandiose fantasies and self-reinforcement. When unable to gain recognition or support from others, they take on the role of a heroic or worshiped person with a grandiose mission."

 

I felt bad for Anders but I was mainly sick to death of hearing him talk and when he tried to kill that mage girl I was finally done with him for good. I stopped bringing him on missions and so on. He was a danger to other mages period and I didn't want to be held responsible for him turning on my companions or anyone else I brought him around. Especially since he and Fenris didn't get along...as a matter of fact, no one, not a single companion liked him and he brought the mood down whenever I gave in and took him somewhere, it made it real easy to leave him behind for the rest of the game. When he asked for Hawke's help to separate him from Justice, my Mage knew it had to be BS but gave it a shot and helped him out. Then I wanted to turn right back around when he tried to talk crap about Fenris. You just ask for my help then talk about my lover? Fluff you, Anders. I was glad Fenris was there to respond.

 

The moment he asked to help him sneak into the Chantry I knew he was up to something that was dangerous and no good. That whole exchange didn't end well and I tried to turn him in to the Cleric but was ignored.  I left it alone, did not speak to Anders again and moved on. Then he blows up the Chantry and murders innocent people, naturally he takes it all upon himself to take everyone's lives and revere himself as a champion of mages in typical fanatic narcissist fashion. He had zero remorse despite his hollow words, he didn't care about mages, it was done all for himself. Even if I helped the Mages, I sure wouldn't trust him with any Mage we save nor to watch my back. But I sided with the Templars, to mitigate the damage as I knew the mages would  resort to all sorts of blood magic, demon deals and so on to save themselves, any sane mages found, I wanted to do what I could to get them to safety. Anyway, Anders got the murder knife.  His final words did not surprise me at all.

 

I like to headcanon telling him that I'll make sure no one remembers his name. Just before the life fades from his pathetic body.

[Xilizhra]

Fanatic personality disorder:

"An individual whose self-esteem was severely arrested during childhood, who usually displays major paranoid tendencies, and who holds on to an illusion of omnipotence. These people are fighting delusions of insignificance and lost value, and trying to re-establish their self-esteem through grandiose fantasies and self-reinforcement. When unable to gain recognition or support from others, they take on the role of a heroic or worshiped person with a grandiose mission."

Doesn't fit; he knows very well that he isn't omnipotent.

 

 

The moment he asked to help him sneak into the Chantry I knew he was up to something that was dangerous and no good. That whole exchange didn't end well and I tried to turn him in to the Cleric but was ignored.  I left it alone, did not speak to Anders again and moved on. Then he blows up the Chantry and murders innocent people, naturally he takes it all upon himself to take everyone's lives and revere himself as a champion of mages in typical fanatic narcissist fashion. He had zero remorse despite his hollow words, he didn't care about mages, it was done all for himself. Even if I helped the Mages, I sure wouldn't trust him with any Mage we save nor to watch my back. But I sided with the Templars, to mitigate the damage as I knew the mages would  resort to all sorts of blood magic, demon deals and so on to save themselves, any sane mages found, I wanted to do what I could to get them to safety. Anyway, Anders got the murder knife.  His final words did not surprise me at all.

Ah, so your Hawke was worse than Anders could ever be. Worse, I daresay, than even the likes of Quentin. Also, there's no safety; any surviving mages will be made Tranquil.

 

 

I like to headcanon telling him that I'll make sure no one remembers his name. Just before the life fades from his pathetic body.

Too late. They remember his name in Asunder.

[Xilizhra]

The only reason I see for letting Anders live is for the offchance that the Inquisition kills him later.

 

Do I want the Classic, or the upgraded kill? 

Or, you know, because he's a friend and ally...

[Bigdoser]

Nope did not kill anders because I also believed there is no compromise and killing him is giving him an easy way out you made that choice so now you live with it and stick to the fight you started. 

[Hazegurl]

Doesn't fit; he knows very well that he isn't omnipotent.

 

 

I find it funny that this is the only thing you can you can pick apart from that list of dysfunction. It doesn't make the disorder false btw.
 

 

Ah, so your Hawke was worse than Anders could ever be. Worse, I daresay, than even the likes of Quentin. Also, there's no safety; any surviving mages will be made Tranquil.

 

Yeah cause trying to actually save a city instead of pretending to save it by saving your nut job buddy makes you so much better.   How about actually come up with a real reason why your choice is better instead of reducing your argument to fallacies.

 

Too late. They remember his name in Asunder.

 

 

As a nut job.