104 réponses à ce sujet

[BioWareM0d13]

I think if you have a Batarian squadmate he or she has to break the stereotype. With a couple exceptions nearly every Batarian you run into is a slaver, or a pirate, or a terrorist who hates humans. It sort of makes them come across as one dimensional. I think if you have a Batarian squadmate you have to break out of that mold and give the character some redeeming values. 

 

Legion basically served a similar role with the Geth. Worf from the television series Star Trek: The Next Generation also filled a similar role with the Klingons.

[Farangbaa]

I think if you have a Batarian squadmate he or she has to break the stereotype. With a couple exceptions nearly every Batarian you run into is a slaver, or a pirate, or a terrorist who hates humans. It sort of makes them come across as one dimensional. I think if you have a Batarian squadmate you have to break out of that mold and give the character some redeeming values. 

 

Legion basically served a similar role with the Geth. Worf from the television series Star Trek: The Next Generation also filled a similar role with the Klingons.

 

Why?

 

In ME2 in Mordin recruitment mission there's some Batarian that hates you too. But if you save him his opinion of humanity changes.

 

That's how it should be done, not make him an outlier by default.

[BioWareM0d13]

Why?

 

In ME2 in Mordin recruitment mission there's some Batarian that hates you too. But if you save him his opinion of humanity changes.

 

That's how it should be done, not make him an outlier by default.

 

You could have him change his opinions over the course of the game as well. Character development is a good thing. But I'd disagree that he should be yet another slaver, pirate, terrorist, or criminal. It would just serve to reinforce the impression that every batarian belongs to one of four professions and that the species as a whole start off inherently evil like orcs or drow.

 

Given that slavery is an ancient cultural practice for the Batarians and predates space flight, its likely that many Batarians are enslaved as well. They might even make up the majority of slaves in Batarian space. If the character has any connection to slavery for example it might be better to have him or her be a former slave rather than a slaver. That might even  make for an interesting recruitment mission. (freeing a slave...or not, in which case he/she isn't recruited)

[Nitrocuban]

- Batarian

- Vorcha

- Volus

- female Turians and Drell

 

And I fu******* love stereotypes.

[windsea]

Ah, another human in alien costume.

 

Please don't.

"Convergent evolution describes the independent evolution of similar features in species of different lineages."

 

So the Rubber-Forehead alien are actually scientifically likely as this form is efficient in terms of energy consumption.and tool usage. I always found that funny.

[Farangbaa]

"Convergent evolution describes the independent evolution of similar features in species of different lineages."
 
So the Rubber-Forehead alien are actually scientifically likely as this form is efficient in terms of energy consumption.and tool usage. I always found that funny.

I didn't mean the way they look, but the way they act.

Garrus, in his own words, is a bad Turian. Wrex is, by words of Bakkara, a mutant Krogan. In general, the characters we get as squad mates are nothing like the rest of their species, they are all outliers within their species. (exception being Mordin, more or less)

I want an alien squad mate with alien ideas of good and wrong. (and who actively disagrees with me, but that's outside of the scope of this topic). They shouldn't just look different than a human, but act differently too.

[StrawHatMoose]

Also, please no Rachni. They can't talk. The only way you can communicate with a Rachni is with direct contact with the Queen.

A queen controls the lesser rachni through their natural quantum entanglement communicator, and so it wouldn't be crazy to assume it can speak through the rachni. The only rachni that have been fought were insane because they weren't raised together with the queen. And what about the rachni that are sent to work on the crucible, surely they would have some way to communicate or at least understand English, if they were gonna work together to build it?

[Vazgen]

A queen controls the lesser rachni through their natural quantum entanglement communicator, and so it wouldn't be crazy to assume it can speak through the rachni. The only rachni that have been fought were insane because they weren't raised together with the queen. And what about the rachni that are sent to work on the crucible, surely they would have some way to communicate or at least understand English, if they were gonna work together to build it?

I don't think they can understand English. My bet is that Alliance is working directly with the queen who coordinates the workers

[DextroDNA]

I really want an elcor squadmate, and a volus on the crew. The volus can handle my finances.

[BioWareM0d13]

Actually not all scientists are in agreement that sapient aliens would have evolved radically different forms than our own.

 

 

 

Dawkins countered by saying that life on Earth has followed predictable paths of evolution, and we might very well expect life on other planets to take a similar course. For example, on Earth, animals on separate continents still share similar genes and characteristics -- eyes and stingers, for example -- despite having long ago split apart on the evolutionary chain.

 

link

 

 

While I think aliens that look exactly like humans strain suspension of disbelief, aliens that are bipedal and have eyes to see and arms and hands to interact with and manipulate their environment, might not be so far-fetched.

[windsea]

I didn't mean the way they look, but the way they act.

Garrus, in his own words, is a bad Turian. Wrex is, by words of Bakkara, a mutant Krogan. In general, the characters we get as squad mates are nothing like the rest of their species, they are all outliers within their species. (exception being Mordin, more or less)

I want an alien squad mate with alien ideas of good and wrong. (and who actively disagrees with me, but that's outside of the scope of this topic). They shouldn't just look different than a human, but act differently too.

