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DA:I's release date is the most crowded week I've ever seen for gaming.


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I'd love to see the look on your face when GTA V on Xbox One/PS4 sells more copies in two weeks than some of these other games will sell in their life spans. GTA isn't a yearly release. Five years passed between the time GTA IV and V were released. No one wants to be playing on an Xbox 360 or PS3--as their main console, mind you--in five years. Anyone who played and liked GTA V on 360/PS3 that has upgraded to Xbox One/PS4 will buy it on those consoles.
 
GTA is eternal, anyway. People still play Vice City and San Andreas to this day. Hell, I played San Andreas yesterday.


Yeah, GTA V sold tens of millions on ancient hardware. If even a fraction decide they want to play it on "next gen" it would still be sales that many devs could only dream of.

Besides if we buy it again, maybe this time they will add heists.
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I find this tidbit an interesting read.....

 

 

 

DAI had captured enough attention from reporters in E3 that they were late to other displays.      

 

 

 

Yep, sounds like it wont do good at all, does it?  :P


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This thread certainly got a lot of laughs out of me. It's not as if DAI will only be on sale for one day only. Jeez. Plus, the majority of people who will be buying this game on release day will have already pre-ordered it. It'll do fine. And as long as it ends up being as good as it looks, it'll keep doing just fine.

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I'd love to see the look on your face when GTA V on Xbox One/PS4 sells more copies in two weeks than some of these other games will sell in their life spans.

Oh sure, GTA V, might outsell Little big planet, Watch Dogs on WiiU etc. However since a lot of people still have PS3/360 copies I don't really see it impacting the sales of Dragon Age Inquisition for those system. As for next gen consoles....the current crop of games are pretty lackluster all told, and though we may get a few winners before DAI comes out, as it stands I'm thinking people will be interested in something different by the time DAI comes out.



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BioWare may have enough plans but if DAI sales flop I can't see EA being interested in continuing the DA series. I am not saying DAI will likely flop but there is absolutely a possibility. DAI is facing stiff competition this year and BioWare does have an image problem after three "disappointing" games. I fear that even minor issues with DAI will and can be used by disgruntled gamers to try to negatively influence sales to the point BioWare could be toast as a company. I absolutely believe today's gamers have that kind of power. It is so easy to sell negativity to the masses.

 

Almost anything could be said to be a possibility, that doesn't make it a probability.

three 'disappointing' games? DA2 had some environment issues, ME3 ending was controversial, what's the third?

The haters will hate anything and everything.

Destiny got mediocre reviews (even if late) and that's selling just fine.

Prelaunch press on DAI has been pretty good.



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Almost anything could be said to be a possibility, that doesn't make it a probability.
three 'disappointing' games? DA2 had some environment issues, ME3 ending was controversial, what's the third?
The haters will hate anything and everything.
Destiny got mediocre reviews (even if late) and that's selling just fine.
Prelaunch press on DAI has been pretty good.

Yes, three "disappointing" games. I used the quotes for a reason because there are always people who don't see the last three BioWare games as disappointing. DA 2 wasn't exactly a smashing success. Every time you mention DA 2 on this forum it easily devolves into people telling you how disappointing that game was. And that is solely on this forum, a forum with mostly DA fans. Or how about mentioning ME 3? Every time ME 3 is mentioned a thread turns sour.

And the third is SWTOR. A game which sold well in the beginning but people soon left in droves.

And I am not talking about the press, I am talking about the gamers. Nowadays it doesn't really matter much what the press thinks of a game because the gamers now have the power to make a game sell or not. A lot of gamers no longer listen to gaming journalists but they listen to gamers who specialize in video reviews, the "non-journalist". Or how about Gamergate? A good amount of gamers don't exactly believe in the integrity of gaming journalists any more so why would they instantly believe DAI is a must buy over other big games?

Also, Bungie didn't exactly have to combat a bad image prior to Destiny's release, BioWare certainly does, especially for the gamers who feel slighted by the three mentioned games. I want BioWare to do well with DAI but BioWare most certainly has got a bad name at the moment and with the amount of big hitters coming out around the time DAI comes out it can absolutely hurt DAI's sales to the point DAI could be the last DA game.

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Yes, three "disappointing" games. I used the quotes for a reason because there are always people who don't see the last three BioWare games as disappointing. DA 2 wasn't exactly a smashing success. Every time you mention DA 2 on this forum it easily devolves into people telling you how disappointing that game was. And that is solely on this forum, a forum with mostly DA fans. Or how about mentioning ME 3? Every time ME 3 is mentioned a thread turns sour.

And the third is SWTOR. A game which sold well in the beginning but people soon left in droves.

And I am not talking about the press, I am talking about the gamers. Nowadays it doesn't really matter much what the press thinks of a game because the gamers now have the power to make a game sell or not. A lot of gamers no longer listen to gaming journalists but they listen to gamers who specialize in video reviews, the "non-journalist". Or how about Gamergate? A good amount of gamers don't exactly believe in the integrity of gaming journalists any more so why would they instantly believe DAI is a must buy over other big games?

