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[Icy Magebane]

Templars hunt Dalish mages too, and are a large part of the reason they stay on the run rather than settling places. I can see why they'd want to know the outcome of the human laws regarding mages, because if they stop hunting apostates and trying to force them into their circles, that makes life a lot easier for the dalish (they have to worry more about farmers and eventually pissed off nobles forcing them out of areas than templars gunning for them and specifically their leaders)

 

Especially since it's probably well known dalish have mage leaders (or at the very least they have plenty of mages and don't send them to the circle) the rogue templars probably have no qualms slaughtering dalish on sight as either mages or mage sympethizers hiding their clans apostates.

 

I can see why they'd want to know what's going on with the human hullabaloo.

The Templars harass the Dalish from time to time to keep them from getting too comfortable in one spot.  Pretty much every human military force does the same... it's not because they have some strong interest in Dalish mages.  If that were true, the Chantry wouldn't have let them wander around in the wilderness of every human nation for centuries without actively hunting the Dalish to extinction... the Templars primarily exist to control human and city elf mages because they are a threat to human cities.  I'm sure they couldn't care less if a Dalish mage becomes an abomination and wipes out their clan.  Why would they?  The Templars typically don't waste manpower on the Dalish, and in the one instance we've seen them in conflict with a clan, it was to bring in a mage that had escaped from Kirkwall.  I doubt that this policy would change regardless of whatever is decided at this conference.

[Lumix19]

The Templars harass the Dalish from time to time to keep them from getting too comfortable in one spot. Pretty much every human military force does the same... it's not because they have some strong interest in Dalish mages. If that were true, the Chantry wouldn't have let them wander around in the wilderness of every human nation for centuries without actively hunting the Dalish to extinction... the Templars primarily exist to control human and city elf mages because they are a threat to human cities. I'm sure they couldn't care less if a Dalish mage becomes an abomination and wipes out their clan. Why would they? The Templars typically don't waste manpower on the Dalish, and in the one instance we've seen them in conflict with a clan, it was to bring in a mage that had escaped from Kirkwall. I doubt that this policy would change regardless of whatever is decided at this conference.

But don't forget that some templars don't play by those rules anymore (red templars?). It's entirely plausible some overzealous templars decided that Dalish mages were a threat too and started targeting them.

[The Elder King]

The Templars harass the Dalish from time to time to keep them from getting too comfortable in one spot.  Pretty much every human military force does the same... it's not because they have some strong interest in Dalish mages.  If that were true, the Chantry wouldn't have let them wander around in the wilderness of every human nation for centuries without actively hunting the Dalish to extinction... the Templars primarily exist to control human and city elf mages because they are a threat to human cities.  I'm sure they couldn't care less if a Dalish mage becomes an abomination and wipes out their clan.  Why would they?  The Templars typically don't waste manpower on the Dalish, and in the one instance we've seen them in conflict with a clan, it was to bring in a mage that had escaped from Kirkwall.  I doubt that this policy would change regardless of whatever is decided at this conference.

As I said, the war lead mages and templars to kill civilians. I doubt the templars will actively hunt dalish, but the latter are still in danger if they meet a group of templars, if those are on the same behaviour of the ones in the hinterlands.

[Icy Magebane]

As i said, she might want to have first-hand experience on what happened here. Or maybe she needs to know as soon as possible because there's something she wants to do (maybe there's an elven gathering shortly after the conference?). Or maybe she does want the elven PC to do something about it. We do know very little about this. Plus, the same can be said about the dwarf.
We don't even know if the PC is set alone or with a small group that he/she leads. Plus, it'd be difficult to infiltrate the meeting, and i wouldn't send someone who isn't very skilled.

I'm primarily discussing the Dalish background with regard to the topic, which is why Dalish was chosen rather than city elf.  It's true that the Carta has a somewhat questionable background as well, but that's not the issue right now.  In my opinion, the Dalish background becomes more farfetched the more I think about it, especially when the alternative was a very simple "elven bodyguard" background that would have given the potential protagonist both a solid reason for being there as well as some degree of martial skill.  When we compare the current Dalish and proposed city elf backgrounds, the former seems a lot less realistic, at least by my estimation.  Too many questions arise when analyzing the Dalish background, but few, if any, are raised by the more straightforward and rational city elf origin.

