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[ScottyCanes]

tldr; Are these AIU's unaware of the in-game god mode, or do they refuse to use it on principle? Has anyone else encountered AIU's without RM and how experienced do you think they were? Do you personally spec out of RM for any reason?

 

 

I've noticed that many of the AIU's that I end up playing with . . . well, I don't believe that they put any points into Repair Matrix, considering how they don't get back up instantly - or at all, sometimes - from being downed. Based on their lobby loadouts and equiped consumables - if not N7 and challenge points - they have invested a decent amount of time into the game.

 

Now, if they choose to not spec into it because they think it's too good - it is - that's one thing. I don't entirely think that they should remove the option to have near-infinite Ops Packs/Medi-gels, but that's their decision.

 

However, it's also possible that they could be new players who might not entirely understand what RM does. Hell, when Retali . . . when Resurg - oh, whatever the last DLC was - when it came out I didn't realize RM used grenades as charges like Stim Pack did. Ya know, cause they nerfed Stim Packs and why in the world would they make something even better? I initially thought that I could have either 2 or 3 extra Ops Packs/Gels as a power and that they wouldn't recharge for the entire game.

 

I instantly found out that they were spammable and that the pre-nerf RM could let me take on double Atlases and Primes with reckless abandon. Even if Bioware made RM a power that could only be used a predetermined amount of times, I'd still use it.

 

Are these AIU's unaware of the in-game god mode, or do they refuse to use it on principle? Has anyone else encountered AIU's without RM and how experienced do you think they were? Do you personally spec out of RM for any reason?

[d_nought]

I don't use Repair Matrix at all. It cheapens the experience of rage gelling.

[FasterThanFTL]

I like using Repair Matrix because it increases my speed. Combining it with Adrenaline Module III makes the AIU into a super fast nurse bot.

[RealKobeBean]

They most likely do have Repair Matrix, but they refuse to spend Clip Packs to restore their grenades in emergencies. And they tend to have bad awareness as far as their grenades go. I have encountered many bad AIU players. The key with her is, to keep moving around the map and to resupply your grenades frequently. What can also happen, is this lag related bug that fails to activate Repair Matrix in time. Basically, what happens with Opps Packs on a laggy host.

[ScottyCanes]

They most likely do have Repair Matrix, but they refuse to spend Clip Packs to restore their grenades in emergencies. And they tend to have bad awareness as far as their grenades go. I have encountered many bad AIU players. The key with her is, to keep moving around the map and to resupply your grenades frequently. What can also happen, is this lag related bug that fails to activate Repair Matrix in time. Basically, what happens with Opps Packs on a laggy host.

 

I am obsessed with hoarding items - I'm the guy in Final Fantasy with 90-99 of every item - so I can't even understand how not prioritizing grenades for RM is possible. Also, part of me strongly wants to believe that players are. . . smarter than that? 

 

I agree with you completely and even when I'm 3/3 or 5/5 for grenades, I still find moving around for better positions makes the game go smoother.

 

Lag - that's what I thought at first too. I suspected that lag was giving them duds. But at some point, without seeing the green visor during the game, it seems like they might not have even specced into it, I'm afraid

 

I don't use Repair Matrix at all. It cheapens the experience of rage gelling.

 

I've Repair Matrixed, Tac Cloaked, shot, reload canc - get downed instantly - use a medi gel while RM was still very much active. On host. Oh, this game, haha.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Well, I can kind of understand where they're coming from. I mean, there's Repair Matrix, always asking to be played with...

 

"I could be making that easier, you know."

 

"Whether you're running to or from the enemy, I can get you there faster, baby."

 

"Who was ever hurt by getting more shields."

 

"Baby, every time you run past an ammo box without using me I'm just going to waste."

 

Sometimes, you just gotta say, "NO! No Repair Matrix, no! You always want to be on. It was never meant to be like this! I never said we were exclusive! I don't do powers that way. I don't spend that much time with just one power. Sure, I've used duration Tactical Cloak, but that's different. That's when I can truly feel like myself, when I'm not being watched. With you, I feel like I just get shot more."

