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[MEuniverse]

Hello

 

As a follow up to the previous "Your favorite enemies" thread (SP) I created earlier which can be found here.

I decided to make a multiplayer thread that contains all the enemies from the 4 factions.

 

 

pick your top enemies from each faction & explain why do like your choices, or if you like the whole faction than hmmm...

 

P.S. PVE will always be better than PVP .

Assault Trooper

 

Atlas

 

Centurion

 

Combat Engineer

 

Guardian

 

Nemesis

 

Phantom

 

Turret

 

Dragoon

Cannibal

 

Husk

 

Marauder

 

Ravager

 

Swarmers (This one is for Pearl )

 

Brute

 

Banshee

 Trooper 

 

 Captain 

 

 Abomination 

 

 Scion 

 

 Praetorian 

 

 Web 

 

 Seeker Swarms 

 

 Seeker Plague 

 

[MEuniverse]

Possessed Trooper

Possessed Captain

 

Possessed Abomination

 

Possessed Scion

 

Possessed Praetorian

Trooper

 

Rocket Trooper

 

Pyro

 

Hunter

 

Bomber

 

Prime

 

Turret

 

Drone

 

The store 

 

N7 Destroyer

[FasterThanFTL]

Cerberus:

 

Favorite: Phantom, single-handedly carries Cerberus.

Worst: Cerberus Turret, nothing needs to be said.

 

 

Geth:

 

Favorite: Geth Prime, dominates the players like no other enemy.

Worst: Geth Hunter & Combat Drone, sneaky stun locking bastards.

 

 

Reapers:

 

Favorite: Ravager, real boss of Reapers.

Worst: Swarmers & Ravager juice, bane of squishy kits.

 

 

Collectors:

 

Favorite: Possessed Praetorian, armed to the teeth.

Worst: Seekers, blocks my powers and hard to hit off-host.

[TheNightSlasher]

Cerberus: I HATE THE ENTIRE FACTION. Hands down the WORST design in the game. Geth stunlock from all directions, magnet grabs, hunters shooting in stasis, banshee warp through walls are trillion times better than the absolute sh*t that is cerberus. Hell, even ME3's ending, a ME playthrough that involves all squadmates dying (well, all that can die) before the end is more fun.

 

I guess that sums up cerberus.

 

Reapers: Favorite is probably cannibal. Brutes are alright too. I don't have any strong feelings either way abt this faction. Sometimes, they are fun but sometimes they are boring.

 

Geth: In concept, I like hunters but the fact that they are badly designed pisses me off. I actually like the idea of the faction in theory but it is very poorly implemented IMO. 

 

Collectors:   

Love everything in this faction. Collector trooper, abomination, captain, scion, praetorian, swarms and their possessed variants. One of the best things in ME3 MP. Perfect balance, least BS, the faction that actually hurts you for being reckless and improves your game. But once you work on your gameplay, the reward is sweet (no dumb DR that renders some guns useless, no ever-present stunlock and no enemies that magically teleport to sync kill you).

[Loufi]

Cerberus: I HATE THE ENTIRE FACTION. Hands down the WORST design in the game. Geth stunlock from all directions, magnet grabs, hunters shooting in stasis, banshee warp through walls are trillion times better than the absolute sh*t that is cerberus. Hell, even ME3's ending, a ME playthrough that involves all squadmates dying (well, all that can die) before the end is more fun.

 

I guess that sums up cerberus.

 

Reapers: Favorite is probably cannibal. Brutes are alright too. I don't have any strong feelings either way abt this faction. Sometimes, they are fun but sometimes they are boring.

 

Geth: In concept, I like hunters but the fact that they are badly designed pisses me off. I actually like the idea of the faction in theory but it is very poorly implemented IMO. 

 

Collectors:   

Love everything in this faction. Collector trooper, abomination, captain, scion, praetorian, swarms and their possessed variants. One of the best things in ME3 MP. Perfect balance, least BS, the faction that actually hurts you for being reckless and improves your game. But once you work on your gameplay, the reward is sweet (no dumb DR that renders some guns useless, no ever-present stunlock and no enemies that magically teleport to sync kill you).

Too bad we can't dislike a post  !

 

My overall favorite enemy : Phantoms, for the variety of their abilities / moves.

