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[The Baconer]

So... *late-story spoilers*

 

Spoiler

Caronel is an arcane warrior.

 

Man, mages be runnin' **** all up in this book.

[Killdren88]

Please Bioware? Books on Audible? I wanna read it now! But not so much a fan with tree chomping.

[Hellion Rex]

So... *late-story spoilers*

 

Spoiler

Caronel is an arcane warrior.

 

Man, mages be runnin' **** all up in this book.

Wow, I'm an idiot lol. For some reason I thought he was a warrior initially, then there was mention of him casting spells, so I got really confused. I suppose that makes A LOT more sense.

[The Baconer]

Wow, I'm an idiot lol. For some reason I thought he was a warrior initially, then there was mention of him casting spells, so I got really confused. I suppose that makes A LOT more sense.

 

Spoiler

At first I thought Sekah was buffing him, but after "shimmering shield" was literally used as a phrase I was all AWW YEAAAH

[themageguy]

So... *late-story spoilers*

Spoiler

Caronel is an arcane warrior.

Man, mages be runnin' **** all up in this book.

i know right? How awesome !!!!

[themageguy]

After reading this I really respect mages who can control themselves and never give in to the dangers of spirits.

[PunchySporkk]

Yeah, the constant whispering of demons was actually pretty unsettling.  I found myself wishing they could implement that in game but wondering how they would do so without it being hugely annoying after tens of hours.  

 

Is this the spoilertastic spoiler thread?  I have a burning need to talk about the ending and how it's going to affect DAI (if at all).

[SilentK]

There was only one other book that concerned the Grey Wardens, "The Calling", and I clearly remember that all classes had the opportunity to "show off".
I think this author is just biased, nearly every fight scene so far featured little beyond mages. There was even an instance where she made sure to remark how there were two dwarven Grey Wardens around and they did nothing.

Hmm. You mostly fight ranged from a griffon. Someone lightweight who fights with ranged dps so mages or archers. This isn't up in your face tanking like the female templar when they got to the caves in the end. Think that is one of the reasons for the abundance of mages in the book =)

[Rel Fexive]

Great book, enjoyed it muchly.  Plus some feels are always good.

 

I guess the Wardens (of old, at least) really will do anything to stop a Blight.  That's basically why they exist, after all.

 

Now, going back to some earlier posts as I've been playing catch-up...  Other things have been covered sufficiently that I won't bring them back up again.

 

@Xilizhra:  Demonic possession is rare?  Have you even read the books or played the games Xilizhra? 

By all means, headcanon away - but demonic possession is not "rare".  

 

Outside of (1) the abomination-fest in the Broken Circle plot of Origins, and (2) all the craziness caused by the thinness of the veil in Kirkwall in DA2, I suspect that demonic possession is a problem that rarely occurs and certainly not as often as the Chantry/templars might say it does (or potentially could).  It's hard to know, though, as we don't see any other Circles (or other communities of mages) in the games - only the ones in need of a game protagonist to solve their problems for them.

 

I mean, if that kind of thing really did happen a lot and was going on in Circles all over Thedas every other week/month/year/whatever then anyone with magic would be killed on sight for being too dangerous and there wouldn't be  any mages.  That doesn't happen, so we can conclude that the risk exists but happens sufficiently infrequently (or is stopped by templars early enough) that such possession can be called rare.

 

I hope its the former or atleast that he is an equal ally.

 

I don't want Cory to become just another pawn for the Elder One.

 

Far more likely that 'Cory' IS the Elder One... isn't it?

 

 

 

...Anyone else find the Chamberlain vaguely similar to Larius?

[HiroVoid]

Cory being the elder one would be one of the biggest letdowns ever.

 

Edit: Most likely, he's just the final boss of the Grey Warden part of the storyline.

[Steelcan]

This book seems like a long "see how awesome mages are"

[Rel Fexive]

It seems obvious... which is probably why it isn't him.

 

This book seems like a long "see how awesome mages are"

 

"...and how they can really, really screw things up when they don't entirely know what they're doing, but manage to help save the world anyway."

[HiroVoid]

So... *late-story spoilers*

 

Spoiler

Caronel is an arcane warrior.

 

Man, mages be runnin' **** all up in this book.

Wait.  I thought arcane warrior was a long-dead specialization that we only learned from an elf in a crystal.

[Steelcan]

Wait.  I thought arcane warrior was a long-dead specialization that we only learned from an elf in a crystal.

lore consistency?! In a BioWare setting?

 

[HiroVoid]

I guess technically, he could have just been a mage who knows martial skills....then again, he also apparently used "shimmering shield".

[Br3admax]

This book seems like a long "see how awesome mages are"

Like we weren't before?

[The Baconer]

Wait.  I thought arcane warrior was a long-dead specialization that we only learned from an elf in a crystal.

 

Maybe, maybe not. One of the multiplayer classes is called "Arcane Warrior" (even though his concept art implies he's a robe-wearing, staff-twirling fop), and there is the Knight Enchanter spec that will appear in DA:I. 

 

You could say that while some of the techniques and traditions of the elven Arcane Warriors might be dead, the practice of using magic to enhance one's prowess in martial combat is not.

[AresKeith]

Wait.  I thought arcane warrior was a long-dead specialization that we only learned from an elf in a crystal.

 

Tevinter has Arcane Warriors, so it's not that dead 

[Drasanil]

Tevinter has Arcane Warriors, so it's not that dead 

 

There was also an elven arcane warrior in the off the books provings in Orzammar. I'm guessing they're fairly rare nowadays, which is why we learned the spec the way we did, but not completely lost. 

[MisterJB]

Finished it.

 

This book seems like a long "see how awesome mages are"

 

I know! 99% of character in it seem to be mages without any necessity.

 

At any rate, it wasn't a bad book by any means; I expecially liked the plot about the griffons but dear Maker, the fight scenes were repetitive. Fire, ice, repeat. I lost count of how many times the author wrote about the Darkspawn's black blood (it isn't black, BTW) was frozen by one of Calien's spells.

 

Still, I would have liked to see way more of Garahel and the Fourth Blight plus I expected something more..."sinister".

The Wardens sacrificing a great number of Griffons was upsetting and illustrated their ruthlessness but not as much as other plots could have. After all, they didn't intentionally and knowingly sacrificed them, they just blundered and acidentally killed the entire species. Oops.

 

In comparison, I think the decision to burn Amaranthine worked better to show just how far the Wardens will go.
 

[Hellion Rex]

Yay blood magic!

[MisterJB]

Blood magic. It leads to extinction.

[HiroVoid]

Blood magic. It leads to extinction.

[MisterJB]

Hmm. You mostly fight ranged from a griffon. Someone lightweight who fights with ranged dps so mages or archers. This isn't up in your face tanking like the female templar when they got to the caves in the end. Think that is one of the reasons for the abundance of mages in the book =)

All true but one could easily rewrite many scenes to include other classes. For instance, Garahel, the man who killed the Archdemon, has a bow and yet he rarely features in a combat scene. Another way would be to have Andoral's army include smaller dragons, like Urthemiel's did and have Warriors riding griffons into close quarters to deliver a killing blow.

Or have Garahel lead a charge to  clear the path for Starhaven's refugees. Maybe describe army movements a bit.

 

Anything but more fire and ice spells. This book features more mage action than "Asunder" which actually was about mages.

[The Baconer]

Yay blood magic!

 

We need to learn more. I want Avernus doing at least 50% more science.

 

I suggest we move the venue to Rivain. More bodies to meet higher demand, and chance to test blood magic (and the Taint) on Qunari physiology. People won't miss them or their converts... Less questions. Better that way.