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[Willowhugger]

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I wouldn't say it goes against previous lore, but it does really hammer the fact that blood magic is extremely dangerous, risky for the mage performing it, and tends to have unforseen consequences due to the fact that humanity doesn't fully understand it.

The games just make blood magic look super powerful with no down side. Last Flight shows us that there are consequences to its use.

 

I think Uldred undermines the idea the games don't show the consequences of causal Blood Magic use.

[sandalisthemaker]

I think Uldred undermines the idea the games don't show the consequences of causal Blood Magic use.

 

True, but Uldred is clearly a 'bad guy.'

 

Bloodmage Warden and Bloodmage Hawke can use it willy nilly.

 

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Isseya is proof that not even the good guys are immune.

[Damate]

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A major theme of the book is that often good people will do ruthless things in order to accomplish what they believe is right.

Even if it means sacrificing those that have no say in the matter.

The consequences of those actions are much more costly than Isseya could have ever imagined.

Oh man, this all sounds fabulous! I'm a little heartbroken because Grey Wardens are real high on my top most loves of DA lore and yet I won't be able to get the book until the holidays! Gah!

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I'm the sort that reads the end of a book ahead if time because anticipation kills me, lol. I still read it all through, it just soothes my anxiety to know! Any chance you'd elaborate on these ultimate consequences? I'd gladly take a PM if you don't want to Floki out spoil here!!

Thanks so much for sharing!!!

[Willowhugger]

True, but Uldred is clearly a 'bad guy.'

 

Bloodmage Warden and Bloodmage Hawke can use it willy nilly.

 

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Isseya is proof that not even the good guys are immune.

Well, I think Broken Circle is sympathetic to the mages rebelling with Blood Magic.

The thing was, the Blood Magic didn't destroy the Circle because the Blood Mages were evil.

The Blood Magic destroyed the tower because it *****ed up the Fade and they lost control over it.

It's a revolt which ended up accidentally summoning Gozer.

 

No one was trying to make the place resemble Resident Evil. It just did.

 

Plus, Connor isn't proof of how "mages" per say are bad but how *****y a teacher Jowan was since his books summoned the demon which destroyed Redcliffe.

Still, yeah, Blood Magic never backfires on the Hawke or Warden.

[AresKeith]

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I wouldn't say it goes against previous lore, but it does really hammer the fact that blood magic is extremely dangerous, risky for the mage performing it, and tends to have unforseen consequences due to the fact that humanity doesn't fully understand it.

The games just make blood magic look super powerful with no down side. Last Flight shows us that there are consequences to its use.

 

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It's good that it does

[ladyofpayne]

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Nathaniel really dies?

[Willowhugger]

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Nathaniel really dies?

 

He's not in the book.

[The Elder King]

Gaider already addressed on tumblr when asked that the games (expecially for the protagonist) don't show well the danger of magic in general, so it's good that the books shown this, even for normal spellcasting (though Wynne did talk a bit about the danger of magic in DAO).
Plus, I do recall that it was said already that blood magic makes the used more vulnerable to demons. Now we just know how more vulnerable they are.

[LobselVith8]

So Merrill abomination for DAI confirmed?

 

Merrill spent several years as a blood mage without becoming an abomination. Sorry to disappoint you. 

[Willowhugger]

Merrill spent several years as a blood mage without becoming an abomination. Sorry to disappoint you. 

 

Honestly, this doesn't seem any more dangerous to me than before.

[The Elder King]

Honestly, this doesn't seem any more dangerous to me than before.

I agree, though I always considered blood magic to be very dangerous.

[Hellion Rex]

Just finished. Goddamn, the Wardens of old really f'ed it up.

[The Elder King]

Merrill spent several years as a blood mage without becoming an abomination. Sorry to disappoint you.

While I doubt that they'll go that route for Merrill, the fact that one was blood magic for years doesn't mean he/she'll be safe in the future.
Though in regards of Merrill I do recall that Laidlaw said that having Merrill keeping the mirror might've been a bad move for the future.

[veeia]

Intense book. I really liked it. And made me pretty excited about its possible ramifications in the game  

[LobselVith8]

While I doubt that they'll go that route for Merrill, the fact that one was blood magic for years doesn't mean he/she'll be safe in the future.

 

It doesn't mean a blood mage becomes an abomination by default, either.

 

Though in regards of Merrill I do recall that Laidlaw said that having Merrill keeping the mirror might've been a bad move for the future.