[Jelena Jankovic]

I put 6 points into it at level 18

[PurpGuy1]

Those aren't Repair Matrices.  Those are Arc Grenades.  And every time an AUI uses one, they ARE going to waste.

[mechanical_lunatic]

I like it if I try to reload cancel, but instead the AIU dies and stands up instantly . . . and RM is still active . . . a really nice unplanned (rage) gel.

The window of opportunity for this must be quite small.

 

And that speed . . . Snap Freeze would slow her down, so why not invest in all remaining powers (and use them)?

 

Most AIUs I ran into have Snap Freeze and RM (or a HUGE amount of Gels, but since most don't use the Responder Loadout this is unlikely).

[Deerber]

What's this repair matrix you talk about?

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

AIUs go down (and sometimes don't get up) because of one of the following reasons:

 

(1) Repair Matrix simply doesn't pick them up - it fails about half the time, especially off-host - and they bleed out in disbelief.

 

(2) They weren't quick enough to hit RM when they started taking damage. You know that when a Scion hits you and yo are stunlocked, there's no chance you can activate RM before you go down. And I mention Scions because they often hit you before you can see them.

 

(3) RM ended duration a second before they took a bad hit. One has to have a feeling for when the power is going to end or it will let you down hard, like Biotic Focus and Annihilation Field both do as well.

 

RM is an amazing power, maybe even OP, but it needs to be used with at least some skill and experience or one goes down anyway.

 

Pretty much what I said about RM goes for Stim Packs as well, I realize.

[ScottyCanes]

AIUs go down (and sometimes don't get up) because of one of the following reasons:

 

(1) Repair Matrix simply doesn't pick them up - it fails about half the time, especially off-host - and they bleed out in disbelief.

 

(2) They weren't quick enough to hit RM when they started taking damage. You know that when a Scion hits you and yo are stunlocked, there's no chance you can activate RM before you go down. And I mention Scions because they often hit you before you can see them.

 

(3) RM ended duration a second before they took a bad hit. One has to have a feeling for when the power is going to end or it will let you down hard, like Biotic Focus and Annihilation Field both do as well.

 

I don't think RM fails quite nearly half the time off host. I would guess 1/15, but idk, I've not had the problem in recent memory.

 

I agree that lag and stunlock are factors for failed RM activation. I've had both happen plenty of times. However, I just don't believe that every single AIU I've played with recently went down because of lag or stunlock. Probably just Marauders and Cannibals. Sometimes Banshee balls, which does fall into the stunlock situation.

 

On the subject of Scions, I find that if I don't manage to dodge the first shot, I can usually just maneuver my way past the 2nd and 3rd shot with agile classes. Usually just by running and stopping at the right time.

 

I agree that the duration of RM ending can lead to embarrassing rage-gels   but of the 6 or 7 AIU's I've had the . . . honor to experience Gold Reapers with recently, not one got back up from being downed. Not once. Not a single medi-gel, and certainly not an instant-up RM. 

 

Maybe I missed seeing their green RM visor and they had the worst luck ever to be downed, but . . . I've played some terribly laggy games. Laggy games where I don't even seem to have a shield-gate. Even if I get lagged to death 20 times in a single game, I could still use RM to get up more than half the time.

 

Thanks for the reply. I just dunno. I really don't think lag is the exclusive problem for what I've seen of late, and at the same time, I'd really hope that players *do* spec into RM.

[Quarian Master Race]

Only way to play AIU is with a no RM, no Snap cheese melee spec duration cloak build. Otherwise it's cheesier than velveta and you should feel bad

[ScottyCanes]

Those aren't Repair Matrices.  Those are Arc Grenades.  And every time an AUI uses one, they ARE going to waste.

 

If I am the AIU, it's certainly not a waste  . Besides, if I happened to join a game with an Arc-er, I'd just switch to the Geth Flamer to avoid any grenade-envy and benefit from those splosions.

[12323432543]

I die more often when I use repair matrix. It always and I mean always runs out the exact moment that you die. Oh and when auto revive happens, sometime you find either phantoms or banshees staring at you in the face ready to gut you. And there's also the issue of the visuals coming on but the power not actually working. I hate the power and to a certain extent the class as well. Perhaps the way in which I can actually enjoy her is to punch things into oblivion with her uppercut. 