 

This leads me to believe that either the Dalish culture will heavily factor into the storyline, or there is are undisclosed reasons for why the Keeper sent them to the conference in the first place.  I'd be willing to accept either explanation.  I mean, don't get me wrong here... I don't hate the idea of playing as a Dalish, I just think that the background that's been revealed is somewhat lacking.  It's only natural that I wonder why it was chosen over what I feel is a more logical alternative.

[Icy Magebane]

But don't forget that some templars don't play by those rules anymore (red templars?). It's entirely plausible some overzealous templars decided that Dalish mages were a threat too and started targeting them.

How would observing the peace conference help that specific clan prepare for an attack by the Red Templars?  They seem to be a universally hostile faction and will not be represented at the conference... Even in their deranged state, I don't see the Dalish as being worth their time.  There are a lot of human apostates out there that they will probably have more interest in.

[TheEternalStudent]

I'm primarily discussing the Dalish background with regard to the topic, which is why Dalish was chosen rather than city elf.  It's true that the Carta has a somewhat questionable background as well, but that's not the issue right now.  In my opinion, the Dalish background becomes more farfetched the more I think about it, especially when the alternative was a very simple "elven bodyguard" background that would have given the potential protagonist both a solid reason for being there as well as some degree of martial skill.  When we compare the current Dalish and proposed city elf backgrounds, the former seems a lot less realistic, at least by my estimation.  Too many questions arise when analyzing the Dalish background, but few, if any, are raised by the more straightforward and rational city elf origin.

 

This leads me to believe that either the Dalish culture will heavily factor into the storyline, or there is are undisclosed reasons for why the Keeper sent them to the conference in the first place.  I'd be willing to accept either explanation.  I mean, don't get me wrong here... I don't hate the idea of playing as a Dalish, I just think that the background that's been revealed is somewhat lacking.  It's only natural that I wonder why it was chosen over what I feel is a more logical alternative.

... Elven Bodyguard. There are signs in the Denerim Alienage saying that possessing a weapon is a death sentence, how in the bloody hell would an elf become a bodyguard? Would the Chantry ask some random City Elf to show up? The Templars? The Mages? It's the same question as who invited the Vashoth Mercenary over, with the added benefit of proper combat training being all but impossible.

[Icy Magebane]

... Elven Bodyguard. There are signs in the Denerim Alienage saying that possessing a weapon is a death sentence, how in the bloody hell would an elf become a bodyguard? Would the Chantry ask some random City Elf to show up? The Templars? The Mages? It's the same question as who invited the Vashoth Mercenary over, with the added benefit of proper combat training being all but impossible.

Remember that city elf working for Arl Howe in DA:O?  Paedan's assistant or whatever she was?  Not all city elves live in the alienage.  It's not impossible for one to gain the attention of a noble and prove their value.

 

Also, you are questioning this, but not the idea of a Dalish Keeper sending a handful of her clan hundreds of miles south to spy on a meeting that barely relates to them?  Huh?

[Drasanil]

... Elven Bodyguard. There are signs in the Denerim Alienage saying that possessing a weapon is a death sentence, how in the bloody hell would an elf become a bodyguard? Would the Chantry ask some random City Elf to show up? The Templars? The Mages? It's the same question as who invited the Vashoth Mercenary over, with the added benefit of proper combat training being all but impossible.

 

Well one of Arl Howe's elite warden hunters is an elf, in full plate, with weapons, and IIRC he's the one that put up the signs in the Denerim Alienage. So you know, there are rules for normal folk, and rules for folk who work for the right folk?

 

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Remember that city elf working for Arl Howe in DA:O?  Paedan's assistant or whatever she was?  Not all city elves live in the alienage.  It's not impossible for one to gain the attention of a noble and prove their value.

 

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[The Elder King]

I'm primarily discussing the Dalish background with regard to the topic, which is why Dalish was chosen rather than city elf.  It's true that the Carta has a somewhat questionable background as well, but that's not the issue right now.  In my opinion, the Dalish background becomes more farfetched the more I think about it, especially when the alternative was a very simple "elven bodyguard" background that would have given the potential protagonist both a solid reason for being there as well as some degree of martial skill.  When we compare the current Dalish and proposed city elf backgrounds, the former seems a lot less realistic, at least by my estimation.  Too many questions arise when analyzing the Dalish background, but few, if any, are raised by the more straightforward and rational city elf origin.
 