 

Favorite faction : Cerberus, by far the best designed faction. Greatest variety of ennemies, both melee range and sniping units, both organics and synthetics, all kind of defenses (shields, barriers, armor, health)...

 

Least favorite faction : Collectors, the most poorly designed faction. Only 5-6 different ennemies if I simplify, tons of BS (Praetorians' lasers fired from the anus, going through meters of cover and sync-killing you, their cannons taking some magical angles, etc.), Scions with the cheapest ability in the game (when they throw more grenades than an entire army) and the time reaction of a mollusc... Plus, we had already defeated them in ME2, they have nothing to do here ! I consider them only as a marginal faction of ME3 MP.   

[PHOEN1XK1NG]

Puggers. They'll get you killed more than any enemy ever could.

They're the biggest challenge in the game. Challenge=Fun.

[crashsuit]

Puggers

[Face of Darkness]

**** the collectors

[TheShadyEngineer]

Reapers- Cannibals, because they simply do not give a hoot. No other bad guy pauses for lunch in the middle of battle.

 

Cerby- Dragoons. They can't dodge powers but are courteous enough to roll anyway when one is fired at them, allowing for just enough time to line up a headshot or detonate an explosion with a follow up power. 

 

Geth- I don't have a favorite. They're all alright except for hunters. F*ck hunters.

 

Collectors- Possessed abominations. I don't think I have to explain that one.

[JRandall0308]

Cerberus: Nemesis, because I never get tired of the sound she makes when you kill her. Also her cowardice is amusing (except when it gets tedious at the end of a wave).

Honorable mention to Guardians. Their shield is a fun challenge to mail slot, or you can work on flanking them.

Phantoms are straight b.s.

Turrets are way too powerful for how long they last.

Reapers: Brutes are fun to fight. Banshees are tedious and their constant screaming grates on me. Marauders ****** me off when they elbow spam.

Geth: I like Pyros because they remind me of horror movie villains, slow but relentless. Also it's fun to blow them up.

Hunters are b.s. the way they ignore your powers.

Collectors: I hate them all. Collector Captains are the worst because they fill the map with those blasted Seeker Swarms that mess up auto aim, block powers, and constantly drone in my ear.

[TheTechnoTurian]

I hate them all. 

[me0120]

I only bought Mass Effect so I could kill Krogans but due to the.....limitations of ME3 I have to say my favorite would be getting Krogan teammates sync killed. Ergo, my favorite enemies would be Banshees and Phantoms.

[robarcool]

Phantoms: Oh, I just love to kill these guys in as brutal ways as I can and I think they are the biggest POS in the whole ME3 game. The developer who designed them was probably smoking some weed or was not in the right state of mind and I hope they don't ever return to ME4.

Wait, this isn't a thread about the most hated enemy, is it?

[TopTrog]

Cerberus: Phantoms. Tough b*tches, sometimes infuriating. Very dangerous, their varied attacks and rapid movement make them fun to fight.

Reapers: Ravagers. Most dangerous enemy in Reapers for me. If they did not have these aiming beams, I´d probably despise them with a passion.

Geth: My least favorite faction, no favorites there. Wish there was time for aerial bombardment.

Collectors: Possessed Abominations, hilarious.

[Salarian Jesus]

Collectors:   

Love everything in this faction. Collector trooper, abomination, captain, scion, praetorian, swarms and their possessed variants. One of the best things in ME3 MP. Perfect balance, least BS, the faction that actually hurts you for being reckless and improves your game. But once you work on your gameplay, the reward is sweet (no dumb DR that renders some guns useless, no ever-present stunlock and no enemies that magically teleport to sync kill you).

[Mordokai]

Collectors:   

Love everything in this faction. Collector trooper, abomination, captain, scion, praetorian, swarms and their possessed variants. One of the best things in ME3 MP. Perfect balance, least BS, the faction that actually hurts you for being reckless and improves your game. But once you work on your gameplay, the reward is sweet (no dumb DR that renders some guns useless, no ever-present stunlock and no enemies that magically teleport to sync kill you).

 

Just yesterday in a Collector match, I killed a trooper and was killed second later by his buddy, which had me rolling down the steps in London. That same trooper I killed moments before pulled a Jesus on me, picked himself up(even though the killfeed still showed that I killed him) and promptly executed me.

