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So I've played all of the origins aside from elf mage.  Ive never tried it because I assumed it would be a mix of human mage and city elf dialogue and seeing as how I already played city elf and human mage I just skipped it. 

 

So was I right? Or is playing an elf mage in any real way different from human mage in terms of an origin? Or a city elf in terms of in game interactions?



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I found it quite different,



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It's the same as the Human mage origin, but there are a few dialogue changes in regards to your race throughout the game.


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Thanks for the replies!



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Isn't the point of roleplaying stepping inside your character's shoes and looking at the world from their perspective, not sitting back and watching the way the world reacts to your character?

 

As for responses, yes. Occasionally you get a snark about being an elf, and since most humans have only seen city elves and they assume you're a servant too, and occasionally you get a snark about being a mage. If what you want to know is if they recorded special "elven mage" dialogue specifically for the mage elf, then no. They didn't record much special dialogue in which characters comment on you being both elven and mage in the same breath outside the Origin. (Although, within the Origin Eadric is nicer to you if you're an elf, and if you pursue a conversation with Duncan you can get a special conversation talking about what it's like to be a mage elf in the tower.)

 

What I thought made the reactions interesting is where my character comes from. As a CE Warden, my character listened to humans calling her scum her whole life, so every time someone assumed she was a servant or lesser for being an elf, it felt like her old wounds were reopened. My Dalish had only heard of the shemlen's racist behavior from the storyteller, and so rolled her eyes or felt insulted that they just assumed she was a servant. My mage elf was slightly different. I imagine that while she endured racist remarks in the tower, she had been far enough away from society long enough that she felt like, "Oh, I'd heard/read that humans regard elves as servants. It's really weird seeing it in person." Or that she endured more grief for being a mage in the tower, and so found humans assuming she was a servant very quaint.

 

It's all attitude. If you go in just thinking, "Okay game, do the roleplaying for me" of course you'll get bored. If you go in putting yourself in your character's shoes, how characters react to your mage elf will enhance the experience instead of being the beginning and ending of it. I've played every origin at least up to Ostagar too, and the Mage Elf is my second favorite after the City Elf, and the one I played most often. I made no less than 6 fully fleshed out mage elves because I found the freedom to roleplay and the ways my characters could react to the world around them so much more satisfying than any of the others.


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Isn't the point of roleplaying stepping inside your character's shoes and looking at the world from their perspective, not sitting back and watching the way the world reacts to your character?

 

As for responses, yes. Occasionally you get a snark about being an elf, and since most humans have only seen city elves and they assume you're a servant too, and occasionally you get a snark about being a mage. If what you want to know is if they recorded special "elven mage" dialogue specifically for the mage elf, then no. They didn't record much special dialogue in which characters comment on you being both elven and mage in the same breath outside the Origin. (Although, within the Origin Eadric is nicer to you if you're an elf, and if you pursue a conversation with Duncan you can get a special conversation talking about what it's like to be a mage elf in the tower.)

 

What I thought made the reactions interesting is where my character comes from. As a CE Warden, my character listened to humans calling her scum her whole life, so every time someone assumed she was a servant or lesser for being an elf, it felt like her old wounds were reopened. My Dalish had only heard of the shemlen's racist behavior from the storyteller, and so rolled her eyes or felt insulted that they just assumed she was a servant. My mage elf was slightly different. I imagine that while she endured racist remarks in the tower, she had been far enough away from society long enough that she felt like, "Oh, I'd heard/read that humans regard elves as servants. It's really weird seeing it in person." Or that she endured more grief for being a mage in the tower, and so found humans assuming she was a servant very quaint.

 

It's all attitude. If you go in just thinking, "Okay game, do the roleplaying for me" of course you'll get bored. If you go in putting yourself in your character's shoes, how characters react to your mage elf will enhance the experience instead of being the beginning and ending of it. I've played every origin at least up to Ostagar too, and the Mage Elf is my second favorite after the City Elf, and the one I played most often. I made no less than 6 fully fleshed out mage elves because I found the freedom to roleplay and the ways my characters could react to the world around them so much more satisfying than any of the others.