Also, Bungie didn't exactly have to combat a bad image prior to Destiny's release, BioWare certainly does, especially for the gamers who feel slighted by the three mentioned games. I want BioWare to do well with DAI but BioWare most certainly has got a bad name at the moment and with the amount of big hitters coming out around the time DAI comes out it can absolutely hurt DAI's sales to the point DAI could be the last DA game.

 

There is the catch with The Old Republic being labeled a "disappointing game" for it might be a disappointment here, but unless their expectations were to match World of Warcraft its doing fine.  In 2013 the game was estimated to be the fourth highest grossing game behind World of Warcraft, Lineage 1, and Tera Online. Source

 

With Dragon Age 2 for it was a disappointment to many, but they have gone out of their way to show everything that has been improved based on the complaints people gave. Its the same with Mass Effect 3, with it being BioWare's best selling game (according to VGChartz which is highly inaccurate, but the only place I know of to find sales numbers) and has a similar drop off as Mass Effect 2.  Now there is no way to know for sure that Dragon Age: Inquisition will do the same numbers as Mass Effect especially with how Dragon Age 2 was received, but when allocating a budget for the game I am pretty sure the decision makers kept all the factors in mind.

 

At times I think with how popular a game will or won't be is perceived is because of how much an echo chamber the internet seems to be anymore for people will go out and find the information that supports their arguments because its easy to find anything that might confirm your personal feelings.

 

You mentioned Bungie, they might not have had a bad image, but Activision did with how they were talking about spending $500 million on Destiny or how they fired Marty O'Donnell and then they also had the disappointment that was Call of Duty: Ghosts which didn't perform as well as previous Call of Duty titles.  Now I don't know who was responsible for some of the statements to the press, but when it feels like ego is involved about how important Halo was and how they "changed how people game" while announcing they aren't releasing the game for PC also can hurt a companies image long before a game's release too. I know I didn't buy a console or the game which I was thinking of to play with my friends because of a lot of the things that were said to the press.

 

With the trust issue, I really wonder outside of the areas people who visit message boards really know what is happening. There are going to be more people that don't trust the press, but there has been incidents in the past that people have yelled "I don't trust professional reviewer" and there will be more things like that happening in the future.  Its the same as all those Let's Play people that have admitted they took money to play a specific game on their channels, but I don't see anyone saying they can't trust any of them. On a slight tangent how with Valve people were okay with them looking up the domain addresses of any webpage you have open when using their VAC software.

 

I am not saying what you saying isn't true, for there are going to be people that feel the same way.  Its just hard for me to believe that the BSN/any forum out there is an accurate sampling of how the majority of people feel about an upcoming/past game.


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#283
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Yeah...November is packed, but Dragon Age: Inquisitiion is near the top of that stack (its surely up there for me, but never underestimate the COD fans).

 

I just hope...and hope that EA/Bioware doesn't push the date back, and I pray that they move it forward, but regardless...I think they're pretty safe where they are. The talk and hype surrounding Dragon Age: Inquisitiion will swell and swirl near launch...because this game looks really, really damn good.



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eh, well, you know. GTAV, Halo and COD (I believe) are all re releases. So not that worried abt those. ACU and Fary Cry4 are new so I would think more competition with those.

 

But I mean, sooner or later DA has got to grow up. Put on their Big Pants and start throwing some elbows in that Mosh Pit. And besides, think of it like this, at least DA will get noticed more because ppl will be out actively looking for games. They know that this is when the Gaming Rains finally come after a long dry summer. They'll be looking for games and with DA out at this time, too--maybe that will increase its chance of getting noticed by those that otherwise would not be aware of its existence.

 

My Xbox one needs some games. I'm not getting COD or Halo; GTAV been there done that, not paying again for a spit shine. Soo, that leaves, AC FarCry and DAI. DAI is already paid for. I'll def be getting AC... at some point. And Far Cry...at some point.

 

I want DAI to be wildly successful, too. I want more games like it. But sooner or later you got to let the bird leave the nest and fight it's way thru for the title. If DA wants to make a name for itself, it has to get in the ring with the other big names. Not hide in the corner like a dweeb hoping someone will give them the chance to speak. Or they will always be run over and not taken seriously.

 

Yes, I fret, too. I do. But the die is cast. May DAI kick Azz!!

 

*sidenote: as a gamer I'm just really, really, happy to Finally be getting some games!


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I'd love to see the look on your face when GTA V on Xbox One/PS4 sells more copies in two weeks than some of these other games will sell in their life spans. GTA isn't a yearly release. Five years passed between the time GTA IV and V were released. No one wants to be playing on an Xbox 360 or PS3--as their main console, mind you--in five years. Anyone who played and liked GTA V on 360/PS3 that has upgraded to Xbox One/PS4 will buy it on those consoles.
 