Javik was a good Prothean

Grunt was a good Krogan 

Thane was a good Drell

ME1 Tali was a good Quarian

Legion was a good Geth

 

but I get what you are saying, you want a party member/race with a Blue And Orange Morality. 

[Johnthejefi24]

I want there to be more than just the common 15-16 races. The codex and background to ME describe "dozens" of different intelligent species out there, there should be more than just 15, even with the extinction of advanced races every 50,000 years.

[Johnthejefi24]

I want there to be more than just the common 15-16 races. The codex and background to ME describe "dozens" of different intelligent species out there, there should be more than just 15, even with the extinction of advanced races every 50,000 years.

Couldn't edit the post I just had to add that, the Turian "Military Doctrine" codex entry describes them recruiting auxiliary units from conquered and absorbed species, besides the Volus Client Race, who are we talking about here?

[Farangbaa]

No idea tbh. Barla Vonn (you know, the financial genius from the Citadel) mentions dozens of species living in the wards of the Citadel.

I doubt a financial genius would misuse the word 'dozens', so yeah, there should be a lot more.

[Guanxii]

I absolutely love the alien characterization in Mass Effect it's my favourite thing about the series. Aliens don't feel human so much as they feel alive - more so than human characters in most other video games. When you observe other species on earth be it cats and dogs or gorillas, etc you can see character traits that you recognise in our species whether those be derived from base instincts or higher level communication in social species, e.g. selfishness, pettiness, paternal or friendship bonds, bravado, shame, empathy, pride.... those aren't merely recognisable human characteristics, they're universal.

 

The alien personalities of Mass Effect are universal character archetypes which we see in all of earths cultures and I would be shocked if they didn't permeate/apply to life on other planets. Religion might be a ridiculous human concept sure but it is so pervasive I wouldn't be surprised if alien cultures had their own notions about spirituality and life after death.

 

On artificially intelligent species I find ME2 Legion and Her much more plausible than EDI/synthetic Jesus as I don't believe synthetics would share our goals or value individuality or emotions (emulating organics basically); they would have their own goals/motivations which we probably wouldn't be able to relate to or even comprehend which might be the case with any civilization with an average intelligence much greater than our own. However I agree to an extent with Dawkins/that astrophysist who's name I forget who theorise that organic life doesn't get much beyond radio transition and nuclear energy/grey goo before it wipes itself out so the majority of life we meet out there might not be much more advanced than we are given that the more advanced one's might have already wiped themselves out, especially given the drake equation.

[SporkFu]

A Hanar comm officer

A female turian doctor, who can go on missions, and is m/f romanceable,

A batarian second-in-command

a salarian security chief/armory guy

a male quarian shuttle pilot, who is also the mechanic and requisitions officer ... hey it's what quarians are good at ... I don't want him to be just a store, though; I want him to actually salvage stuff.

[themikefest]

Hanar

Elcor

Volus

Leviathan

Vorcha

Batarian

Rachni

space hamster

[Paragon Soldier]

Male Batarian

Male Quarian

Female Turian

Female Drell

Male Turian

Male Krogan

[SerriceIceDandy]

I would like to see alien races outside their usual depictions, for example:

An Asari squad mate who is not an adept. All Asari may be biotics, but not all choose to refine them to an adept level; maybe a Vanguard/Commando. Opens up room for an adept of another species where it's not so common (Turian).

A Batarian outside of a militia role; maybe a counsellor or psychotherapist. And no, not like Kelly Chambers; an actual professional.

A Quarian from a more military background (soldier/infiltrator) than just generic tech expert.

A Volus engineer, like Gabby @ Donnely.

I could go on, but I'm sure everyone gets the drift. I would like to see more females of the current species in both squadmates and npcs

[Gladerunner]

N7 Fury Adept

N7 Shadow Infiltrator

 

Krogan Sniper (Sentinel)

Turian Pistolier (Soldier)

Vorcha Tech Pugilist (Engineer)

Batarian Preacher (Vanguard)

[Farangbaa]

I just hope Bioware doesn't forget more than half of earth's population is Asian this time.

[BioWareM0d13]

No idea tbh. Barla Vonn (you know, the financial genius from the Citadel) mentions dozens of species living in the wards of the Citadel.

I doubt a financial genius would misuse the word 'dozens', so yeah, there should be a lot more.

 

Also, the codex entry for the Terminus system states that "it is populated by a loose affiliation of minor species, united only in their refusal to acknowledge the political authority of the Citadel Council."  So there has got to be other species there besides the Batarians and the Vorcha. The Vorcha aren't space-faring, so that codex entry couldn't have been referring to them being in a lose pact with the Batarians against the Citadel.

 

One of the comics may have given a quick glimpse of one of the other Terminus species. In the background of one scene on Omega (can't recall which comic) there was a bipedal alien with four arms.

[Vazgen]

The problem with Vorcha squadmates is their short lifespan. They'd need some quite unique backstory to compensate that.

Even today, companies that want vorcha labor have the poor choice between adopting and educating them as youngsters just to watch them age and die or dealing with autonomous but violent adults.

 

I'd prefer the companions of unused yet races to be traditionalistic and good members of their respective societies, since it's through them that we'll learn about the cultures and history of those races. "Classic" races like the quarians and krogans can use some characters that break the mold