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Tranquils -something ive been wondering.


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FireXeN

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Ive been wondering about the tranquils and how they are cut out from the fade. Since in Inquisition the Fade is breached to the world 

does that mean that all the tranquils will return to their normal self ? (if you remember ander's mage tranquil bud in DA 2 returned to himself when  justice interved in the and claimed that anders "brought  a piece of the fade to the world") 



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Willowhugger

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I imagine the Mages have been curing the Tranquil to up their military strength anyway.


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HiroVoid

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I imagine the Mages have been curing the Tranquil to up their military strength anyway.

Wouldn't be surprised if we see an encounter where this backfires.



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Wouldn't be surprised if we see an encounter where this backfires.

 

It wouldn't be Thedas if doing something good didn't result in evil triumphing.

 

No wait, that's just Kirkwall.


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Wasn't tranquility shown to be curable in Asunder?


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Since Justice could cure tranquility by being around, I'm wondering if Cole can do the same.


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Willowhugger

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Since Justice could cure tranquility by being around, I'm wondering if Cole can do the same.

 

Any spirit touching a Tranquil, it turns out, permanently cures it.

 

Ironically, Anders would have to live with the guilt that he could have cured Karl easily.


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I thought so too but since we'll be able to sentence a mage (AdrianAdrianAdrianAdrianAdrian) to become Tranquil, maybe it's not as widespread or doesn't happen at all.



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Willowhugger

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I thought so too but since we'll be able to sentence a mage (AdrianAdrianAdrianAdrianAdrian) to become Tranquil, maybe it's not as widespread or doesn't happen at all.

 

I imagine that may happen after the Civil War ends.



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It wouldn't be Thedas if doing something good didn't result in evil triumphing.

 

No wait, that's just Kirkwall.

It's not just Kirkwall.

*Looks at Bhelam. <_<



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Any spirit touching a Tranquil, it turns out, permanently cures it.

 

Ironically, Anders would have to live with the guilt that he could have cured Karl easily.

If he is still alive.



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If the tranquil can be cure the fade tear, I can imagine we'll come to a situation where there are two cured tranquils, one that wants to be cured and one that wants to be tranquil again, and then making the choice to cure or revert them before you seal the fade tear.

Would be ironic if, in that hypothetical situation, curing thr tranquil was the wrong choice because the person was a legitimate criminal and maleficarum and you helped release them back into the world.

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The cured tranquil dont usually wish be to made tranquil again.



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I thought so too but since we'll be able to sentence a mage (AdrianAdrianAdrianAdrianAdrian) to become Tranquil, maybe it's not as widespread or doesn't happen at all.

Sorry, when was that mentioned?  I remember hearing about the inquisitor being called on to pass judgement, but don't remember what the cases were.  Regarding Adrian, I think she should be judged for a civil crime, not a magical one.  She wasn't accessing forbidden texts and consorting with demons, she killed someone and tried to pin the blame on someone else.  Let the punishment suit the crime.  If the penalty for cold-blooded murder is death, making her tranquil is not justice, it's just pointless mutilation.


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Cainhurst Crow

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The cured tranquil dont usually wish be to made tranquil again.

 

Which is why the subversion of the trope is not only good, but necessary.



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Sorry, when was that mentioned?  I remember hearing about the inquisitor being called on to pass judgement, but don't remember what the cases were.  Regarding Adrian, I think she should be judged for a civil crime, not a magical one.  She wasn't accessing forbidden texts and consorting with demons, she killed someone and tried to pin the blame on someone else.  Let the punishment suit the crime.  If the penalty for cold-blooded murder is death, making her tranquil is not justice, it's just pointless mutilation.

"Though Lee and Laidlaw enjoy discussing the more lighthearted examples, not all judgments end with a smile. You can exile characters and execute them, and in one case, you can sentence a mage to Tranquility"

http://www.gameinfor...on-skyhold.aspx

 

We'll have to disagree regarding Adrian. Give me that option and my finger will click that button at speeds that would enable intergalactic travel.



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This strikes me as a good question (though I haven't read any of the book bast The Stolen Throne nor the World of Thedas). In DA2, Justice manifesting temporarily brought Karl's emotions, personality, and (presumably) his magical ability saying it felt like Anders (though it was Justice) brought a piece of the Fade with him.

 

So presumably, massive rends all over Thedas could really cause chaos for Tranquil mages, right? It would be interesting to see that explored, even if it's not a major plot point.



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"Though Lee and Laidlaw enjoy discussing the more lighthearted examples, not all judgments end with a smile. You can exile characters and execute them, and in one case, you can sentence a mage to Tranquility"

http://www.gameinfor...on-skyhold.aspx

 

We'll have to disagree regarding Adrian. Give me that option and my finger will click that button at speeds that would enable intergalactic travel.

Thanks for the link.  I did read it before, but not in depth and I probably got sidetracked by the goat.  Just like I got sidetracked from the topic when I saw the name Adrian, who I hope does get brought to justice.

 

As far as the nature of tranquility and if the mind is cut off from the Fade, if a cure is possible without risking demonic possession or madness, or desirable, I don't think there are any hard facts yet.  I wonder if Solas will be able to shed any light on the relationship between magical ability, the Fade and tranquility.



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Wouldn't be surprised if we see an encounter where this backfires.

 

This should backfire, mages are made tranquil because they're too weak or too stupid to handle their powers.  Stupid, weak people will be the fall of their army, like Orsino.


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I think to cure tranquillity you have to be touched in your mind by a spirit/demon through the veil.     There were plenty of tranquil wandering around the White Spire at the same time as Cole without him having any affect on them.   Admittedly he'd never actually touched them/connected to their minds.     Pharamond seemed to think that was all that was required and that he had been cured before becoming possessed.   Then Rhys formulated the idea that if all it required was a demon making contact with the mind, presumably you could do the same with a spirit, provided you could get it interested.

 

Karl seemed slightly different, although it was definitely contact with Justice that temporarily restored his faculties.   The fact that it was temporary indicates that this wasn't the same thing that happened with Pharamond.     So I'd guess that if a tranquil was standing very close to a Fade tear they would temporarily recover their normal mind but if they moved away/it was sealed, they would lose it again.    However, if they attracted the attention of one of the Fade creatures pouring through and it touched their mind, the restoration would be permanent.    The reason this doesn't occur automatically is because tranquil aren't usually attractive to Fade creatures because of their lack of emotion, so they/someone would have to go out of their way to attract them.  

 

Don't ask me why there is this difference; I am only going by the way it has been portrayed in DA2 and Asunder.   If Rhys isn't killed at the beginning, may be we will run into him and he will explain further.