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#176
Lulupab

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If someone sleep could control him unwillingly, what do you thing might happen with the Breach and tears all over the place? Just because he feels some Fade breeze it wouldn't make him cheery. It'll be even worse because then Justice/Vengeance will dominate.

 

Nice way of ignoring what I said.

So, I guess I have no right to BS a demon because Justice can't make a difference.

 

I think my chances of survival would be better on my own.

 

Edit: BTW, nice of you to turn this into an Anders praising/Sebastian bashing thread.

 

"Someone". I think your trivializing of Cory ends this discussion automatically. He is several thousand year old magister and you are not gonna find anyone like him. I don't remember "bashing" Sebastian.

 

"His threat will be hanging on some Chantry board where he looks for some chump to help him out while he sits his ass in the Chantry and prays for a sign from the Maker."

 

You wrote this, not me.



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But you don't really know who Cory is until you meet him. And by then, Anders already loses control.

 

Oh, I have for Anders too if you want to hear them. Actually, I have for every companion.

I find it more entertaining to make fun of them than go out of my way to defend them.



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But you don't really know who Cory is until you meet him. And by then, Anders already loses control.

 

Oh, I have for Anders too if you want to hear them. Actually, I have for every companion.

I find it more entertaining to make fun of them than go out of my way to defend them.

 

You choose your words very wrong. "Going out of my way" and "defend". Its more like a logical conclusion who is a better ally because I firmly believed what you said about him, its not really making fun of him, its kinda the truth. This is not about morality, Anders is more capable, period.

 

Besides we are talking about them considering all facts, its idiotic to not consider every detail. What we did know or didn't know at that moment is irrelevant, what we knew at the end of last straw is important.


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If I encounter Sebastian somewhere on my journey he will either: oppose me and get burn to a crisp ( I always play as a mage, and am pro-mage ) or he will join me and we will fight together.

We will talk first, and if we can't see eye to eye then I may have to kill him. I mean, I already have an angry elder one at my throath and I don't want another being interfering with my duty.


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Well, your logic is based you fawning all over Anders which isn't quite logical at this point since you keep ignoring bad side and make up excuses for it.

 

Besides, I'd rather have Sebastian with me, even if he can't make up his mind, at least he still has the decency to tell things to my face.



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As do I, my cannon won't have "married" Sebastion, but i'm very interested in seeing how this affects Hawke in DA:I.

Watch it be mentioned that Sebastian STILL wont bed Hawke even after becoming King of Starkhaven.

 

Because those that romanced Sebastian aren't allowed to be happy. :huh:



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I'm gonna go on a limb here but I assume the people who romance Sebastian like him because he has the potential of money and power. The whole Prince charming whisking Hawke away to become his queen and they live happily ever after, even though she's an outsider peasant that at best would be recognized as his mistress and even his claim to the throne might be contested by other nobles.... It just seems like a delusional fantasy of women. I know most people don't romance him to be married to the poor chaste priest who he is obligated to be via vows who tries to convert everyone to the Andrastian religion. They're in it for the money. I believe the term used to describe romancing him would be... gold digging?

 

Anyways, I don't really hate him but the guy is too spiteful, vengeful, and thus dangerous, Hawke's been killing all sorts of people just so this guy can have peace of mind and then he threatens to wage war on Kirkwall if he doesn't get his way. Now maybe I wouldn't mind if he had to kill for a good cause but lets be real, Sebastian kills out of vengeance and spite and because of this, even if he does gain the throne, pretty sure he'll be a tyrannical power hungry leader who justifies his atrocities like Meredith. A stain in the Vael family who used to be a champion of the people. His reasons are too petty to just go kill whoever he wants just to appease him and most do it only because of the Prince charming fantasy. That's why I don't like the guy and if Sebastian does bring an army to Kirkwall, my Hawke defeated the Qunari and the templars, Starkhaven's just another enemy for him to crush.


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To be honest, I liked it when he FINALLY stood up and said he'd retake his city, if only for revenge. Means he grew some balls and stopped waffling about whether or not he was going to rejoin the Chantry or step up as Prince again.


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#184
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Sebastian says a lot of things. Most of it I disregard. If you keep Anders alive and he threatens to build an army, I ignore that too. He's got all the political clout of a five year old at the DMV- he's been out of the loop for too long, and his family is essentially wiped off the face of the earth. The politicos will chew him up and spit him out.


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Considering Anders is supposed to be with my radical renegade mage Hawke, I want him to try. 



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I don't really understand why some people spare Anders he is nothing but chaos. I like him as a companion and i max his friendship on my first play, but after he blow up the chantry I just stab him and move on. He's a bad person and he got what he deserved (in my play through).



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I don't really understand why some people spare Anders he is nothing but chaos. I like him as a companion and i max his friendship on my first play, but after he blow up the chantry I just stab him and move on. He's a bad person and he got what he deserved (in my play through).

Some people like chaos, or think it is necessary?


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To be honest, I liked it when he FINALLY stood up and said he'd retake his city, if only for revenge. Means he grew some balls and stopped waffling about whether or not he was going to rejoin the Chantry or step up as Prince again.

It probably was waffle though, I don't think after seven years Starkhaven's people will say "Welcome back, we saved you your seat, my prince", they will probably laugh in his face.



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If I rivaled him and kept Anders alive, do you think he'll actively seek out Anders with his troops if he manages to take the throne? Being pro-mage has always scared me souly for this reason because I don't want other mages suffering from Sebastian on Andes's behalf. I know many mages will suffer for his actions, but I rather Sebastian not be the one dissing out his own form of "Justice" because of it.

Ehi sebastain is close to the  Human Inquisitor maybe you can see him in the Human noble inquisitor origin.

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I don't really understand why some people spare Anders he is nothing but chaos. I like him as a companion and i max his friendship on my first play, but after he blow up the chantry I just stab him and move on. He's a bad person and he got what he deserved (in my play through).

For ser Pounce a lot

 

If I encounter Sebastian somewhere on my journey he will either: oppose me and get burn to a crisp ( I always play as a mage, and am pro-mage ) or he will join me and we will fight together.

We will talk first, and if we can't see eye to eye then I may have to kill him. I mean, I already have an angry elder one at my throath and I don't want another being interfering with my duty.

mmmmm to me an Inquisitor pro mage is a contradiction......  this is not a warden or a champion this is an Inquisitor he/she  must think about the demons not the mages, and by the way you cannot defeat a prince with his army,  noble have always their advantages



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I don't really understand why some people spare Anders he is nothing but chaos. I like him as a companion and i max his friendship on my first play, but after he blow up the chantry I just stab him and move on. He's a bad person and he got what he deserved (in my play through).

Good chaos is better than poor order.

 

You also have to remember. Order =/= justice. Order is the law, basically. And laws were created by humans, to serve their purposes. There's nothing good about the order.

 

And there's nothing good or bad in this world, it's a childish viewpoint.

Also, when someone says "good person" I always remember Armin from Attack on Titan. What is a good person? In the eyes of a many it's just a convenient mop.


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