This leads me to believe that either the Dalish culture will heavily factor into the storyline, or there is are undisclosed reasons for why the Keeper sent them to the conference in the first place.  I'd be willing to accept either explanation.  I mean, don't get me wrong here... I don't hate the idea of playing as a Dalish, I just think that the background that's been revealed is somewhat lacking.  It's only natural that I wonder why it was chosen over what I feel is a more logical alternative.

I disagree on the dalish being less realistic then a CE, but it's fine to disagree.
And my problem with this CE background is that it'll be completely identical to the qunari one. You'll be a mercenary hired as a bodyguard. I honestly doubt Bioware would've created two backgrounds that are the same, even if CE were included as an option. The dalish and the dwarf are both spies, but they have different goals and backgrounds.

As I said, there is a reason (in my perspective) for the dalish presence in the conference. The only questionable thing, in my opinion is that the PC is sent alone, which we don't know yet. I doubt both the dalish and the dwarf are sent alone.

[Icy Magebane]

Well one of Arl Howe's elite warden hunters is an elf, in full plate, with weapons, and IIRC he's the one that put up the signs in the Denerim Alienage. So you know, there are rules for normal folk, and rules for folk who work for the right folk?

Thank you... geez, it's like people only remember the parts of the game that support their argument, no matter what the topic is...

[TheEternalStudent]

Remember that city elf working for Arl Howe in DA:O?  Paedan's assistant or whatever she was?  Not all city elves live in the alienage.  It's not impossible for one to gain the attention of a noble and prove their value.

 

Also, you are questioning this, but not the idea of a Dalish Keeper sending a handful of her clan hundreds of miles south to spy on a meeting that barely relates to them?  Huh?

That really boxes you in, you have to have had some degree of loyalty to this noble from the Marches, who then decided you, all by yourself, should go to this meeting and... protect people or something.

[Drasanil]

That really boxes you in, you have to have had some degree of loyalty to this noble from the Marches, who then decided you, all by yourself, should go to this meeting and... protect people or something.

 

No it really doesn't, nobles that are important enough to travel to such a place would likely be important enough to have an entourage consisting of more than one additional person.

[drummerchick]

Thank you... geez, it's like people only remember the parts of the game that support their argument, no matter what the topic is...

To be fair, that was an optional quest.  

[The Elder King]

That really boxes you in, you have to have had some degree of loyalty to this noble from the Marches, who then decided you, all by yourself, should go to this meeting and... protect people or something.

Not really. The qunari mercenary aren't loyal to either side. They're recruited for their competence, which an elven mercenary could achieve as well.
An elven mercenary/bodyguard background makes perfect sense. I just doubt they'd make two backgrounds that similar.

[Icy Magebane]

That really boxes you in, you have to have had some degree of loyalty to this noble from the Marches, who then decided you, all by yourself, should go to this meeting and... protect people or something.

You really aren't making a good case here.  The Trevelyans are sending the PC to "help out" their relatives at the conference, so there will be random nobles from the Free Marches present.  Also, did you forget the part where the Dalish clan is also from the Free Marches?  How do you explain that specific Keeper deciding to send somebody all the way to Haven, which is basically on the other side of the continent... to spy on people or something...

[The Elder King]

Thank you... geez, it's like people only remember the parts of the game that support their argument, no matter what the topic is...

Which people? There's just one debating against the realism or an elven mercenary .

[The Elder King]

You really aren't making a good case here.  The Trevelyans are sending the PC to "help out" their relatives at the conference, so there will be random nobles from the Free Marches present.  Also, did you forget the part where the Dalish clan is also from the Free Marches?  How do you explain that specific Keeper deciding to send somebody all the way to Haven, which is basically on the other side of the continent... to spy on people or something...

The free Marches is actually not that far to Ferelden.
Do we know for sure the clan, even if it's from the free Marches, isn't currently in Ferelden? Clans don remain in the same place.

