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I would love it if the Warden and Hawke were recruited into the inquisition and made field commanders. We need to send a team to take care of business?

Send the Warden here. Have Hawke move to this fortress and reinforce it before moving to this area.

Then seeing them in Skyhold talking to Leliana, Varric, Cullen, Morrigan or with their respective LI? That would e great to me.

An speaking to them and asking them about the adventures that made ten famous would give Bioware a chance to either clean up some plot holes or poke fun at themselves for a few things with the answers.

I think it would be great to have them around but not directly controllable after they've been recruited.

 

Can you imagine the s*itstorm that would ensue on these boards if the Warden or Hawke got sent on a mission and failed?  Even if it was just a fluke randomization, the fallout would be absurd.



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I would love it if the Warden and Hawke were recruited into the inquisition and made field commanders. We need to send a team to take care of business?

Send the Warden here. Have Hawke move to this fortress and reinforce it before moving to this area.

Then seeing them in Skyhold talking to Leliana, Varric, Cullen, Morrigan or with their respective LI? That would e great to me.

An speaking to them and asking them about the adventures that made ten famous would give Bioware a chance to either clean up some plot holes or poke fun at themselves for a few things with the answers.

I think it would be great to have them around but not directly controllable after they've been recruited.

 

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Finding Hawke will be key to solving the mage-templar conflict, count on it. Perhaps it will even be a companion quest for Cassandra.

 

How? Hawke failed as a mediator in DA2. There's no reason to expect Hawke will do better in Inquisition. Although...it does occur to me throwing Hawke under the bus to whatever side wants his head might be useful.



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How? Hawke failed as a mediator in DA2. There's no reason to expect Hawke will do better in Inquisition. Although...it does occur to me throwing Hawke under the bus to whatever side wants his head might be useful.

 

I think the Mage-Templar War will probably be about as long as the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest or Werewolves.

It's a small part of the game.

More an Epilogue to DA2.



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Really not a fan of the notion of Hawke or Warden becoming agents of the Inquisitor.

Want them to retain their own independence.

I'd love to see my Hawke side by side with his Isabela when he does appear.



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I personally love it.

Of course, I admit part of this would also be establishing that the Warden and Hawke aren't adverse to being part of something larger.

It would also eliminate the idea that they're shaking the entire world on their own.

They have to work with a larger group to achieve results.


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I think BioWare needs to leave well enough alone sometimes and stop forcing returning characters into super-important roles just for nostalgia's sake.

The coincidence level becomes absurd. And I mean old companions just as much as I do old PC's.

Alistair doesn't need to team up with Varric and Isabela on a really awkward quest; Leliana doesn't need to become the left hand of the Divine; Sten doesn't need to become Arishok; Wynne doesn't need to play an integral role in abolishing the Circle through her son; Anders doesn't need to be the one to start a multi national war; Hawke and the Warden do not need to seek out and assist every big crisis.

Let them fade away. There's an entire world of potentially interesting new characters that don't need to be sucked into the MC's special snowflake vortex.

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I'd say the Warden can become too many things in too many places to really have an important role in Inquisition. Hawke however, is a different animal.

 

I think it could be fun is Hawke is in fact, a "secret" follower as Loghain was in Origins (available only near the end of the game).

 

But i want at least a glimpse of Isabella, my Hawke would not wander too much far away from her. :P


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#34
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Can you imagine the s*itstorm that would ensue on these boards if the Warden or Hawke got sent on a mission and failed?  Even if it was just a fluke randomization, the fallout would be absurd.

 

I would laugh SO HARD.



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Call me a silly monkey but i wouldnt mimd a avengers like deal seems like a fun idea

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I think BioWare needs to leave well enough alone sometimes and stop forcing returning characters into super-important roles just for nostalgia's sake.

The coincidence level becomes absurd. And I mean old companions just as much as I do old PC's.

Alistair doesn't need to team up with Varric and Isabela on a really awkward quest; Leliana doesn't need to become the left hand of the Divine; Sten doesn't need to become Arishok; Wynne doesn't need to play an integral role in abolishing the Circle through her son; Anders doesn't need to be the one to start a multi national war; Hawke and the Warden do not need to seek out and assist every big crisis.

Let them fade away. There's an entire world of potentially interesting new characters that don't need to be sucked into the MC's special snowflake vortex.

<_<

 

Leliana becoming Left Hand of the Divine makes sense.  As does Sten becoming Arishok.  As does Wynne playing an integral role.  And Anders' story is awesomely tragic, so I like where they took that story.

 

Will agree with you about Isabella, Varric, and Alistair.  That comic was fun, but what?  Why did they team up?  



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My Warden is ruling beside Alistair, and my Hawke is either still on the run with Anders, or they've found somewhere to hide for a while.  Unless their appearances stick to and further those 2 storylines (storylines of my making) I'd rather not see them at all.  Leave me with my headcanon.  Even the prospect of an Avengers-like joint effort doesn't really appeal, as there's no way they could fit that in in such a way as to take account of the variations between all the versions of the Warden and/or Hawke out there.


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The ideal use of the Warden and Hawke is to use them again. They are characters within the game world, and should remain so. They shouldn't just disappear for convenience's sake.