 

Karma's a ******, ain't it?

 

On topic, I like killing pretty much entire Cerberus faction... it pleases the sadist in me. I love shooting engineer in the chest, only to have his turret explode and send him dying, screaming and burning. Same effect can be achieved by blowing the turret out of his hands, walk to him calmly and blow his face off with shotgun. Nemeses are always fun to kill, with the way they scream. Really, entire Cerberus is a big bag of fun.

 

With Reapers... Shady makes a good point. It's always funny to watch cannibals stop for a drive-through, enabling you that easy kill.

 

Geth... I always enjoys outsneaking hunters and doing the grabs on them. I imagine if they could feel it, it would be like the ultimate humiliation for them.

 

Collectors... abominations are zombies... on fire! Scary ****! Doubly so with their possessed variant. The rest of the faction is just meh.

[crashsuit]

Phantoms

 

[Sailears]

Cerberus:
Favourite - phantoms - because ending them with a javelin headshot, omnitool backhand, shadow strike, headbutt, shotgun tp the face... and so on... is just sooo satisfying. Best thing = no armour! So can use all the biotic ragdolling. If their hand cannon wasn't overpowered and their sync more conditional I would consider them my favourite enemy in the game.
Worst - Atlases - I HATE atlas rockets. I don't like the sniper cannon especially when some centurion has covered the area in smoke.

Collectors:
Favourite - possessed abomination - I love decapitating them.
Worst - praetorians - because melee is suicide unless they are distracted by a teammate. All other sync kill bosses have tells and windows of opportunity to melee them - praetorians just sync you whenever the **** they feel like it. I must disagree with TheNightSlaher on praetorians - I think they are very badly designed because they do not allow let alone reward melee characters unless a teammate has distracted them, whereas all other sync kill enemies can be safely meleed with sufficient experience.

Geth:
Favourite - rocket trooper - they have shields to regen from, they are weak enough to be easily killed, they take cover a lot which means many grabs!
Worst - geth hunter - just cheap.
Overall very difficult to choose here - they're all in the worst category!

Reapers:
Favourite - husks - easy to play with.
Worst - ravagers - hate the acid pools when they die, swarmers are of course annoying.

[FullSpe3D]

Cerberus: Hate them all, except maybe the standard Trooper and Centurion. They're all horrible but Phantoms are the absolute worst. When one specific enemy from one specific faction forces you to bring an Acolyte/Scorpion on host, you know something is horribly wrong with the game balance.

 

Geth: When they aren't ninja spawning behind you on solo's, pyro's are actually ok. Basic Troopers also aren't that bad. Geth turrets are the worst enemies in this faction.

 

Reapers: Husks are such a horrible waste of time. They make wave 9 Reaper plat drag on forever. Favourite enemy is probably the Ravager.

 

Collectors: Abombs By far my favourite. I also love Scions and Praetorians because they do an awesome job of killing puggernauts. Least favourite enemy is probably Possessed Captains. They (and their Seeker Swarms) have way too much health and the Captains really shouldn't deal that much damage.

[Dalakaar]

Collectors:   

Love everything in this faction. Collector trooper, abomination, captain, scion, praetorian, swarms and their possessed variants. One of the best things in ME3 MP. Perfect balance, least BS, the faction that...

Bit sad that buttlazers qualifies as least BS. (Note; I'm disagreeing with you either.   )

[Dalakaar]

P.S. PVE will always be easier than PVP .

F.

T.

F.

Y.

 

Albeit the ME Universe doesn't have any PvP to begin with...

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

It's really the wrong question. Because it's not the individual units that make the factions fun or otherwise, it's the combinations of enemies and the techniques one needs to evolve to deal with them.

 

The things that most people hate as BS are the parts where the faction breaks part of the game to its advantage.

 

For example, Collectors do a lot of damage, fair enough. But then to regenerate shields, one has to take cover. At which point a Seeker Swarm will take away your powers and health, and a Scion will magically carpet the area round you with a dozen grenades (since it can't see you and you can't see it, this is mega BS) that will stagger you out of cover so that you can be taken down by that Captain that just spawned five metres behind you.