[ScottyCanes]

I die more often when I use repair matrix. It always and I mean always runs out the exact moment that you die. Oh and when auto revive happens, sometime you find either phantoms or banshees staring at you in the face ready to gut you. And there's also the issue of the visuals coming on but the power not actually working. I hate the power and to a certain extent the class as well. Perhaps the way in which I can actually enjoy her is to punch things into oblivion with her uppercut. 

 

 

(3) RM ended duration a second before they took a bad hit. One has to have a feeling for when the power is going to end or it will let you down hard, like Biotic Focus and Annihilation Field both do as well.

 

RM is an amazing power, maybe even OP, but it needs to be used with at least some skill and experience or one goes down anyway.

 

If you find that RM ends just before you get downed, as marksmad said, you should probably get a feel for it. Of course, it's MUCH safer to just find the nearest cover after hitting RM, as you'll likely have shield-gate on cooldown and are probably taking lots of fire. 

 

I agree that the visual overlay activating is an extreme annoyance off-host, but for free Ops Packs/Medi-gels, you can probably work around it if you spend time on it. The overlay still tricks me to this day, but you MUST keep an eye on that grenade count.

 

As for being sync-killed upon being revival, I recall that it only ever happened to me when I was far too aggressive. I really shouldn't have been trying to headshot that Phantom in the middle of a spawn to begin with. Or I should have started running away when I saw the two Dragoons closing in when I was dueling the Phantom, etc. etc. Otherwise, if you keep your distance and get downed, you'll have some amount of time to get to safety.

 

Edit: Not sure if troll or not. Ah well. It's still worth writing once.

[grailseeker91]

AIUs go down (and sometimes don't get up) because of one of the following reasons:

 

(1) Repair Matrix simply doesn't pick them up - it fails about half the time, especially off-host - and they bleed out in disbelief.

 

(2) They weren't quick enough to hit RM when they started taking damage. You know that when a Scion hits you and yo are stunlocked, there's no chance you can activate RM before you go down. And I mention Scions because they often hit you before you can see them.

 

(3) RM ended duration a second before they took a bad hit. One has to have a feeling for when the power is going to end or it will let you down hard, like Biotic Focus and Annihilation Field both do as well.

 

RM is an amazing power, maybe even OP, but it needs to be used with at least some skill and experience or one goes down anyway.

 

Pretty much what I said about RM goes for Stim Packs as well, I realize.

I'll second this. It's part of the reason why I don't use the AIU outside a bronze solo. (Part 2 is I can't AIU to save my life  )

[ScottyCanes]

I'll second this. It's part of the reason why I don't use the AIU outside a bronze solo. (Part 2 is I can't AIU to save my life  )

 Do you not like the infiltrators in general, or just the AIU because of RM not working sometimes?

[Nylon Angel]

I love the Edibot, but run her without RM.

 

It is much too buggy off host, especially so with bad lag (Australia).

 

Those points go nicely elsewhere. I find she meshes well with Adreneline Mods.

[Excella Gionne]

I only take two RMs with me nowadays. I need my crutch scanner.

[Excella Gionne]

I put 6 points into it at level 18

You could actually max her out at Level 11. 

[Mindlog]

So no to Infiltrators.

Crutch class.

[Excella Gionne]

I love the Edibot, but run her without RM.

 

It is much too buggy off host, especially so with bad lag (Australia).

 

Those points go nicely elsewhere. I find she meshes well with Adreneline Mods.

I'd rather keep it. If you're playing off-host, you have to pay attention to the amount of RMs you have, if you activate RM and a grenade is not expended that means RM did not activate but the visual screen effects will still show up. 

[Deerber]

If I am the AIU, it's certainly not a waste .

You're wrong. It's still a big, big waste.

[N7 Tigger]

I like using Repair Matrix because it increases my speed. Combining it with Adrenaline Module III makes the AIU into a super fast pizza delivery bot.

 

But she's got some competition...