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Hawke playing a part in Inquisition makes a whole lot of sense and I'm very glad the champion has a part to play. Cassandra, Leliana, and the rest of the proto-Inquisition were in Kirkwall looking for him/her so they're obviously important. Moreover, they've vanished under mysterious circumstances. Hawke's story had almost no closure. Neither did the warden's, arguably, if you weren't a male warden who romanced Morrigan.

 

Ideally, they'll play their part and we'll get to control them in one last battle with our past PCs. It'd probably be with that weird spider thing. I don't really know how their skills will translate into Inquisition's gameplay. Maybe a special ability or two from their spec trees? I kind of doubt the keep even has an option for the PC's specializations. If Hawke and the warden survive whatever was going on in that trailer, I think they'll either go off to help the war effort in their own way or offer the Inquisition aid. Cassandra originally wanted Hawke to help with the peace talks between the templars and mages, maybe he/she will actually get to do that. Hawke's personality is pretty nailed down.



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I don't care if the Warden appears, since the voice/personality thing will be an issue (at least an uncontrolled Hawke can still act "in character" going by their DA2 personality type), but I want the DAO people to mention them.  A bunch.  Not just a line or two.



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The ideal role for the Warden?

 

I really think the Warden would probably work best in a secondary/supplementary role to another character.

 

Like being an extremely overpowered bodyguard to Morrigan if that was your choice.



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One other thing I would like to see is Hawke and the Warden to acknlowledge their family ties if you played a Mage Warden.

They are cousins after all.

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I think BioWare needs to leave well enough alone sometimes and stop forcing returning characters into super-important roles just for nostalgia's sake.

The coincidence level becomes absurd. And I mean old companions just as much as I do old PC's.

Alistair doesn't need to team up with Varric and Isabela on a really awkward quest; Leliana doesn't need to become the left hand of the Divine; Sten doesn't need to become Arishok; Wynne doesn't need to play an integral role in abolishing the Circle through her son; Anders doesn't need to be the one to start a multi national war; Hawke and the Warden do not need to seek out and assist every big crisis.

Let them fade away. There's an entire world of potentially interesting new characters that don't need to be sucked into the MC's special snowflake vortex.

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please Bioware don't listen to this guy/girl because he is just wrong

so what games are supposed to be realistic now? so what if its unrealistic that we see soo many of them again and that they have influential positions

 

the world and the characters live on after we as the Warden ended the Blight they don't just fade away

And we get plenty of new characters witch each installment I don't see where the problem is we always have new companions, new villians etc.

 

the connections between the games is actually one of the reasons I like DA so much in other game franchises its a new installment with compeltely new characters and maybe some shallow cameos but not with DA

The characters don't just sit on their asses in the time between the games they actually do stuff and participate in current conflicts

 

 

 


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#44
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I would love it if the Warden and Hawke were recruited into the inquisition and made field commanders. We need to send a team to take care of business?

Send the Warden here. Have Hawke move to this fortress and reinforce it before moving to this area.

Then seeing them in Skyhold talking to Leliana, Varric, Cullen, Morrigan or with their respective LI? That would e great to me.

An speaking to them and asking them about the adventures that made ten famous would give Bioware a chance to either clean up some plot holes or poke fun at themselves for a few things with the answers.

I think it would be great to have them around but not directly controllable after they've been recruited.

Hell yeah! The Hero of Ferelden, the Champion of Kirkwall and The Inquisitor! The new Holy Trinity!

 

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I would like them to have quests related to them, rather then just an split second cameo, and I get the feeling they will be companions, but not more then an fight or two. 

 

I will accept no less then something like this when they show up to help the Inquisitor:

 

avengers.gif

 

This is ideal.  And why I chose to have each of the three PCs be a different class.  For an epic Warrior/Rogue/Mage circling moment.  



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This is ideal. And why I chose to have each of the three PCs be a different class. For an epic Warrior/Rogue/Mage circling moment.


I just want to see what they do with depicting my dual wielding, plate armored arcane warrior...

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I could work with Hawke being recruited into the Inquisition as a possible role for him/her. The Warden is a different story though. Being the Warden Commander of Fereldan, he/she has his/her duty against the darkspawn and such. An alliance between the Wardens and the Inquisition, rather than our Warden becoming a subordinate member of the Inquisition, would make much more sense in my opinion. 



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Not me. The Inquisition is the Justice League and the Inquisitor is Superman.

 

Then the Warden Noble is Batman...you know..cause dead parents. And if the DC animated universe has taught me anything Batman owns all things.



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This is ideal.  And why I chose to have each of the three PCs be a different class.  For an epic Warrior/Rogue/Mage circling moment.  

 

Yep, The Warden was a Rogue, Hawke is a Mage, and my Inquistor will be a Warrior.



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I feel like the Warden and Hawke are more important to the world of Thedas than to be simply put in the Inquisition as agents. They probably have their own agendas. I'm guessing we will see Hawke and maybe catch up with him a little bit, but that's probably going to be it. I believe they said we will see the Warden again at some point but we don't know if we will see him in this game. Both the Warden and Hawke disappeared to somewhere, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Inquisitor did the same.