According to Patrick Weekes the reapers don't normally take any capital-size Reaper losses at all. Our cycle is special (well, at least the turians and the asari)
There is absolutely nothing special about this cycle. The special ones were the Protheans, they made it all possible with their beacons, sabotaging the Keepers and Vigil. Without all that the Reapers would have arrived a thousand years before Shepard was even born and already completed their harvest.
Well not quite, the current cycle was the one that gave birth to the space Messiah.
There is absolutely nothing special about this cycle. The special ones were the Protheans, they made it all possible with their beacons, sabotaging the Keepers and Vigil. Without all that the Reapers would have arrived a thousand years before Shepard was even born and already completed their harvest.
I'm pretty sure the reapers were supposed to arrive much later than that, like sometime within Shepard's lifetime. Had they come a thousand years before Shepard was born, humanity wouldn't have even achieved flight in their own atmosphere, let alone flight in space. The reapers would probably have left them alone, and they probably would've been screwed, because unlike the other aliens in Mass Effect, humanity likes to upgrade and toss old technology away very quickly. 50,000 years is a long long time for them to get a head start.
Yeah, but Sovvy was already screwing around with the Rachni. You knew somthing was up. He probably tried to send the signal to the Keepers. "It's time boys." And he got no response, so he was trying to raise an army. The Rachni were pretty good, but they couldn't be indoctrinated to go for the Citadel. That was the problem. If they only worked out, they might not have even known about us.
Then in 21whenever we discover the Mars Archives, and Mass Effect technology. We open the mass relay and begin colonizing the galaxy. Our first contact war is with the Batarians. Then perhaps in about 200 years we discover the Citadel. The reapers are screwed.
Oh and let's not forget Dr. T'soni's time capsules, sans Shepard of course.
I don't think the reapers would've shown up before the whole geth/quarian thing either. There had to at least be a threat of synthetics wiping out organics.
Sovereign: Those guys off in the far rim. I'm telling you, I have a bad feeling about them...
Harbinger: You're imagining things, and this conversation has gone on far too long. This hurts me.
Sovereign: Everything hurts you. What the hell is the matter with you.
Harbinger: Alright, smartypants. Since you're so smart, you can be the vanguard this cycle.
Sovereign: Ah sh*t. Can I appeal to the Catalyst?
Harbinger: STFU you're ruining the overarching plot!
Sovereign: Everything hurts you. What the hell is the matter with you.
Sovereign: Why can't we ftl into the galaxy?
Harbinger: Shut up dumba**. That only happens in ME3 and you will be dead
Where is the humility?
Not in this post, apparently.
You're right and you're always right! That's beautiful! 
You should learn more about everything.
Intelligence = inter-ligere! Few people do it. Humility can't be when talking with people who don't do it.
Well I totally disagree with what you said. Actually, people can hate what they don't understand, it's the main reason why people hate. I'm not only talking about Mass Effect : for everything in life, you'll notice that misunderstanding leads to hate.
I like the word in english : understand. under-stand. A lower level that imply humility. In all the languages I know, it's the same idea in that word.
Take a look at the forum. Where is the humility? People think they can fix a story that doesn't need to be fixed. People think they can say things because they went to university but they actually don't have real knowledge (they sound to be serious for anyone who doesn't really know, but for anyone who works in writing/reading, the "serious one" on the forum are just jokes). They think they know better than the writers what Mass Effect is about. All of these attitude are just pretentious.
So no, these people didn't understand, Bioware is right and they aren't the only one who think that.
I've published things on Mass Effect, the analysis I've made are far more serious than anything on the forum, and they went further than anything I've read on the forum. But in the end, I think there still a lot for me to understand.
Misunderstand is not understanding. I understand the endings perfectly well. Or as well as anyone who has played the game can be. I've read every interview I can on it (for and against) I've watched the permutations on youtube. I've even familiarized myselof with the Twitter-canon.
I have all the information before me I can accumulate without planting a bug in the writer's pit.
I hate the endings. And I am not alone. I'm not so sure the story needs to be fixed, because I'm uncertain it can be fixed. It can only be made "less bad"
You can be as pretentious as you like about how you have written about Mass Effect and therefore your opinion is more valid than mine. I don't need to write anything, I played the game, that's all the validity I need.
The problem with the endings is that the writers came up with them late in the development of the final game. And they weren't just endings, but an explanation for the reason behind what was going on. That's not when you should be developing your explanation. They needed to at least have a rough idea about it back in ME1. All the stuff that Starbrat exposits about should have been covered in dialogue from Sovereign way back in the first game. That would have given Shepard a chance to have a more meangingful dialogue and to make the kind of counter-arguments we wanted to hear in the Starbrat conversation, instead of him just standing there and nodding his head dumbly while all that manure was shoveled onto him. By the time Shepard gets to the Crucible he should aready know the purpose of the Reapers, and it should have been him calling the shots and not Starbrat. The Crucible is docked and armed, he's won. Now it's his choice what to do based on the way you've played him, not based on what the Deus Ex Machina wants. That's ultimately what irked players, that throughout the entire game events are impacted by your decisions as Shepard, but in the end it's really driven by choices hand-picked by an NPC.
What bothers me most about ME3, isn't the ending, but how Shepard no longer feels like "my character".
P.S. That, and the fact that Cerberus occupies 60% of the fricken game. Cerberus should have been nothing more than a sideshow. Bioware couldn't at the very least allow us to see Cerberus and the Reapers fighting other.
