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#26
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I guess my CSR Krogan Adept won't get much love here then :(  Someone recommended it in a CSR thread and it's awesome.

 

As for Carnage, I max it on everything besides Kroguard.



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Krogandontsnipe

 
 

Don't Krogan define sniping as "beating someone around the head with a Widow"?

 
 
The Tuchanka Dictionary clearly states that anything beyond headbutt range is at sniping distance (and the Claymoar is the best sniper rifle).

 

Widow-Fencing has been dismissed a long time ago. Those of us with a hangover headache use hammers nowadays.

 

Carnage is an improved version of Concussive Shot. That's why Krogan use it. Unfortunately, the human racists at Bioware have sabotaged its cooldown in a poor attempt to make us look bad.


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I use it on the 66606 Krogan Soldier and 46646 BF3 Soldier, but I skip it on the other two kits. BF3 Carnage primes, and then the grenade detonates. On the Krogan I grenade first, then Carnage to detonate. They're good against Reapers and Collectors because of all the bonus armor damage.

Right. I forgot the Frag Grenades can detonate. I was like "I know Carnage can prime ammo, but it can't detonate itself, can it?"

Thank you for clarifying.



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Stop me if this has already been mentioned, but Carnage has decent stagger force, enough to stagger an Atlas.



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I usually put 3 to 4 points in it unless I really want it maxed. 



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Also, how does the BF3 6+6 fire explosion? None of it's powers prime it, and ammo is only level 1.

Carnage primes, but it has a cooldown too long to use with it's short prime window, frag grenades don't care though, so carnage > frag grenade for a level 12 FE on demand, It is best used with shield disruptor frags, which destroy the enemies shields before the FE burns through their armor.



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Carnage primes, but it has a cooldown too long to use with it's short prime window, frag grenades don't care though, so carnage > frag grenade for a level 12 FE on demand, It is best used with shield disruptor frags, which destroy the enemies shields before the FE burns through their armor.


The only enemies that have both shields and armor are bosses and pyros, though. Bosses don't get their shields down with one frag, and pyros is just one guy.

Personally, I prefer armor damage with frags too, so I can just wreak havoc on reapers/collectors spawns.

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I miss TooLazy4Name....

 

 

I spec my BF3 soldier out of Carnage.



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Don't Krogan define sniping as "beating someone around the head with a Widow"?

 

Nah- "sniping", for a Krogan, means using the Graal or GPS. 


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Also krogan definition of diplomacy, bartering and seduction.

 

Oh blue rose of Illium, may your body be beaten mightily with my giant weapon...

 

 

 

 

... or something.


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Nah- "sniping", for a Krogan, means using the Graal or GPS. 

 

+1 for the Graal, -1 for the beep-boop-blaster ... overall, no thumbs up from me :P



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Oh blue rose of Illium, may your body be beaten mightily with my giant weapon...

 

 

 

 

... or something.

 

Well, I guess it can work... for given value of "beaten" and "giant weapon"... if you catch my drift :P

 

Hey, nobody said it needed to be subtle.



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The only enemies that have both shields and armor are bosses and pyros, though. Bosses don't get their shields down with one frag, and pyros is just one guy.

Personally, I prefer armor damage with frags too, so I can just wreak havoc on reapers/collectors spawns.


You forgot Geth Bombers. They make Krogans scream like the Asaris.

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You forgot Geth Bombers. They make Krogans scream like the Asaris.


Apply the hammer directly to the bomber.
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I spec it on the Venom Krogan Soldier, for setting off fire explosions.  Doesn't get spec'ed on any other kit.



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+1 for the Graal, -1 for the beep-boop-blaster ... overall, no thumbs up from me :P

Hey, I'd never use it on a Krogan personally, but I also wouldn't have a HUGE problem with another Krogan using one- it is a shotgun, at least. As long as you're using a shotgun, you're fine by me.



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Hey, I'd never use it on a Krogan personally, but I also wouldn't have a HUGE problem with another Krogan using one- it is a shotgun, at least. As long as you're using a shotgun, you're fine by me.

 

Warlord with a Disciple?   :P



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You forgot Geth Bombers. They make Krogans scream like the Asaris.

 

Blerp, stupid Geth. I also forgot about those cheaters.



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I always max it on the Vorcha and currently use an AR-less BF3 build with the Venom shotgun. Solid power.



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I spec my BF3 soldier out of Carnage.

 

Why even bother with the kit then when there are two other human soldiers where you can get the same exact build? It's not like there 15 ways to spec a HS like you could say, a turian sentinel.  And you can recolor them, too, instead of having that stupid burning armpit.

 

 

You forgot Geth Bombers. They make Krogans laugh like maniacs.

 

FTFY.

Melee krogans (the best kind of krogans) can easily one shot them. I actively look for them if rage is either gone or ending pretty soon. If they drop bombs, drop them with a backhand and don't get hurt by their puny bombs. My favorite wave to krogan is geth, gold, wave 8. Nothing but hunters, pyros and bombers. No primes or tripleshot bastard rocket troopers to shoot you from afar like pyjaks.



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Warlord with a Disciple?   :P

Whats a Disciple?


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Fun fact: Back when I ran my Krogan Soldier Carnageless and my Krogan Sentinel without Incinerate ("Pfft, armor slows cooldowns too much anyways, I can focus on grenades and ignore cooldowns completely!") I actually used to run the Javelin on them simply since it was my 2nd highest UR. It still is (VIII - My Hurricane is X) but now I actually give a crap about cooldowns. It was my long range weapon for when I had to carry the team and did not want to get too close and personal with multiple threats at once.

As for now, though, I run...

Krogan Adept: Hurricane. 200% cooldown on a warp/shockwave BE with THAT gun, close range goodness for melee and barrier detonations.

Krogan Soldier: Piranha. Yes, I'm a pyjak for not using the Claymore on a Krogan. Sue me.

Krogan Sentinel: ???? (I'm meaning to rework his build. On the fence with what to do. I don't want to make him a clone of my adept/soldier)
Krogan Warlord: Ultimate Pyjak Time: N7 Eagle with melee stunner. The faster cooldown over a shotgun omni blade = hammer is charged 100% of the time, no exceptions. Worth doing +25% damage instead of +50%.

Krogan Vanguard: Acolyte. What's that? It's not a shotgun? It blows stuff up (AoE ammo priming + BC AoE detonate), so it's krogan approved!



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I might give Armor Power Damage KroSol a try.  I've been neglecting him because Harrier BatSol, but Incendiary Reegar > Carnage will shred Phantoms as well as Ballistic Blades I reckon.

 

 


Krogan Vanguard: Acolyte. What's that? It's not a shotgun? It blows stuff up (AoE ammo priming + BC AoE detonate), so it's krogan approved!

 

Fun Trick:  Aim a charged up Acolyte at your Shielded Target (a Marauder, for example), then activate your Biotic Charge.  The Acolyte will automatically discharge its shot in a straight line, demolishing your target's shields with sniper-like accuracy, right before your Biotic Charge connects and detonates whatever ammo power you just applied.



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I like Carnage in ME1. Past that, I've tried using it and it just never feels right - the power itself isn't amazing, the classes that it's on usually don't have any real synergy with it, and I find that Carnage's cooldown gets in the way of the other power(s).

 

If Carnage was on a separate cooldown altogether, I would probably put 6 ranks into it on just about any class with it, though.