 

Laidlaw could have been referring to Marethari's demise. As for the reconstruction, Merrill abandons working on the Eluvian in Act III after the Keeper's death; if she's in a romance with the Champion and Meredith was opposed, she leaves Kirkwall with him and stays at his side. I could see it come up if Merrill shares her expertise on the Eluvians (since she researched the lore and extrapolated information from the shard), but TME leaves me with the impression that Merrill was right about the usefulness of the Eluvians.

[Hellion Rex]

Good grief, the First Warden was an jerk during the 4th Blight. I really felt for Isseya.

[Hellion Rex]

Although, I do think we get a very, very brief mention of something manipulating the Wardens, something that had absolutely no mention in the story except during the beginning.

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The Wardens task the new mage recruits to go through old accounts and histories, trying to figure out if someone had been manipulating members of the order with blood magic over the past several centuries.

 

[veeia]

I felt sorry for everyone. This book really drove in hard how horrible the Blights were....just year after year after year of endless battles and death and hard choices and like, dang. Dragon Age era Fereldan is super lucky our Warden was so awesome and ended the Blight so quickly, lol. 

 

 

Although, I do think we get a very, very brief mention of something manipulating the Wardens, something that had absolutely no mention in the story except during the beginning.

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The Wardens task the new mage recruits to go through old accounts and histories, trying to figure out if someone had been manipulating members of the order with blood magic over the past several centuries.

 

 

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I also found that very intriguing! The frame narrative, while interesting, was much more scattered than the historical narrative  So it's hard for me to tell if missed something, if it will come into play later, or if that was just the excuse for the historical narrative to exist and didn't mean more than that. I'm very very interested in how the GW will play into the next game now.

[The Elder King]

It doesn't mean a blood mage becomes an abomination by default, either.

I agree. My point was that both your points weren't indications of what will happen to Merrill.
 

Laidlaw could have been referring to Marethari's demise. As for the reconstruction, Merrill abandons working on the Eluvian in Act III after the Keeper's death; if she's in a romance with the Champion and Meredith was opposed, she leaves Kirkwall with him and stays at his side. I could see it come up if Merrill shares her expertise on the Eluvians (since she researched the lore and extrapolated information from the shard), but TME leaves me with the impression that Merrill was right about the usefulness of the Eluvians.

You could be right, but i think he was referring to the outcome of keeping versus breaking it. We'll see in the future games what will happen.
I wasn't debating about the usefulness of the Eluvians and if Merrill was right or wrong in researching them, but that the last choice might've an effect on her, possibly negative if she keeps it. Why, I don't know. He was very vague about it, and he might've meant something else, as you suggested.

[Hellion Rex]

Also, given the lack of mentioning the Breach, it seems DAI is occurring in 9:42 Dragon now.

[themageguy]

So after reading these dangers of magic....maybe i should become ... TheTemplarGuy

But seriously, although i don't agree with all aspects of the circle system, Templars really are needed to not just keep non mages safe, but the mages themselves safe.

Prior novels and even the games never described just what mages go through using their gift.

[Sasie]

I wish we would have had more time with the Warden's in Origins. Instead the majority of our information on the wardens and what they are like came from Alistair who can in retrospect be said to have been a bit dellusional about the whole thing. Would been great if we seen more of the 4th blight situations in our own blight and the extreme actions it made people take.

[The Ascendant]

So not only is my Amell Warden haunted by the Archdemon, but is constantly pestered by demons every time he uses blood magic? I guess that Pride Demon was right, true tests never end. Still the power is worth it. If I am going to die, might as well become a pride abomination like Uldred and kill as many Templars as I can.
Yes, I make a deal with a greater Pride Demon and become an unstoppable magical monster. Much better than becoming a ghoul. Blood Mage Warden has a rough deal.

[Quatre]

I don't know whether this has been addressed before, but ... how could Garahel have seduced a Qunari in 5:12 Exalted? As far as we know, those guys did not arrive in Thedas before 6:30 Steel (ignoring the Kossith that settled in the Korcari Wilds ages ago).

[The Elder King]

So not only is my Amell Warden haunted by the Archdemon, but is constantly pestered by demons every time he uses blood magic? I guess that Pride Demon was right, true tests never end. Still the power is worth it. If I am going to die, might as well become a pride abomination like Uldred and kill as many Templars as I can.
Yes, I make a deal with a greater Pride Demon and become an unstoppable magical monster. Much better than becoming a ghoul. Blood Mage Warden has a rough deal.

Yup, if demon possession works as well as spirit possession, when Justice took control of Anders, it'll be really fun to be an abominations . You'll be basicall trapped in your own body, unable to do anything (and I very much doubt you'll just kill templars).
Honestly, death is a much better choice.