 

Another one, Geth Hunters. The problem isn't that they are sneaky, it's that their cloak makes them invincible. You can't melee them and often grenades don't work when they are cloaked. This is BS because the Hunter is still there. (same reason Stasis is wrongly set up but that's a different thread.)

 

Yet another, the Phantom hand cannon. The Phantom is a tough opponent that has to be handled carefully, but her hand cannon is overpowered so that most times you hear it, you're down already.

 

A general observation about the responses to this thread. I don't think that they can serve as a good guide to the game and its balance. The reason is that on the one hand, people who are in the top 0.1% of players clearly know the game better than anyone else and so when they offer their impressions and opinions, it's worth listening. On the other hand, being so much more skilled than the average, things that are fearsomely difficult for the other 99.9% of players may not bother them.

[Sailears]

It's really the wrong question. Because it's not the individual units that make the factions fun or otherwise, it's the combinations of enemies and the techniques one needs to evolve to deal with them.

The things that most people hate as BS are the parts where the faction breaks part of the game to its advantage.

For example, Collectors do a lot of damage, fair enough. But then to regenerate shields, one has to take cover. At which point a Seeker Swarm will take away your powers and health, and a Scion will magically carpet the area round you with a dozen grenades (since it can't see you and you can't see it, this is mega BS) that will stagger you out of cover so that you can be taken down by that Captain that just spawned five metres behind you.

Another one, Geth Hunters. The problem isn't that they are sneaky, it's that their cloak makes them invincible. You can't melee them and often grenades don't work when they are cloaked. This is BS because the Hunter is still there. (same reason Stasis is wrongly set up but that's a different thread.)

Yet another, the Phantom hand cannon. The Phantom is a tough opponent that has to be handled carefully, but her hand cannon is overpowered so that most times you hear it, you're down already.

A general observation about the responses to this thread. I don't think that they can serve as a good guide to the game and its balance. The reason is that on the one hand, people who are in the top 0.1% of players clearly know the game better than anyone else and so when they offer their impressions and opinions, it's worth listening. On the other hand, being so much more skilled than the average, things that are fearsomely difficult for the other 99.9% of players may not bother them.

Yes, faction synergy is the real thing to look at - otherwise it's like saying which organ in your body is most important...

However take threads like this for what they are - subjective and dependant on individual builds/skills/playstyle.
Like a swimmer will have different priorities than a badminton player - ok terrible analogy but the point is favourite/worst threads are always subjective.

[Quarian Master Race]

Collectors would be a lot more fun if possessed units trolled you with Harbinger's voice.

"You will know pain/ This hurts you"- *launches seeker plague*
"We are the harbinger of your destruction/ Your death is assured/ Face your annihilation"- Possessed Abomb
"Your attacks are primitive"- Collector captain making a comparison with your gun and his Collector Rife MMMCXIV
"The forces of the universe bend to me"- buttlazor hits you through several meters of cover

[Ashevajak]

Possessed Abominations, for sure.  Even if the ever present possibility of trolling team mates were not there, I'd like them just for the fact they go "boom" in a really impressive way.

 

As for the other factions...the Geth bomber is brilliantly annoying.  It's not quite as cheesy as the Geth Hunter/triple-tapping Rocket Trooper, or a stagger-machine like the Prime, but I think whichever Bioware dev thought them up was being especially evil that day, and I have to congratulate them for that. 

 

For Cerberus...Phantoms are too cheesy, Dragoons are kinda fun but their mindless aggression makes them easy targets when not part of a Phantom/Dragoon deathsquad.  So I'll say the Nemesis.  Yes, she's weak.  She's annoyingly hard to kill due to her cowardice.  And she's pretty much harmless on her own.  But get caught by a triangle of them, and you'll learn the meaning of true pain.  Not to mention when they shieldgate you as you're rushing by a turret or just before an Atlas rocket hits you.  I believe Cerberus were originally intended to be the "tactical" faction, using team-work to defeat the player, and the Nemesis is pretty perfect in that role.

 

And for Reapers...I don't know I really have a favourite, but if I were forced to choose, I'd say the Brute.  I'd say Banshees, but I find sync-kills cheap and cheesy, and once you take that from her she's not a real threat.  Brutes, on the other hand, still have that "cover-busting" quality to them, which forces a player to keep on the move, and possibly put them in the open where a Ravager or Marauder deathsquad can take them down.