[Icy Magebane]

To be fair, that was an optional quest.  

There was an elven Tevinter slaver present in a mandatory questline, and Berwick was a city elf who was hired by Arl Howe... so unless theEternalStudent simply walked past him on every playthrough and never noticed an elf sitting in the Redcliffe tavern openly wielding a bow, he's got a fairly selective memory.

[Icy Magebane]

Which people? There's just one debating against the realism or an elven mercenary .

lol... well it happens in a lot of threads and it's a very common practice, unfortunately.

[Eveangaline]

The Templars harass the Dalish from time to time to keep them from getting too comfortable in one spot.  Pretty much every human military force does the same... it's not because they have some strong interest in Dalish mages.  If that were true, the Chantry wouldn't have let them wander around in the wilderness of every human nation for centuries without actively hunting the Dalish to extinction... the Templars primarily exist to control human and city elf mages because they are a threat to human cities.  I'm sure they couldn't care less if a Dalish mage becomes an abomination and wipes out their clan.  Why would they?  The Templars typically don't waste manpower on the Dalish, and in the one instance we've seen them in conflict with a clan, it was to bring in a mage that had escaped from Kirkwall.  I doubt that this policy would change regardless of whatever is decided at this conference.

 

For one thing, the templars are gone rogue and off their rocker, so they're likely acting even more zealous, for another, it's entirely possible the Dalish are getting a lot of previous circle elven mages running to them for protection from the templars. An influx of mage members could definitely turn the templars more on them, and they may want to know just how long they can expect to have mage elves running to them.

[TheEternalStudent]

Which people? There's just one debating against the realism or an elven mercenary .

I am legion for we are as numerous as the Roman army!

 

You really aren't making a good case here.  The Trevelyans are sending the PC to "help out" their relatives at the conference, so there will be random nobles from the Free Marches present.  Also, did you forget the part where the Dalish clan is also from the Free Marches?  How do you explain that specific Keeper deciding to send somebody all the way to Haven, which is basically on the other side of the continent... to spy on people or something...

It's one thing to send your kid who is already closely connected to the Chantry to go help the chantry. It's another to send your elven mercenary all by themselves. And that's where the peace conference was, and since this was going to be a war throughout Thedas knowing if the midden's about to hit the mill seems a good idea. I'm sure the Keeper would have much preferred to noty have to send you halfway across the continent, but the Chantry didn't ask what would be the most convenient for the spies.

[Drasanil]

There was an elven Tevinter slaver present in a mandatory questline, and Berwick was a city elf who was hired by Arl Howe... so unless theEternalStudent simply walked past him on every playthrough and never noticed an elf sitting in the Redcliffe tavern openly wielding a bow, he's got a fairly selective memory.

 

*cough* Let's not forget that elf in the alienage that you recruit for the blackstone irregulars, a proper for reals mercenary company. IIRC he was also the only candidate not to complain he'd been called up

[Icy Magebane]

It's one thing to send your kid who is already closely connected to the Chantry to go help the chantry. It's another to send your elven mercenary all by themselves. And that's where the peace conference was, and since this was going to be a war throughout Thedas knowing if the midden's about to hit the mill seems a good idea. I'm sure the Keeper would have much preferred to noty have to send you halfway across the continent, but the Chantry didn't ask what would be the most convenient for the spies.

The elven bodyguard would be guarding their noble patron... who even said this was a mercenary?  Dude, you're wasting my time.  Go back and read the thread and then talk.

[Icy Magebane]

*cough* Let's not forget that elf in the alienage that you recruit for the blackstone irregulars, a proper for reals mercenary company. IIRC he was also the only candidate not to complain he'd been called up

No, an elf in the alienage can't possibly be qualified for any job involving combat because reasons...

[TheEternalStudent]

The elven bodyguard would be guarding their noble patron... who even said this was a mercenary?  Dude, you're wasting my time.  Go back and read the thread and then talk.

Why is there a noble here? We have the noble born human helping the Chantry, but why is some Count or whatever joining this peace summit between the Chantry, Templars, and Mages, all of whom forefit noble standing,
And you said boodyguard, which is a personal mercenary, one you pay to keep you safe.