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#126
Coyotebay

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Yes.

And that's the contradiction of the storytelling.

 

As for organics always creating synthetics, what difference does it make?  There will always be wars between people; should an alien overlord wipe out mankind every thousand years and send us back to the stone age so we don't wipe ourselves out completely?  In ME, there will always be conflicts between organics and organcis, organics and synthetics, synthetics and synthetics.  To buy into Starbrat's argument, you have to agree that synthetics destroying all organics is inevitable, when it's not.  It's possible for one organic race to annihilate the other organics, for an organic race to defeat synthetics (you not only get to do it once, but *twice* in ME3 if you choose to take the Quarians over the Geth in addition to defeating the Reapers at the end).  An organic civilization just tens of thousands of years old was able to build the technology to destroy a billion years old race of synthetics, proving that organics can win a war with synthetics.  And even if synthetics win, it doesn't mean the end for organic life.  Within the ranks of synthetics, there may be groups who want the preservation of organic life, some may ally themselves with organics against other synthetics.  Even the all-powerful Reapers have a finite existence.  What happens when a master race from one of the other billions of galaxies out there comes into ours, and has technology to turn Reapers into soup?  It's really no different than how it works in a world without synthetic life forms.



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And that's the contradiction of the storytelling.

 

As for organics always creating synthetics, what difference does it make?  There will always be wars between people; should an alien overlord wipe out mankind every thousand years and send us back to the stone age so we don't wipe ourselves out completely?  In ME, there will always be conflicts between organics and organcis, organics and synthetics, synthetics and synthetics.  To buy into Starbrat's argument, you have to agree that synthetics destroying all organics is inevitable, when it's not.  It's possible for one organic race to annihilate the other organics, for an organic race to defeat synthetics (you not only get to do it once, but *twice* in ME3 if you choose to take the Quarians over the Geth in addition to defeating the Reapers at the end).  An organic civilization just tens of thousands of years old was able to build the technology to destroy a billion years old race of synthetics, proving that organics can win a war with synthetics.  And even if synthetics win, it doesn't mean the end for organic life.  Within the ranks of synthetics, there may be groups who want the preservation of organic life, some may ally themselves with organics against other synthetics.  Even the all-powerful Reapers have a finite existence.  What happens when a master race from one of the other billions of galaxies out there comes into ours, and has technology to turn Reapers into soup?  It's really no different than how it works in a world without synthetic life forms.

They were created because the Leviathans could not control synthetics as they could organics. Their puppets were creating synthetics and getting wiped out, thus Leviathans created the AI to stop that from happening. I guess it's just a matter of incorrect wording of the command back when the AI was created. Leviathans didn't consider themselves to be a part of the equation and them creating the AI was the same thing their lesser subjects were doing. 



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The And I can't help thinking, "Was the whole point of putting in EDI's character and romance arc and peace on Rannoch a build up to a place where peace was only possible through Synthesis?"


I don't know if this can actually be true, since those plot points were apparently written before the endings were finalized.

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I don't know if this can actually be true, since those plot points were apparently written before the endings were finalized.

Still IMHO it gives very much that impression

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They were created because the Leviathans could not control synthetics as they could organics. Their puppets were creating synthetics and getting wiped out, thus Leviathans created the AI to stop that from happening. I guess it's just a matter of incorrect wording of the command back when the AI was created. Leviathans didn't consider themselves to be a part of the equation and them creating the AI was the same thing their lesser subjects were doing. 

 

The Leviathan aren't the smartest beings. I mean, geez, if the only instruction you give your AI is 'preserve life at all costs', that's just bound to go wrong.

 

'Preserve life at all costs in their current form, you can not adjust them in any way' would've prevented a lot, if not everything. (and would probably have lead to the AI destroying itself, cause that way the problem can't be solved.. but that's a different discussion :P)


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