GTA is eternal, anyway. People still play Vice City and San Andreas to this day. Hell, I played San Andreas yesterday.


Not surprising people still play Vice City and San Andreas considering those were the last GTA's that were any good. GTA4 was awful & GTA V was mediocre, only reason people still play it is for the MP



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eh, well, you know. GTAV, Halo and COD (I believe) are all re releases. So not that worried abt those. ACU and Fary Cry4 are new so I would think more competition with those.

 

But I mean, sooner or later DA has got to grow up. Put on their Big Pants and start throwing some elbows in that Mosh Pit. And besides, think of it like this, at least DA will get noticed more because ppl will be out actively looking for games. They know that this is when the Gaming Rains finally come after a long dry summer. They'll be looking for games and with DA out at this time, too--maybe that will increase its chance of getting noticed by those that otherwise would not be aware of its existence.

 

My Xbox one needs some games. I'm not getting COD or Halo; GTAV been there done that, not paying again for a spit shine. Soo, that leaves, AC FarCry and DAI. DAI is already paid for. I'll def be getting AC... at some point. And Far Cry...at some point.

 

I want DAI to be wildly successful, too. I want more games like it. But sooner or later you got to let the bird leave the nest and fight it's way thru for the title. If DA wants to make a name for itself, it has to get in the ring with the other big names. Not hide in the corner like a dweeb hoping someone will give them the chance to speak. Or they will always be run over and not taken seriously.

 

Yes, I fret, too. I do. But the die is cast. May DAI kick Azz!!

 

*sidenote: as a gamer I'm just really, really, happy to Finally be getting some games!

Those halo people are  Mailatent when it comes to those Games  i  was driveing by a gamestop when one came out there had  line that went 4 blocks



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DAI is coming out on the most systems, releasing for PS3,PS4,360,X1 and PC, all the others are either coming out for one system or are the PS3/360 versions and the only exception is GTA 5 which is for PS4/X1, I wouldn't be surprised at some of the hardcore fans selling their PS3/360 versions to get the newer ones but like I said before I've read many say that GTA 5 is just fine on their PS3/360. Both DAI and FC 4 alone are generating a lot of hype and with so many games coming out on the same day why can't we just enjoy what looks like a big day for gaming instead of talking about competition? Some of you are taking the fun out of being a gamer. 



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DAI is coming out on the most systems, releasing for PS3,PS4,360,X1 and PC, all the others are either coming out for one system or are the PS3/360 versions and the only exception is GTA 5 which is for PS4/X1, I wouldn't be surprised at some of the hardcore fans selling their PS3/360 versions to get the newer ones but like I said before I've read many say that GTA 5 is just fine on their PS3/360. Both DAI and FC 4 alone are generating a lot of hype and with so many games coming out on the same day why can't we just enjoy what looks like a big day for gaming instead of talking about competition? Some of you are taking the fun out of being a gamer. 

 

I'm really don't have any doubts about DA:I getting positive. Press. Bioware and the press are always holding hands. So in the reviews department I don't see DA:i getting trumped by 2 rerealeases and a rehash 



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Well Sonic Boom was bumped up to November 11th instead of the 18th so now we have 10 games coming out on the same day  



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Oh sure, GTA V, might outsell Little big planet, Watch Dogs on WiiU etc. However since a lot of people still have PS3/360 copies I don't really see it impacting the sales of Dragon Age Inquisition for those system. As for next gen consoles....the current crop of games are pretty lackluster all told, and though we may get a few winners before DAI comes out, as it stands I'm thinking people will be interested in something different by the time DAI comes out.

i don't think Watch dogs is gonna sell well on the WiiU that system gets crappy ports all the time 



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Count me among those who could care less about other games being released. Even if they released Witcher 3, I would not care because don't play games where I can't choose to be female.



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Meh, DAI and Civ for me. All the other stuff ---> Airlock


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Oct and Nov are the big months for releasing games because you take on the initial sales boost then get to ride out the holiday sales. So while they might not get as many sales due to many other games being released, they counter that by releasing at the prime holiday period.

 

For me, there are many games coming in the next few months that I will be playing. but I would probably put DA:I as my most anticipated.

 

In fact I will be trying to get through as many games as possible before November 20th so I have plenty of time for DA:I



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Not surprising people still play Vice City and San Andreas considering those were the last GTA's that were any good. GTA4 was awful & GTA V was mediocre, only reason people still play it is for the MP

 

During each year sometimes I play GTA 1 or 2! And for us PC players GTA4: Episodes from Liberty City is the last GTA to wander in.



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Yeah, that's pretty busy. Master Chief Collection is a big win for XB1. Regardless of its actual quality, CoD will likely be a sales winner. Won't change the game itself, but the timing could be a significant sales issue.

Want them to delay it some more? XD