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Has enough time passed for people to forgive the endings?


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Beneaththetrees

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In the beginning we all embraced a new universe.

All were overjoyed by the richness of the experience.

We took it as our own And projected our souls into this mighty Commander.

A Shepard of the people if you may.

 

We fought our way through a galaxy of possibilities.

And in the end we faced an enemy more terrifying than we could perceive.

In the shape of a giant mechanical squid it threatened not just us but all that was.

Well that we just could not have.

So with the aid of our faithfull fellows we did slay this beast.

But it had many cousins in dark space.

That is at least what we tried to get trought to the thick headed cousil of space.

But to patrol the boarders we were sent.

And a while until the next chapter we had to wait.

 

 

When the next chapter did arrive.

Within the first few minutes we did found out that our Shepard had to die.

Well that was an odd thing said I(And many others I must assume did the same as I)

But it was only like a minor fleshwound to our mighty commander to just shurg off like swatting a fly.

Then founding out that we owed our lives to an Illusive master mind did we set forth to find.

An enemy more insectlike than the big squids that was fought before and still held an ominous presence in our minds.

So forth did we set to find the most biggest group of badasses of space and time.

Only to find that the squids were behind this all the time.

Down did we take the Insect servants lab in time.

before the abomination it housed could be given life.

And as a plus this time we were treated to other adventures if we would pay a reasonable price.

In the end we watched a whole solar system die And was plamed and summoned back to earth to stand trial.

And so ended our adventure for the second time.

And the anxious wait for the third installement we  awaited with starry eyes.

 

 

At last it did arrive and the Squids were here with force this time.

So spirited away from earth did we fly with sad eyes.

To Mars we went to find an old weapon lost in time.

All though It is peculiar that only now was it found we did not mind.

We wanted to teach the space squids not to mess with these people of ours

So we fought around the galaxy reuninting old friends and new.

Raising a bar that represented our military might to deep fry sone squids wehn it was time.

Met with old friends did we. Rekindled romances or kept them going did we.

When came the time for the super weapon to be realeased found out did we

That our illusive friend did side with the Squids saying goodbye to his humanity.

This caused us to race to his lab and free the AI he stole from us you see.

Tell us did the AI that we must follow Illusive one back to earth.

For there the final confrontation was to be. And it was London that our old friend was born you see.

From there did we fight our way to the great beam.

And there was he. The great Squid master waiting us Primed with his laser pointing at we.

From here it gets convoluted you will see.

After being hit with the lasers of this Great squid

enter into a place that seemed like a dream.

Still we fought our way up the beam and was given a conversatinon to the illusive one.

Kill him did we or talked him to killing himself did we.

And when losing consciousness did we arise in a light elevetor to see a kid of light standing before us indeed

Here is where the **** hit the fan indeed. None of us knew what to think of this choise of three but pick did we.

And the colours of the rainbow explosions did we see.

And after that did we ask the creators indeed. Was this all you would give us without an extra fee.

So did the creators hearts melt and an explenation was given for free.

But many don't still understand why it had to go down this way.

 

 

 

Ok enough of that. ;)

Basically my thoughts on the subject. Time has soften the ending for me and it doesn't hold such a stigma to it any more.

But of course it is still a weird thing for many(including yours truly) as to where Bioware will take this epic now?

Personally I think the whole 3rd game was rushed and not in the way some might think. What I mean is that that when the Reapers arrived this became a galaxy spanning war that would take more time than one game to finish.

Because they tried to fit this concept into just one game the crucible seems forced and the ending for that mather although im fine with the ending now. Had to do a bit of head canoning on that one. :P  But basically I see the end after Harbingers laser beam as trancendance into the after life for Shepard and the war goes on in the background and will continue in the next one. True we lost our hero but new ones will arise. :)  But basically to the topic in hand. Has enough time passed that people have forgiven the ending?

 

My apologies for grammar mistakes since english isn't my first language and I have a tendancy to write my thoughts as I think them. :wacko:


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Farangbaa

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If only they had made ME2 about the Reapers, instead of playing space Dr Phil


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Dabrikishaw

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Sure it has

 

Doesn't mean they will.


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InWeirdPeril

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Imma go with nope, not even close :)


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Tonymac

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Imma go with nope, not even close :)

 

It'll be a cold day in hell before that dogfart is forgiven.

 

I have moved on though.


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i can see what the ending was meant to be, but the presentation and lack of details and epilogue just killed it.

 

In other words, I can accept the idea behind the ending but not the ending itself. 


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Iakus

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No, not even close.  Forgiveness won't come until the endings are left buried in an unmarked grave.

 

And even then they will not be forgotten.


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Never felt the need to forgive them. I was fine with them from the first time (played with EC already installed)


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If the next game isn't a prequel and actually brings back the Mass Effect I know and love, I don't see why it would matter.



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It'll be a cold day in hell before that dogfart is forgiven.

 

I have moved on though.

 

I tend to agree with this sentiment.  I can't ever see myself letting Bioware slide for what happened, vis-a-vis the ME3 ending, but it's not like I spend every day and night thinking about it.  What's done is done and there's no reason to keep beating that dead horse, particularly years after the fact.