There is absolutely nothing special about this cycle. The special ones were the Protheans, they made it all possible with their beacons, sabotaging the Keepers and Vigil. Without all that the Reapers would have arrived a thousand years before Shepard was even born and already completed their harvest.
Well, there is a running theme that the greatest strength of this cycle is "unity with diversity". But you're right, of course...this cycle only stood a chance because the Protheans prevented the Keepers from activating the Citadel Relay.
Well, there is a running theme that the greatest strength of this cycle is "unity with diversity". But you're right, of course...this cycle only stood a chance because the Protheans prevented the Keepers from activating the Citadel Relay.
it seemed like a natural extension of the "each cycle adds to the Crucible" idea.
The cycles may seem to be all alike, but each cycle gets gradually more powerful/lucky, culminating with the Protheans being able to stop the signal (obligatory Firefly, "can't stop the signal")
I'm curious to know what our cycle added the crucible.
At least the Protheans knew that the Citadel was needed, so how did races who didn't know that fact intend to use the Crucible. If they did know then how did they intend to get it to the Citadel without the use of the Mass Relays.
Every time I take a proper look at the idea of the Crucible I get more convinced that it was a Reaper plant to get races to waste resources on it instead of better weaponsand shields, or ways to hide.
To me it is the only way it makes any sense.
Protheans built it but never managed to get it to the Citadel. It was activated by the keepers in their cycle and they never had a chance to get there. By the time they learned about Citadel they had already lost too many people to even think of assaulting the Citadel like we do in ME3.
The Crucible
Shepard: Who designed it?
Leviathan Turd: You do not know them and there's not enough time to explain it.
Protheans built it but never managed to get it to the Citadel. It was activated by the keepers in their cycle and they never had a chance to get there. By the time they learned about Citadel they had already lost too many people to even think of assaulting the Citadel like we do in ME3.
If they weren't sabotaged from within, who knows what would've happened?
I'm curious to know what our cycle added the crucible.
At least the Protheans knew that the Citadel was needed, so how did races who didn't know that fact intend to use the Crucible. If they did know then how did they intend to get it to the Citadel without the use of the Mass Relays.
Every time I take a proper look at the idea of the Crucible I get more convinced that it was a Reaper plant to get races to waste resources on it instead of better weaponsand shields, or ways to hide.
To me it is the only way it makes any sense.
I try not to think about it. The Crucible is one of those devices that makes no sense on the surface and only gets worse when you look deeper. I understand the need for a somewhat contrived giant space cannon, but the Crucible? It's like the writers went out of their way to make it make it as goofy as possible.
The idea that the Crucible was some sort of trap created by the Reapers was what I thought the big twist was, at least before the ending. In the story it almost has the perfect set-up for that kind of revelation.
If they weren't sabotaged from within, who knows what would've happened?
True. I believe our cycle is special because of the Protheans. They gave us warnings and finished Crucible schematics, we just worked off those. They were the closest to defeating the Reapers, we just finish what they've started
If they weren't sabotaged from within, who knows what would've happened?
True. I believe our cycle is special because of the Protheans. They gave us warnings and finished Crucible schematics, we just worked off those. They were the closest to defeating the Reapers, we just finish what they've started
The point still stands though of how they intended to get it to the Citadel. They didn't have use of the Mass Relays so would have had to move it at standard FTL. Would they be able to raise a fleet large enough to defend it since communication across the empire was crippled.
Hell would they even be able to dock? The Citadel would likely have still been in the Serpent Nebula and all turtled up, no handy beam to get someone inside.
Still at least the Protheans had the foresight to start creating hibernation bunkers to hide from the Reapers, they didn't throw everything into the Crucible. I saw nothing like that for this cycle.
The point still stands though of how they intended to get it to the Citadel. They didn't have use of the Mass Relays so would have had to move it at standard FTL. Would they be able to raise a fleet large enough to defend it since communication across the empire was crippled.
Hell would they even be able to dock? The Citadel would likely have still been in the Serpent Nebula and all turtled up, no handy beam to get someone inside.
Still at least the Protheans had the foresight to start creating hibernation bunkers to hide from the Reapers, they didn't throw everything into the Crucible. I saw nothing like that for this cycle.
I believe the relay monument on the Presidium is made by the Protheans. I can't see Reapers needing such a backdoor.
And I think they abandoned the plan once they learned about the Catalyst. After that they simply went for hibernation bunkers, giving up on winning in that cycle.
I'd forgotten about the relay monument if I am honest but at the same time, how do they go to Illos without the relay network and co-ordinate people going through to unlock the arms without being able to communicate?
Also they believed the Catalyst to be the Citadel, they already knew about what they thought the Catalyst was.
I'd forgotten about the relay monument if I am honest but at the same time, how do they go to Illos without the relay network and co-ordinate people going through to unlock the arms without being able to communicate?
Also they believed the Catalyst to be the Citadel, they already knew about what they thought the Catalyst was.
I don't think all the communication was cut. In ME3 we have quantum entanglement communicators, Protheans might have something similar. Also, scientists on Eden Prime mention that the beacon was a part of galactic communication network and there were at least two active (so there might've been more).
I always got the impression that the Protheans were building it and then abandoned the construction at some point due to finding out what the Catalyst was. After that they uploaded the information to Thessia beacon (probably others as well) and went with the hibernation plan.
What bothers me is all the mountain climbing that is done when driving the Mako looking for resources. Some of those were a pain in the neck. Of course looking for resources is optional.
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