 

 

I don't role play though. I like RPG's because they are the type of game that puts the most effort into the story and I really enjoy a good story. But I don't role play any RPG, it just seems off putting to me.  But maybe that's because I play WoW from time to time and tried a Role Playing server thinking people care about the lore more and I can enjoy the zone quests more with people that also care about the story...fast forward to level 30 and I drop the toon for another server because to a lot of people in the RP server 'role play' is code for 'lets try to make our cartoons have sex' and it creeped me out. 

 

Also It wasn't a matter of getting bored through the origin, It's just I ran all the origins available aside from elf mage and wanted to know if playing an elf mage was different from having played city elf and human mage already. So thank you for the answer that was very helpful.  I guess it's worth experiencing at least once if you put in 6 full play throughs on that origin!



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But maybe that's because I play WoW from time to time and tried a Role Playing server thinking people care about the lore more and I can enjoy the zone quests more with people that also care about the story...fast forward to level 30 and I drop the toon for another server because to a lot of people in the RP server 'role play' is code for 'lets try to make our cartoons have sex' and it creeped me out.

 

Sorry you had that experience.

I love roleplaying with my characters but I can understand people who don't want to get into their character's headspace for that.
 



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Once upon a time WoW RP servers did have RP and it was great however roleplaying was the very last thing blizzard supported and one can only fight the good fight for so long.  It also depended on the server you were on and which side.  Sadly all MMOs I have played follow that same pattern.



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Once upon a time WoW RP servers did have RP and it was great however roleplaying was the very last thing blizzard supported and one can only fight the good fight for so long.  It also depended on the server you were on and which side.  Sadly all MMOs I have played follow that same pattern.

 

I remember I was on Emerald Dream playing Horde. I tried asking around on a PvP server for advice on what servers might be good for just playing the story and most people had no idea or advised I make an alt on a very low pop realm or PvE only server.  Though I think Ill resub for a few months during the 10th anniversary coming up in November if you have any suggestions.

 

Sorry you had that experience.

I love roleplaying with my characters but I can understand people who don't want to get into their character's headspace for that.
 

Yeah I am sorry too.  It just seemed weird at first but the more I played the more creepy whispers I got and the more players I stumbled upon in caves and corners making the entire thing seem like a creepy corner of craigslist until I just gave up on that server and never made another toon on a RP server again.



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I remember I was on Emerald Dream playing Horde. I tried asking around on a PvP server for advice on what servers might be good for just playing the story and most people had no idea or advised I make an alt on a very low pop realm or PvE only server.  Though I think Ill resub for a few months during the 10th anniversary coming up in November if you have any suggestions.

 

Yeah I am sorry too.  It just seemed weird at first but the more I played the more creepy whispers I got and the more players I stumbled upon in caves and corners making the entire thing seem like a creepy corner of craigslist until I just gave up on that server and never made another toon on a RP server again.

 

It has been so long since I played that game I don't remember the name of the server I played on however I doubt it matter cause by the time I quit RP had all but vanished since all the people that did RP either quit the game or moved to a PVP server.  Many of them could handle only so much blue flagging.  But if you do go back and go horde and there is a guild called Far Travellers then there is hope and tell them Kenshen says hi.



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I've been reading these forums lately in anticipation of DA:I, however signed up to comment how Role playing my character in the game has massively improved my recent play through of Origins. I have always played through as the 'good guy', who will always try to do the right thing and compromise between two warring factions rather than side with one. I always made decisions based on wanting the NPC's to like me afterwards. However after reading the thread regarding people replaying Origins and DA2 whilst they wait for DA:I, I read some great role playing scenarios that inspired me to start again and try something different.

 

I'm currently playing as a Dalish Elf who despises Humans (I killed the humans at the start) and reluctantly joined the Wardens. But what definitely feels different this time round is how every dialogue option has to be thought through. Before I'd just pick the good guy answer straight away, not really thinking about it, but now I have to decided how my character is feeling in the moment. I can sit there for a minute before making a decision how I want my character to respond.

 

Now if only I can make it through DA2 without losing motivation 2/3 of the way through.