 

I suppose though the one thing I haven't lost is my enduring curiosity as to how Bioware will screw up the next installment in the Mass Effect franchise. 


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If only they had made ME2 about the Reapers, instead of playing space Dr Phil

Though ME2 is a great game but yeah ME2 doesn't do a good job of continuing the story.

 

@OP Most people have already moved on two years ago.



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Oni Changas

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"Forgive"
"At peace with"
"Let it go"

Whats with these overmelodramatic ass threads?
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I tend to agree with this sentiment.  I can't ever see myself letting Bioware slide for what happened, vis-a-vis the ME3 ending, but it's not like I spend every day and night thinking about it.  What's done is done and there's no reason to keep beating that dead horse, particularly years after the fact.

 

I suppose though the one thing I haven't lost is my enduring curiosity as to how Bioware will screw up the next installment in the Mass Effect franchise. 

 

After those endings, I'm not sure we can trust them to get any other game ending - or the ending of say, a trilogy, "right" or good.  Even if the next two ME games are incredible and fun and amazing and awesome, I will have to look at how they wrap it up with great trepidation.  Anywhere, at any moment during the end you will have to hold your breath, bracing for a giant SBD (Silent But Deadly) Class Dogfart that will leave smatterings on the back wall and a crater in your floor bigger than Jupiter.

 

I don't even own a dog, why would I want to buy a dogfart?


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There's nothing to forgive. Plus even if there was, I wouldn't be able to hold a grudge just because something is not to my liking in a game, movie, music album or book. 

 

- Do I like the ME trilogy? - Hell yes! I love it.

- Do I want Bioware to continue creating Mass Effect games? - Hell yes!

- Do I have a problem with the ending - Well I had had. Not so much with the concept of it (which I enjoyed) but with the execution and production value of it which thankfully had been fixed by the EC.

- Was it the only prolbem I had with the trilogy? - Nay. There were and still are several. 

- Was it my biggest problem with the trilogy - Nay. The lacking story in ME2 (or rather the lack of it) is and some stupid/inconsistent writing here and there throughout the whole trilogy. 

- Was it my second bigges problem with the game? - Nay. The characters being somewhat one dimensional and cliched was my second gripe hand in hand with the lack of morally ambiguous choices and consequences (The Witcher style). Mass Effect is way too two dimensional and predictable morally for my taste. 

- Do I dislike the games because of these "cons"? - No way. The trilogy is still a great piece of work. One of the greatest games I've ever played. 

- Do I regret spending money on any of the games or dlcs? - Well, not really, though The Citadel dlc is not for me. If I had known that it would be a tongue-in-cheek, cheesy fan service dlc with a goofy, out of place story-line and lots of romance stuff (which is quite uninteresing to me) I wouldn't have purchased it. But, it's ok, since the production value and the love and effort which was put into the dlc make up for it. 

 

So, that's that. I don't give a damn about the ending debate. It's ancient history now... I let others do that. 


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"Forgive"
"At peace with"
"Let it go"

Whats with these overmelodramatic ass threads?

 

There should be an "I should go" thread instead.  ;)


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I never had a problem with the endings myself. Yet I still find it lame how badly treated the ME2 characters were. It's like the general experience of ME3 never sat well with me because of that. The endings are hardly a problem though.


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No, not even close.  Forgiveness won't come until the endings are left buried in an unmarked grave.

 

And even then they will not be forgotten.

 

It's because of people like you we can't have nice things.


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People will be whining about it until the next game comes out


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Iakus

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It's because of people like you we can't have nice things.

I think of it as it's because we don't have nice things that we have people like me


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Enough time had passed a long time ago.



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No, not by a long shot. I remember how excited I was, waiting for the ME3 release, and I loved most of the game and had a blast, and THEN.. came the ending. It's beyond terrible. I don't even care about the next ME game, because; even if they make another trilogy and have two more great games like ME1-2, I can't trust BW to actually make a satisfying ending for the third/sixth one. Maybe they'll have Stargazer as the big bad or something.. "You lost, my sweet."



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I don't care. If ME4 is good people will buy it, regardless of what they thought about ME3's endings.


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No, not by a long shot. I remember how excited I was, waiting for the ME3 release, and I loved most of the game and had a blast, and THEN.. came the ending. It's beyond terrible. I don't even care about the next ME game, because; even if they make another trilogy and have two more great games like ME1-2, I can't trust BW to actually make a satisfying ending for the third/sixth one. Maybe they'll have Stargazer as the big bad or something.. "You lost, my sweet."


Oh cease your whining. You will buy the next ME game. 2 notes of Vigil's theme is it all they need.

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It's not a matter of forgiveness. The endings are there, they're not changing, they are what they are. Pretty much the same as my opinions of them. Time will make f*ck all difference to either. 

 

That being the case, best just learning to live with them. 

 

People have varying degrees of opinion around the endings - some like them, some accept them, some tolerate them, others despise them. I guess I can tolerate them. They won't stop me from picking up the next game - dependent on me not absolutely hating the idea of it when details are released of course.


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People will always bring it up, even if sufficient time has passed to move on.